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If you live in a middle class area do you ever hear your neighbours argue?

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Barrol · 22/07/2024 22:39

Never heard a single neighbour argue and it makes me so self conscious when DH and I do. Not that we argue often. Dh and I raised our voices earlier in the evening as we had very different opinions on how to approach ab annoying task we are getting through. All the windows were wide open. So embarrassed. It was only for 5 minutes.

Is it because we live in a middle class area in the Home Counties?

Just for context our cul de sac is described as sought after on house listings. Most people are professionals around here. Do these people just have calm discussions?

Have lived here for 10 years. Never heard a peep.

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DiscoBeat · 23/07/2024 01:28

I've never heard them argue, although they wouldn't be heard unless they were at the end of their garden. I obviously disagree with my DH sometimes but we don't raise our voices so people wouldn't hear that anyway.

RawBloomers · 23/07/2024 01:24

Barrol · 23/07/2024 01:20

Btw my point wasn’t that middle class people are less likely to argue just that they are quieter when they do so for whatever reason

They probably are less likely to argue. Over all, middle class people are less likely to have as much stress in their lives as working class and so less to argue about and more resources to solve problems without getting into conflict with each other.

Barrol · 23/07/2024 01:20

Btw my point wasn’t that middle class people are less likely to argue just that they are quieter when they do so for whatever reason

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RawBloomers · 23/07/2024 01:19

I grew up in a working class area and the only people who I remember shouting at each other were my family. But we heard the neighbours a lot just going about their lives because the housing was terraced and the windows single pane. And we all tried to be considerate but generally it was a fairly loud life whether it was TVs playing, people crashing around, laughter, car engines going, kids playing, etc.

I’m a lot more middle class now and I only hear the neighbours when they have loud parties in the garden and sometimes kids shrieking when they play.

I was a police officer in the 90s and we were called by neighbours to domestics in working class areas a lot more, almost never called to the more middle class areas. But again, more densely packed housing (and more people living in each house), also I’m pretty sure more of the housing stock was working class. But the number of domestics where we were called by someone who lived in the house was less uneven. But domestics aren’t just people communicating in a shouty way, which I think is your question, so may be less relevant.

PyongyangKipperbang · 23/07/2024 01:09

Working class street dweller here and not very often in the last 20 years or so and never since the pub over the road was demolished, although when I was still with my very violent abusive ex, I am sure that my neighbours did.

But I grew up in a naice MC street (70's, working class people who became the classic boomers and it was all about appearances), and boy oh boy yes we did. As I am sure did our NDN. The wife of our NDN couple could etch glass when she was on one!

I remember my (then, due to hormonal issues) abusive mother battering the crap out of me and then beating me again for screaming and showing her up...... work that one out. Apparently it never happened.......

Garlickest · 23/07/2024 00:49

I don’t know how to verbalise why I think there is a class divide on this matter.

I think you really should try, before your thread's deleted.

Poor, young mothers are the most likely to suffer domestic abuse. This doesn't really equate to 'lower class' people having louder or more frequent arguments, though. They might have thinner walls and be in closer proximity. I seriously doubt that middle-class professionals are better at measured conflict resolution - my extensive experience of working and socialising with them suggests not!

https://new.basw.co.uk/sites/default/files/2024-01/181317%20Poverty%2C%20Social%20Inequality%20%26%20Domestic%20Abuse.pdf

Disturbtheuniverse · 23/07/2024 00:31

SausageinaBun · 22/07/2024 23:32

We live surrounded by 4+ bed detached houses, so probably fits the bill. I've come close to calling the police due to the shouted threats of violence from one house.

I suspect we aren't a quiet house, but hopefully not that bad.

Everyone else is pretty quiet.

Please do call the police if you hear threats of violence. My ex H used to threaten and shout at me (we lived in a lovely middle class area). I'm so sure the neighbours knew everything and was amazed no one called the police, even though we had a small dc. I eventually did call them myself before he finished me off, but it has always made me think the very British habit of not getting involved could have led to a very different outcome for me.

mrsdineen2 · 23/07/2024 00:23

I was raised as one of the awful working class people you dislike, but I learned not to performatively involve neighbours in disagreements with my spouse.

Maybe I can teach you that in some sort of cultural exchange?

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 23/07/2024 00:22

No of course not. My nearest neighbour is about half a mile away. My DH and I do have debates, and we sometimes use the fuck off word, occasionally I'll tell him he's a bastard. Both solidly working class, even though I have 2 degrees. I guess we are new money?

BeethovenNinth · 23/07/2024 00:21

Both sides - never hear a squeak. I can hear one side - older couple - speak in the garden and I think they speak so nicely together it must be false. But no. He just does what he is told and that makes for a happy marriage

my parents threw plates at each other (now divorced). So I can’t believe some couples age so happily

justasking111 · 23/07/2024 00:19

We're in a middle class area. Don't hear screaming rows except from one couple with four young children, mummy sometimes loses it.

