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To be really honest about what I need while he's away

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rodeoson · 22/07/2024 23:32

My partner is in the process of launching a business. We've been together 5 months and spend a lot of time together.

He has to go to India for 6 weeks for various business meetings in early Aug. I am flying out there once in the middle for a week, to see him.

We had dinner last night and he said that he's going to be really tied up while he's there, and that he needed to manage expectations that he won't be in touch as much as usual. He said his schedule of meeting suppliers and clients etc,were going to need to take priority and he'll be quieter than usual. He'll also be staying with his business partner and driving around to different cities with him and I know they'll be very busy. He will of course make time for me while I'm there, although will still be busy with work.

Now, just to clarify, this is absolutely true and there's no element here of me thinking that it's a lie or thinking he's hiding something. I know enough about the plans for the launch to know this is valid, and I trust him implicitly.

It was also said kindly and in a way that indicated he didn't want me to be upset or disappointed at the change in pace of our usual communication. When he said it, he made it very clear that if I had any thoughts of worries about it, we should chat about it.

There are two questions here:

  1. AIBU to be honest that I'd like to find a way to manage it so that I don't feel completely forgotten for 6 weeks, rather than pretending to be totally cool with it?

  2. If yes, what are some suggestions that I could put to him? I don't want to make demands on his time and resources but I am only human and definitely would feel sad to barely hear from him for 6 weeks, vs the multiple times a day we talk now. I don't want to cajole him into contacting me on a schedule under duress, of course, but he's the sort of person who'd be really open to suggestions to make it easier on us both.

Despite how this posts sounds, I'm not particularly needy or insecure but I also don't want to be disingenuous and "pick me", when there's an opportunity to find a good middle ground. Furthermore he's (dare I say...) a typical man so he probably needs to be pointed in the right direction for how to handle it, rather than me just saying it's fine and hoping he'll figure it out.

I'm going to be very tied up myself while he's gone as I work in summer camps for kids, so I won't be waiting by the phone or anything.

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BengalGal · 30/07/2024 18:52

Way too early to worry about it. Say nothing and see how it unfolds. 3 and 2 weeks with one with you is hardly an extensive break. If you say anything it makes you sound insecure and rushing things.

WiddlinDiddlin · 28/07/2024 16:56

I think in your situation, I'd make it clear that just a whatsapp/text most days to let you know he's alive etc, will do.

Be very specific, you're NOT looking for a real-time conversation/phone call... I think when people say 'I haven't got time' they do not mean 'I haven't got time to drop you a Whatsapp saying 'im here, itls hot, how are ya?'

They're saying they don't have time to facetime, have a real-time chat about all sorts, and they're worried a brief whatsapp/text makes the recipient think they are available for that, which will then lead to awkwardness and upset as they're not.

Multiplemum123 · 28/07/2024 16:01

rodeoson · 23/07/2024 13:00

For those who commented on me saying "partner", I originally wrote "boyfriend" but then decided that sounded wrong as I'm 46. Then I wrote "man I'm seeing" but that sounded too casual. I also considered "lover" but I thought that might be a bit too descriptive....

It's really just semantics. I didn't expect it to cause such controversy.

He sounds like a very emotionally intelligent man who cares about your feelings. All I can suggest is to be open & honest, there is nothing wrong with having a rough idea on how often he feels he can communicate. You sound like a reasonable person who understands his work commitment & isn’t expecting constant contact.

As for everyone calling you clingy & saying you need to calm down & shouldn’t be expecting anything - if I had been with someone for 5 months & they didn’t give two hoots about not speaking to me for 6 weeks I would be reassessing things, I would also be questioning my feelings if I didn’t care either 😂

Multiplemum123 · 28/07/2024 15:27

You say you speak multiple times a day just now so i would simply ask him what his idea of less communication looks like to start with. If it means only once or twice a day i think that is more than reasonable given time differences etc. If he means less than this then you just need to be honest about your expectations

All these brutal posts calling her needy etc are awful! If you’re used to speaking to someone multiple times a day consistently for 5 months then this will clearly be a big change, stop trying to shame her for having completely normal feelings.

