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forgotmypassagain · 23/07/2024 10:44

I want to preface this with saying at this juncture I have not uttered a word.

Through my DDs I am friendly with one of the school mums (sit with her at parties, message about the kids, take them to soft play together).
She’s recently set up a business…let’s call it The Happy Faces but on all her promotional things she’s put an apostrophe in faces so the the business is called “The Happy Face’s”…

I suppose I’m asking if anyone would point this out to her? The type of business it is lends itself to correct grammar, punctuation and spelling. Mine is by no means perfect btw and I’m asking more from the point of view that she is absolutely lovely and i would like to see her succeed and wouldn’t want people to be put off the business by incorrect punctuation in the business name.

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UKposter · 23/07/2024 14:26

ranchdressing · 23/07/2024 10:53

You have to shit sandwich it!

Hey friend,
Your website/leaflet/instagram page looks so fantastic! Excited for you.
Did you notice a small typo? It should be faces not face's! Just thought I'd point it out in case you hadn't seen! Autocorrect is always adding them in for me uneccesarily...
Hope everything is going well with it

I’ve heard it called a feedback sandwich before but this term is better!
Do this …

CompleteOvaryAction · 23/07/2024 14:25

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So mortifying to receive your feedback in writing.

ByFlakyHazelTiger · 23/07/2024 14:24

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CompleteOvaryAction · 23/07/2024 14:21

You have to tell her to her face, not in writing.
I have two FB friends (old school friends - no longer really in touch, other than FB). Both have recently self-published books with SPAG howlers in the titles. I cannot bring myself to tell them because (a) In one case, I don't know if it is intentional - it could be a bad pun and (b) I know I will come across as a know-it-all, and pop their balloons.
I think if I saw them face to face I would say something, as you can be softer, and more reassuring. You can't make corrections like that kindly in writing.

Thepeopleversuswork · 23/07/2024 14:18

@PerkyMintDeer

That’s all good and well if we’re talking about a WhatsApp thread or a Facebook post. SPAG errors are two a penny and you would have to be a bit of an arsehole to mither someone about this.

It’s a completely different matter when it’s someone’s business and she stands to lose money as a result.

PerkyMintDeer · 23/07/2024 14:09

I'm going to go against the grain and say just leave it.

Have you seen how people react to corrections on here?!

At the end of the day, especially if this is only the tip of the iceberg with SPAG, she has to take responsibility for her business, not you. If it puts people off, then that's on her. If "face's" was the only mistake, that would perhaps be worth mentioning. You've suggested, however, that there are wider problems with her written English and that would end needing a heck of a lot of corrections from you and work on her behalf to get it right.

Correcting her on a frequent basis could cost you the pleasant relationship that you currently have. It may not be worth risking that.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 23/07/2024 14:04

That would wind me up so much! I'd tell her

Moondust · 23/07/2024 13:59

I'd be tempted to say something like "I was talking to my mum/sister/friend about your new business and she pointed out there's a typo in the name..." Bit of a cop out but it helps you both save face!

Thepeopleversuswork · 23/07/2024 13:55

Just tell her. It’s something which could hurt her financially. You would tell her if you thought she was putting herself at risk of being scammed.

I wouldn’t waste time pussyfooting around it. If she doesn’t immediately recognise that you’re trying to help her she’s being an idiot.

FalderalderaldoSittingintheWater · 23/07/2024 13:55

UpThereForThinkingDownThereForDancing · 23/07/2024 13:52

Not a satisfactory explanation. Ok. Fine. 🤣

They're friendly acquaintances not friends, allowing such people to save face is just a tactful way of saving someone from themselves without causing them embarrassment which might make those incidental social occasions awkward for both parties.
With a friend it is easier to gauge how offended/upset they might be by having a mistake pointed out, also easier for a friend not to mind if someone they know cares about them deeply points it out.

Or op could not bother, but it's her business name so could really matter so she is trying to walk a fine line.

Thank you!
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oakleaffy · 23/07/2024 13:53

Kta7 · 23/07/2024 10:52

All businesses or just one where that sort of attention to detail is required?

I know a superb craft tradesman who has dyslexia and his spelling can be a little awry, but his work is fabulous- But he knows about such things and does check spellings- something like ''Happy Face's'' really is so glaringly off that I'd definitely warn her that the ''Printer's made a misteak'' 🎯

UpThereForThinkingDownThereForDancing · 23/07/2024 13:52

FalderalderaldoSittingintheWater · 23/07/2024 13:16

Not a satisfactory explanation. If you cannot be totally honest with your friends, why be friends with them?

Not a satisfactory explanation. Ok. Fine. 🤣

They're friendly acquaintances not friends, allowing such people to save face is just a tactful way of saving someone from themselves without causing them embarrassment which might make those incidental social occasions awkward for both parties.
With a friend it is easier to gauge how offended/upset they might be by having a mistake pointed out, also easier for a friend not to mind if someone they know cares about them deeply points it out.