The rest of us the children have flown the nest. So it's teeth clenched whispered insults if anyone else is around 😂

Our neighbour used to play the piano in the summer with windows and doors open it was lovely

EconomyClassRockstar · 23/07/2024 00:18

No. Never. I do cringe remembering when I had packed the car to take the kids away for a week camping and DS, who was 13 at the time, just suddenly refused to come with us. I ended up losing my cool entirely and yelling, "Get in the fucking car. Right now!" not realizing his window was open. Not my finest moment.

Needless to say, we all had a brilliant trip and DS in particular laughed his head off when we got home and the next door neighbour's house was for sale.

Barrol · 23/07/2024 00:12

I apologise. I’m asking to have this thread deleted. It’s clearly got people’s backs up. I was just trying to see if people living in similar areas to me ever hear their neighbours shouting. No more, no less. And I ask this not to troll but out of genuine curiosity as to why my family seem to be the only ones incapable of behaving nicely.

Middle class is just an accurate description of our area.

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Cherrysoup · 23/07/2024 00:11

We lived in a very middle class street, unfortunately the upstairs neighbours began arguing lots, he threw her against the wall, I think he’d started taking lots of drugs after losing his job-drink driving, I think, he worked for a well known national replacement windscreen company. Police were called, I think he eventually ended up in prison.

He had previously told me horrific stories about his life growing up in Durban, how it was preferable to drive home drunk rather than use a taxi etc, how someone he knew had had their hand cut off so the guy could steal his Rolex. I think he was just used to behaving outside of the law. 🤷‍♀️

I went onto the drive one day in my new house, the wife from the attached house was effing and blinding at her husband who shushed her when he saw us. Made me laugh, my language is appalling!

HangingOnJustAbout · 23/07/2024 00:09

sugarbyebye · 22/07/2024 22:45

No, never hear any. I mean, they happen, but no shouting and screaming, just discussion arguments and probably some sulks and huffs.

I grew up in a household with shouting and screaming and things being thrown at each other and walls, and neighbours shouting and screaming at each other on the street. So I appreciate my nice, calm middle class life and non- violent partner.

This is 100% my experience too.

I didn't think couples argued like that now, I thought it was gone along with smacking the kids.

I do hear my neighbours teenage daughters trying to kill each other though.

KreedKafer · 23/07/2024 00:08

I’ve lived in some middle-class areas and some much more working class areas, and I’ve never really heard my neighbours arguing in any of them! Certainly not on a regular basis anyway.

Barrol · 23/07/2024 00:08

People where I live do tend to be slightly older - have teens kids as opposed to babies. Wonder if it is an age thing as to why my neighbours never seem to argue.

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Candlesburningbrightly10 · 23/07/2024 00:07

This post is beyond cringe . Talking about being MC & describing her house and surrounding as 'sought after' . One thing for sure is the poster is not MC . As bad as Dani Dyer thinking she is middle class too.

bumblebee1000 · 23/07/2024 00:06

I stayed at aunts house once for a year, very posh neighbours...scientist and private school head....rowed and bickered day and night....posh london suburb...then few minutes all family would emerge..wave and smile at me...then continue again later....they did eventually divorce....opposite was a very loud wealthy woman....head to toe Gucci....shouted constantly at her adult daughter....but they were all mad....daughter drove an amphibuous ww2 tank thing...!!..There was also 2 suicides due to being cut off from inheritance....one hanging and the other set himself and the house he never got, alight.

Derbee · 23/07/2024 00:05

We live in a relatively midde class area. Only heard neighbours fighting once - we were walking the dog and it sounded so awful with a woman screaming that my DP went and knocked on the door to check she was ok. I was standing on the opposite side of the road, feeling very awkward but wanting to support DP as I knew he was right to check.

Never heard anything from there again, but they’re still together

Barrol · 23/07/2024 00:04

Dh and I are not in a good place at all with our marriage. Our communication is terrible when we get snippy with one another. If we were better we’d probably be divorced.

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Veryoldandtired · 23/07/2024 00:02

idk… I’ve never shouted at my DH and try and not to raise my voice at the kiddos either. Not sure if I’m middle class or something… I thought it was common decency. Never heard my neighbours argue either. Just their bloody dog barking all the time.

nightmareXmas · 23/07/2024 00:02

Yes, I've heard neighbours arguing in my current and former homes ( a mixture of middle class and non-middle class areas in my assessment - I don't think social class is so much of a factor). To be honest occasional arguing bothers me less than the regular noise of people talking loudly for no apparent reason. At least arguments are interesting and are evidence of some passion in a relationship. If you are not hearing other people argue, it may be because they know you can hear and are self conscious about it.

Dweetfidilove · 23/07/2024 00:01

I live in a block of flats surrounded by million pound properties and the only sounds I hear coming from them are lawnmowers, fireworks and the very very occasional party in a garden. The houses are huge and detached so you could create an almighty storm and noone would know.

The only indication I've had of possible ruckus was two police cars outside a house one day.

Going by the Stately Homes threads though, I'm sure all kinds of the same shits happen behind these doors and there's just more resources to hide it.

Mirrorcat · 23/07/2024 00:00

People with emotional intelligence don’t scream insults at each other whether ‘middle class’ or not.

find better ways to communicate

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