Sjh15 · 26/07/2024 16:35

I wouldn’t bother visiting given you haven’t been together long plus the fact he said he will be so busy, seems a waste of money and time to go out there
see what happens when he gets back x

YellowAsteroid · 23/07/2024 20:20

You've only been together for 5 months! He'll be busy: he's explained this thoroughly. If he's thinking about you, he'll be in contact.

YABU. You do actually sound a bit needy.

Make sure you've got something to keep you very busy while he's away!

BeaRF75 · 23/07/2024 19:42

Blimey, this poor chap!
He's only going for 6 weeks and he'll be super busy.
Why do you have to set out any "needs"? What's wrong with saying "I hope it all goes really well, and I'm looking forward to seeing you when you get back"?

AnnaCBi · 23/07/2024 19:31

Time difference can make it difficult. Ask him to send you a voice note when he’s getting ready in the morning and you do the same.

MzHz · 23/07/2024 19:25

NervousSubject · 22/07/2024 23:42

Honestly, after five months he’s not your partner or anywhere near, he’s a fairly new boyfriend. Surely you don’t need to schedule things to this extent? He’s going to be busy and on the road a lot, plus you’re already flying out for a week in the middle of his six-week absence.

^ this

you’re future faking yourself @rodeoson

you wave him off, say have a great time, catch you at some point and see you in a few weeks.

Talipesmum · 23/07/2024 19:20

rodeoson · 23/07/2024 13:00

For those who commented on me saying "partner", I originally wrote "boyfriend" but then decided that sounded wrong as I'm 46. Then I wrote "man I'm seeing" but that sounded too casual. I also considered "lover" but I thought that might be a bit too descriptive....

It's really just semantics. I didn't expect it to cause such controversy.

I think we should all just adopt “lover”. Or, as mumsnet would have it, DL.

PuddlesPityParty · 23/07/2024 14:46

rodeoson · 23/07/2024 13:00

For those who commented on me saying "partner", I originally wrote "boyfriend" but then decided that sounded wrong as I'm 46. Then I wrote "man I'm seeing" but that sounded too casual. I also considered "lover" but I thought that might be a bit too descriptive....

It's really just semantics. I didn't expect it to cause such controversy.

Haha this is mumsnet! 🤣

rodeoson · 23/07/2024 13:00

For those who commented on me saying "partner", I originally wrote "boyfriend" but then decided that sounded wrong as I'm 46. Then I wrote "man I'm seeing" but that sounded too casual. I also considered "lover" but I thought that might be a bit too descriptive....

It's really just semantics. I didn't expect it to cause such controversy.

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Edingril · 23/07/2024 10:25

If my husband demanded I contact every day when I say I am busy I would say every few days is fair

No I would not feel the need to contact him every night just because he has issues, so if it was reversed I would not expect this of him

DaisyChain505 · 23/07/2024 09:45

No matter how busy he is work wise he will still be going back to his hotel/accommodation every night to sleep. There’s no excuse for him to not be expected to catch up with you before bed.

Yes some nights he might be too tired for a long FaceTime or phone call but a goodnight catch up message with photos and questions for you to reply to is a reasonable level of communication.

NervousSubject · 23/07/2024 09:41

rodeoson · 23/07/2024 08:47

For all those asking, he invited me to India! I have friends there anyway and have been a few times so he suggested coming out to visit while he's there. He's much more forward than me on this stuff. It is funny that the MN (and world....) perception is always that it's the woman who's pushy and clingy.

The perception that you were being ‘pushy and clingy’ came from what you posted/didn’t post on here. You said he said he was going to be too busy to communicate much when away. You’re the one who called him your partner when you’ve been seeing one another for only five months. You’re the one posting on the internet about whether you’re unreasonable to get him to agree on some kind of comms schedule.