Or op could not bother, but it's her business name so could really matter so she is trying to walk a fine line.

Rightsraptor · 23/07/2024 13:49

WhodoVoodoo · 23/07/2024 13:12

I know someone with a misspelled tattoo. I have kept schtum about that one. However, in this case, I would have to say something.

Didn't someone get 'Kelly Homes' tattooed on herself, not realising the surname is spelt 'Holmes'? It was in the papers at the time - maybe it was the 2012 Olympic Games

ScribblingPixie · 23/07/2024 13:49

Tons of errors? Don't say a thing. She surely has closer friends & family who will tell her.

Rightsraptor · 23/07/2024 13:46

It's customary to only use a possessive apostrophe with the last name in a list.

So, if Laura and Jane have a card shop together, it becomes Laura and Jane's card shop.

I don't know when this started but I can imagine how cluttered a sentence could become - Grandma's, Grandpa's, Uncle Joe's and Auntie Sophie's house. Just - messy.

I think we're seeing more punctuation errors because we can now print our own materials, so there's less checking going on. I'm surprised, though, when I see a proper shop sign that someone has paid good money for and it has a mistake in it. I always wonder if the sign writer and client had a battle about it and the customer, always being right, won.

RafaFan · 23/07/2024 13:41

AttackMeleys · 23/07/2024 11:16

I wouldn't avoid a business with occasional dodgy SPAG in their website blurb, but I'd find it hard to have faith in them if they can't even get their own name right. This is not an informal text message, or a wittering post on mn, this is the published face of your business - it's supposed to show your best side! And if you can't even get that right....

My current suppressed irritation is about emails from primary school. You know, the people who are supposed to teach children how to read and write. Occasional mistakes wouldn't be noticeable or if I did notice I wouldn't care. But I think someone massively over-ordered apostrophes at the beginning of the year and they are determined to get rid of them so scatter them liberally throughout every communication 😆 That, and the fact there are frequently amendments sent out (then amendments to the amendments) to correct emails and info they have already sent is starting to really annoy me. I'm not perfect and I'm sure this post is riddled with typos and inelegant wording - but it is informal, I would never send out the kind of crap they send in a professional capacity from a school. I know I shouldn't say it, but I've said it to you lot, and I wouldn't say it to them. But yeah. Thanks I feel better for that!

I have corrected spelling, punctuation and grammar in school newsletters with a red pen more than once. So far I've resisted sending the corrections back in with my children. Recently they misspelt my son's surname on his graduation certificate. 😬

LBFseBrom · 23/07/2024 13:39

Do please tell her, it's important that she presents herself to the public correctly. Some people would be instantly turned off by that. Make a joke about greengrocers :-).

Jezabelle85 · 23/07/2024 13:39

As it’s someone you like and you are saying it from a place of kindness, I think you should point it out.
I think it’s only as awkward as you make it.

I would just say something like ‘Hey, just wanted to let you know I noticed a little typo on your promo bits and bobs.
I know how precious some people can be about spelling and grammar, so thought I’d mentioned it.
The designs looks great. So excited for you!’

Screamingabdabz · 23/07/2024 13:34

I saw a high end six figured salary job in Dubai advertised with an error like this yesterday - something like, “our clients headquarter’s are based in…” 🤦🏻‍♀️

It just signals a lack of professionalism. I would definitely tell her, and I don’t see any need to sugar coat it too much either. A good standard of written english is a pretty basic requirement in business - you’ll be doing her a huge favour.

Waitingfordoggo · 23/07/2024 13:33

Preferably not a Nazi of any type @ByFlakyHazelTiger. Just someone who is good at spelling and grammar.

thestepmumspacepodcast · 23/07/2024 13:33

Sunshineafterthehail · 23/07/2024 10:59

One of the dm's at our school has a business with a shop. .
Laura & Janes card shop.
*not real names..
Surely Laura & Jane's?

forget the grammar... what a bloomin boring name!!

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BellesAndGraces · 23/07/2024 13:29

Kurokurosuke · 23/07/2024 11:28

Because it is their joint card shop. The card shop belonging to Laura and Jane.

If Laura and Jane both had a card shop each, then Laura's and Jane's card shops.

I would naturally have written “Laura and Jane’s card shop” without being able to explain why. Thank you for the explanation!

Misthios · 23/07/2024 13:29

Can anyone explain what the thinking is that makes people add superfluous apostrophes sometimes but not others?

I think it's because most people are aware that apostrophes are a thing, and probably remember being taught about possessives and contractions when they were about 8. But they have forgotten the detail of what they were taught, and only remember that apostrophes are usually found in words ending in S. So you get apple's, orange's and that sort of thing. My favourite example was uni advertising a "foreign student's social evening". Not much of a social if the foreign student was there all on their own.

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