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To ask you to choose which coffee machine (for someone who hates coffee!) and how to force myself to love coffee as top drs have told me I HAVE to drink it and lots of it

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CocoBellaSparkle · 23/07/2024 04:43

Dear MN’s,

I’ve been telling myself to not NC .. (years ago I did a lot ) but I’d rather just be ‘me’ so on that note .. some may have briefly seen/noticed that I’ve got a very bleak outcome .. very later stage ‘C’ caught unfortunately too late and it’s spread and no cure and removal / transplant / chemo will be fatal .. so untreatable and no cure

Anyway got that annoying little bit said and out of the way 😄 sooo my top Doctors/Specialists/ Nurses have all said that for my particular illness (annoyingly would have been better advice in the very early days now it’s more ‘the horse has very much bolted off ..) but nothing to lose in still trying this - coffee is THE healthiest thing people on my shoes can consume for this type of cancer

I DETEST coffee and always have .. i’ve had about 3 or four cups in my whole life .. and those ones not only tasted awful but gave me the shakes , worst migraine and sickness and bad tummy

Genuine question MN’s - can you (or have any of you) hated coffee and made yourself fall in love with it or even tolerated it ?

I love the idea of being a NORMAL person (cause i’m fully aware i’m the abnormal one as everyone loves coffee I believe) and to love coffee and to meet friends for coffee , to appreciate a nice mug of coffee, to have that ‘coffee kick ‘ in the mornings, to enjoy coffee from independent small family owned coffee houses to discover different coffees etc

And now my cancer doctors and nurses are telling me it will only be a good thing for me to drink the stuff so thought would ask you which coffee machines you have ?

i ask as hospital say the instant stuff isn’t really the ‘best’

I love the idea of the touch screen machines BUT they’re crazy expensive (especially for a now single mother , very poorly so had to give up my amazing career and living off savings which has trickled like water AND uber pricey for a coffee HATER 😄)

Now I know (or think ) that the machines that are coffee beans to cup are the best and the pod machines are frowned upon (especially with those who know and love their coffee!)
but I have two boys too and they hate coffee .. so do you think a pod one would be best ?

I’ve had a tassimo in the past (mainly for hot chocolate for my then very little boys and sometimes myself )

My budget is ideally not over £250 (i’ve just moved and finished furnishing my apartment and now I think i need to rob a bank just to live 😄) and have been looking into
Tassimo
Lavazza
L’Or
Nespresso

Plus bonus points - cream coloured /retro look
easy to use (not a faff)
milk frother (don’t think these come with pod machines though - i could be wrong ..,)
also to have pods that have different choices of coffees so maybe I could (force myself ) to actually like a type of coffee ☕️

Also a machine with pods and/or the machine itself that can make a lovejy hot chocolate
pods that include mocha’s/ cappuccino etc

thank you (if you’ve got this far!) for reading and I’m ready to order a machine asap just thought would ask for any pointers

thank you - CocoBella :)

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imip · 23/07/2024 08:30

I use an aeropress and really like it, but I like coffee!

You could try a dirty chai? Chai latte with coffee, bit like a mocha (hot chocolate and coffee). You could try them out and if you like it try replicating at home?

Otherwise, I would focus on espresso. You’d get your coffee in a concentrated shot - a bit like a medicine!

Grind have a machine that might suit your environmental requirements. I have switched to their coffee recently, used to get an independant brand. Seems to work better in the aeropress. I froth milk with a lavazza milk frother - oat milk due to my high cholesterol.

all the best!

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 23/07/2024 08:28

Summerhillsquare · 23/07/2024 08:22

Disappointed my comment was deleted, presumably after reporting by the alternative health brigade. Even the weblinks shared show very weak associations, "may be" beneficial and so on. This is giving people false hope.

The OP has been very clear about her prognosis and also that this approach has been medically suggested.

What has she got to lose by trying?

Why are you trying to make this thread about you?

XiCi · 23/07/2024 08:27

YouJustDoYou · 23/07/2024 08:11

I mean, can you not consume other caffeine products?

It's not the caffeine in the coffee thats beneficial. It's kahweol and cafestol, 2 chemical compounds found in coffee beans. Decaffeinated and instant also have protective effects on the liver - just in case you're running out to buy cans of monster thinking it's good for your liver 😊

Blisterly · 23/07/2024 08:26

I would get something quick and easy. If you don’t like coffee don’t waste your money. Drink an espresso shot and have a juice chaser. You don’t want to be faffing with a cafetière just for a quick shot. You can buy refillable pods if you don’t want the waste associated with an nespresso machine.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 23/07/2024 08:24

I would try an aero press. The coffee will taste less harsh than some other methods. It’s environmentally friendly as the waste is a puck of coffee and a filter paper.