HoppingPavlova · 23/07/2024 09:34

OP I don't think you sound pushy/clingy. It's natural to wonder how this long trip will affect your very new relationship

It’s 6 weeks. 6 weeks. Not 6 months which would be in ‘long trip’ category and anything 3-6mths would be on the longer side of short. Up to 12weeks is pretty much the blink of an eye in the scheme of things.

Apollo365 · 23/07/2024 09:24

I’m lucky to get one text a day when husband is away with work.
I never msg him when I’m away unless it’s a question re the kids.
I think you get used to it after a few times and just accept that it’s a busy time for the other person.

rodeoson · 23/07/2024 09:16

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 23/07/2024 08:59

Okay, so he's been trained by a prevoius girlfriend to be nervous. Great, you just say, "oh, I know, you're busy. Message me when you can- a daily message so I know you're alive and thinking of me is great. If we're both online at the same time, brilliant, but with timezones I know that might not happen a lot! Oh , and send pictures! xx"

This is perfect! Thank you!!!

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Chickenuggetsticks · 23/07/2024 09:16

DH has to travel a bit for work, he records video messages for DD and we will find a ten minute slot where we can chat or sometime it’s just a whatsapp.

If I were him I’d be really put off if someone I was seeing decided they were going to fly out to see me while I was working. They would be getting in my way tbh and most likely I’d see them in the morning and in the evening. You are overthinking stuff, a few messages, some facetiming etc is fine.

what do you think is going to happen if you don’t go out to see him or he isn’t in regular contact?

coastalhawk · 23/07/2024 09:13

I would see how it goes. He might well be in touch more than he says anyway (probably will I think!) - let that be the reason you talk more rather than making contact with you a duty? Not a great dynamic yo set up that early in relationship i think. You can always express that later on but i would give it a chance first and see what actually happens

Heronwatcher · 23/07/2024 09:11

I also agree that for lots of people when working away and working hard their mind is fully on the job- so don’t take it personally if he’s not in touch 2/3 times a day- just enjoy your own summer and see how things go.

Newnamesameoldlurker · 23/07/2024 09:11

OP I don't think you sound pushy/clingy. It's natural to wonder how this long trip will affect your very new relationship. There is a book always recommended on MN called why men love bitches- I read it out of curiosity and it has great advice on situations like this. The advice would be not to ask for anything but just very breezily and casually state your expectations "I'm sure you'll have time for a quick check- in message at some point in the day" then leave it there and see how he acts. As others have said, if he has time to eat/wee he has time to send a quick hi each day. I liked a pps suggestion of leaving each other quick voice notes to narrate how your days went if its difficult to schedule calls. You could model that by starting it (again without directly asking for anything). It sounds like he is great and you've got nothing to worry about, so hopefully the trip will confirm that

diktat · 23/07/2024 09:11

rodeoson · 23/07/2024 08:47

For all those asking, he invited me to India! I have friends there anyway and have been a few times so he suggested coming out to visit while he's there. He's much more forward than me on this stuff. It is funny that the MN (and world....) perception is always that it's the woman who's pushy and clingy.

You did seem a bit clingy though, calling him a partner when you've been together 5 months and talking about what you need him from him whilst he's away for a few weeks.

If you had said your boyfriend was doing this he would have got the same response.

Heronwatcher · 23/07/2024 09:10

I suspect if you over engineer it it will become a chore.

It might sound petty but I think I would make it clear that I won’t be waiting around for him- if he says that he’s likely to be busy just respond likewise, yeah babe I know, me too, I don’t think I’ll catch a breath until September.

I think this is an excellent chance for him to see if he misses you and you to see how much/ if you miss him. I’d definitely be dropping him chatty/ funny messages occasionally just letting him know what I’ve been up to (ideally with many handsome guys about), but leaving it to him to be in touch with me. If the instinct isn’t there then you can learn from that.

Testina · 23/07/2024 09:08

I know he had a very demanding ex girlfriend and I think likely she would've needed managing in this way, which is maybe why he took this approach with me.

🤮 beware the man who talks about “demanding” girlfriends that they’ve “managed”. You sound very young.

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