Try different coffee varieties. I generally like Colombian coffee as I find it smoother and more rounded.

Summerhillsquare · 23/07/2024 08:22

Disappointed my comment was deleted, presumably after reporting by the alternative health brigade. Even the weblinks shared show very weak associations, "may be" beneficial and so on. This is giving people false hope.

qwertyasdfgzxcv · 23/07/2024 08:22

Get a bean to cup magi one and if you have it with lots of milk it's quite nice.

NewFriendlyLadybird · 23/07/2024 08:22

I am very sorry to hear about your diagnosis.

I’m a coffee addict so not much help on the ‘getting to like coffee’ front, but I wouldn’t bother with pods. I suggest a small cafetière or, even better, a stove-top espresso maker. There’s a ceremony to using those that is intrinsically pleasurable, and espressos are by definition small. You can add sugar, leave it to cool a bit, then down it in one like a shot. Quite authentically Italian, in fact.

FormerlySpeckledyHen · 23/07/2024 08:20

If instant coffee has the same benefits I would simply make a strong shot and neck it like medicine a couple of times a day.
No need to waste money on machines etc.

RosyappleA · 23/07/2024 08:19

I got this recently. Really enjoying it. I buy espresso ground coffee to put in.
I used to detest coffee, even the smell of it when my mum would buy a freshly ground pack from whittard I felt I could smell it all day.
I got used to it though and now love it! Same with green tea, after a week I started craving it. Good luck, really hope you get through this as smoothly as possible.

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Workinghours · 23/07/2024 08:19

I'm not a coffee fan but have two non sleepers so I drink it when needed. For me instant coffee, with caramel syrup in the coffee and squirty cream on top works well. Very sweet but it feels like a proper treat. Getting one of those milk frothers to make it nice and fluffy without spending loads on a fancy machine could help too.

Illbethereforyouuu · 23/07/2024 08:19

Coconutter24 · 23/07/2024 06:45

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis

“I DETEST coffee and always have .. i’ve had about 3 or four cups in my whole life .. and those ones not only tasted awful but gave me the shakes , worst migraine and sickness and bad tummy”

If you are likely to not have long left and it isn’t going to cure you why bother if you detest it so much? What are the benefits the doctors have said you’d get from it, are they good enough to put up with the above symptoms it gave you? You should spend all the time you’ve left however long that is enjoying food and drink not forcing yourself to have something you detest (unless it’s going to cure or add years and years on your life expectancy)

I'm sure the OP is intelligent enough to have already considered all of this. Bit of a shitty comment from you, OP was asking about coffee machines, not whether you think she should just enjoy what time she has left 🤯

Likewhatever · 23/07/2024 08:18

I wasn’t a coffee fan, still hate instant coffee with a passion, but am a real convert to coffee made in an espresso maker on the hob, and topped up with Oatly Barista (grey carton) heated in an electric milk frother. I use ready ground Columbian coffee. All from Lidl.

Of course real bean to cup coffee would be the ideal but do you want all that cleaning?

I’m so sorry to hear about your prognosis. I hope you learn to love coffee if it will help your illness.

HappyWorkingMummy · 23/07/2024 08:18

Sorry about your diagnosis.

How old are your boys?

Does it have to be hot coffee? And are you allowed anything sugary with it or will that exacerbate the cancer?

I ask because I'm not really a coffee fan but give me an iced coffee with a syrup in the summer and I'm happy as Larry. I think it doesn't matter so much about it the quality of the coffee brewing with iced coffees either.

Just a possibility to get you to enjoy them.

LegendInMyOwnLunchtime · 23/07/2024 08:17

OP, I wouldn’t spend ££ on a machine. I am a coffee lover and I use a cafitiere and a stove top espresso maker.

Don’t go for a high roast. Lidl sell bags of ‘Deluxe’ ground coffee and the Colombian in the green bag is smooth and rounded , not bitter.

Ways to drink it: it sounds gross but coffee with evaporated milk in it is good. Rich and creamy but not as calorific or fatty as cream.

Cold Over ice and with evaporated milk is good too.

An espresso tipped over a scoop of vanilla, chocolate or salt caramel ice cream as dessert after lunch?

My espresso maker makes two little cups so I drink one and freeze the rest in an ice cube tray. A cube in a glass of milk… lovely. But then I like coffee.

amoreoamicizia · 23/07/2024 08:17

[Haven't read the thread- I have no appetite for reading an argument about cancer atm] @CocoBellaSparkle I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis and wish you strength going forward.

Try pour over coffee; you can make a fabulous tasting coffee for a relatively small investment compared with buying an expensive machine 😍 It's also super convenient to dump the used coffee filter paper in the compost bin.

I recommend this ceramic dripper and if you phone them they will recommend a filter paper and coffee to order to go with them, too. They are the experts 😀

https://www.monmouthcoffee.co.uk/product/ceramic-filter-cone/

XiCi · 23/07/2024 08:15

I've no idea why people are being so disbelieving of the OP. I've been reading about research into the benefits of coffee on the liver for many years.

I'm sorry about your diagnosis OP. If coffee causes symptoms such as migraine I'd definitely try decaffeinated first. I imagine a migraine and the shakes is the last thing you want when you are already ill! I'd just get a cafetiere until you know whether you can tolerate it.

If you really dislike coffee have you looked at other options? Dandelion tea has long been known to support liver health (though obviously check with your Dr's first) . Have you also looked into taking milk thistle and Liv.52 DS? (But again check with your Dr's).

BubziOwl · 23/07/2024 08:14

Ilovelurchers · 23/07/2024 08:04

If anyone is still questioning the health benefits of coffee on here (not sure anybody is, but still) go on to any liver ward and you will find leaflets and posters aplenty recommending coffees alongside healthy diet, abstinence from alcohol etc.....

OP, instant coffee is just as beneficial as other forms, health wise, and tends to have a blander taste? I would just buy a good instant coffee - one of the "barista" ones in the tins - they are often on offer - and have that. Depending on other dietary recommendations, it will taste blander if you can mix it with full fat milk or even cream, and put some sugar in or maybe flavoured syrups (you can buy some specially for this purpose). Basically disguising the taste as much as you can.

Any "proper" coffee from a machine will taste much more life coffee, IYSWIM, and thus you will like it even less......

Totally agree

I'm ad much of coffee snob as they come but if you don't like coffee then I'd say instant is a good starting point

Less faff for you to make as well. You can also make a really weak cup with eg half a teaspoon of instant and build yourself up to a normal one as you get used to the taste

ZombieBoob · 23/07/2024 08:13

Have you tried things like mochas? Hides the taste of coffee pretty well. Also iced coffee with lots of flavourings in it?

DayOff24 · 23/07/2024 08:12

Can you get used to drinking instant coffee? I don’t like it myself but lots of people drink instant all day in my place of work.

YouJustDoYou · 23/07/2024 08:11

I mean, can you not consume other caffeine products?

Strictlymad · 23/07/2024 08:11

If you hate coffee I suggest making a double shot and topping up with a lot of hot frothy milk- latte type and having a sugar. Get a nespresso vertuo with the aerocino frothed. Join the nespresso club and there’s always loads of offers. So sorry for your diagnosis xx

nothingcomestonothing · 23/07/2024 08:10

CocoBellaSparkle · 23/07/2024 06:03

@NoNoNona thank you! And i agree 😀 as i’ve also been told no salt , ideally no or limited sugar, no take aways , no fried foods, no white flour so no biscuits , slice of cake, cookies, white bread ,
although most of these are what doctors have always said about diet in general (?) and i never have white bread , i don’t eat pizza or pasta , i don’t eat red meat , don’t have fast food .. BUT ive always been a picker like cheese and biscuits and branston pickle - could eat those types of foods all day

and i know it’s so bad but i love salt (even had it on my soup ) if i went to the seaside and everyone had fish and chips .. id rather eat nothing than chips with zero salt .. why do things that taste so good have to be so bad 😫

I'm sorry to hear of your diagnosis OP.

I've worked in oncology for many years and the message as far as food goes has always been 'eat whatever you can fancy'. I've no idea on the coffee side of things but food wise are you able to access a dietician? As aside from a very few drugs which interact with a very few foods ( MSG, pineapple, grapefruit), I've not known patients be told to avoid whole categories of food. Especially in a palliative scenario, patients are encouraged to eat whatever they enjoy. I'd hate to think you were denying yourself foods you enjoy.

All the best

Ilovelurchers · 23/07/2024 08:10

Thegreatgiginthesky · 23/07/2024 06:43

I think there is a Michael Mosely Just One Thing on coffee where he said instant has the same benefits.

The liver specialists I used to see also told me frequently that instant had exactly the same health benefits as more expensive types of coffee.

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