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If you live in a middle class area do you ever hear your neighbours argue?

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Barrol · 22/07/2024 22:39

Never heard a single neighbour argue and it makes me so self conscious when DH and I do. Not that we argue often. Dh and I raised our voices earlier in the evening as we had very different opinions on how to approach ab annoying task we are getting through. All the windows were wide open. So embarrassed. It was only for 5 minutes.

Is it because we live in a middle class area in the Home Counties?

Just for context our cul de sac is described as sought after on house listings. Most people are professionals around here. Do these people just have calm discussions?

Have lived here for 10 years. Never heard a peep.

OP posts:
twohotwaterbottles · 23/07/2024 06:54

Maybe everyone's doing that special sort of whisper shout that you do with your kids when you're out in public and you're absolutely livid with them. 🤣

DeathNote11 · 23/07/2024 06:53

AtomicBlondeRose · 22/07/2024 22:53

I live in a naice area now and never hear people argue, although my next door neighbours do communicate mostly through bellowing up and down stairs like Kerry’s mum in This Country which makes us laugh (they’re nice people!).

I definitely heard more shouting and arguing when I lived in a council house and in terraced housing, but it might just be the proximity rather than the class difference.

"Tomaaaaaaa-o!!"

I'd forgotten about that & did a coffee snort when I read & remembered. Thanks for the morning chuckle ☺️

RipleyGreen · 23/07/2024 06:48

Ilovegoldies · 23/07/2024 04:33

In defence of the OP I'm a former noise officer. I can confirm that complaints about people arguing only ever came from the less salubrious parts of town.

Also in defence of OP I can confirm that is a similar finding to my own.

Lemon1111 · 23/07/2024 06:45

Barrol · 23/07/2024 01:20

Btw my point wasn’t that middle class people are less likely to argue just that they are quieter when they do so for whatever reason

What makes you middle class in your opinion? Because in my opinion if you are actually middle class it would be a faux pas to say that’s what you are, Just because you have the money to mortgage a property it doesn’t make you middle class..The photo of the style of property you like in looks pretty average..You get nice people in all walks of life and equally you get horrible people, it’s luck of the draw who you live next to and nothing to do with class. Did you mean to ask am I more likely to hear arguments living next to social housing, or in terraced properties or in scruffy properties or in a flat block, I don’t understand? Or if the people rent or own. In any case you don’t sound very nice.

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 23/07/2024 06:39

I used to have this same fear when I was with my ex, he used to scream at me and I was mortified thinking people could hear.

Generally with the windows shut they won't hear.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 23/07/2024 06:35

Lwrenn · 23/07/2024 01:35

Hi! I'm from what is known as the underclass originally 😂
I'm not offended, if you didn't shout when I grew up you didn't get heard 😂

I thought you'd like this -
When I moved into a nice area for the first time, no sofas in front gardens and burnt out cars blocking entries or people trying to sell you your clothes theyd pinched off your line bacm to you, i was quite surprised to hear my new neighbour being absolutely awful to what I assumed was his DW.
I heard him yelling and swearing and the next day when he went to work i knocked and asked her if she needed any help and told her (I've had abusive relationships myself) if she needed anything to knock if she was in danger and she was always welcome to my home. Blurted this out without taking a breath.
She looked at me like I had 5 heads.
I explained I heard him screaming at her and swearing. She looked really shocked and then realised what I was on about.
Turns out their fucking cat had kindly walked in through the flap late at night and gifted them a mostly, but not fully dead, mouse.
The "dirty little twat" he yelled was at their dcat and not the wife he dearly loved.

I became friendly with them both but still always cringe thinking about it.

I bet they thought you were a really decent person and a very good neighbour. ( Has made me laugh though )

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 23/07/2024 06:27

FinalCeleryScheme · 22/07/2024 23:14

We had to flee a posh area because of the non-stop shouty arguments. It was all up and down the street.

Furious arguments about whether it was Tuscany or Provence in the summer. Horrible set-tos about the new Head at the prep school. A blazing row between a mum and a daughter over clarinet practice. The lab v retriever wars from no. 55.

The worst, though, was a two-dayer with a husband refusing to pay the increase in the National Trust subscription: “NO, NO, NO! SISSINGHURST IS NOT WORTH IT!”

I think you just made my day.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 23/07/2024 06:25

gettingolderbutcooler · 22/07/2024 22:43

Well, I'm sure my lovely neighbours heard me yelling at my husband to fuck right off as he was leaving for work a few weeks ago. 😁

😆

Chatteringmagpie7 · 23/07/2024 06:20

The neighbours of my friend called the police after hearing her abusive husband shouting at her.

Very middle class, privately educated couple.
so it does happen.

Possibly you don’t hear because you aren’t constantly at home, or there’s more space between homes.

Stroopcoggle · 23/07/2024 06:19

I live in a semi detached house in a very middle class area. I’ve never heard the neighbours argue. I occasionally hear the mum telling off the kids, but only faintly.

At our last house, same area, we did hear the neighbours arguing fairly regularly. Was good entertainment, as they made a holy
show of themselves. It was an older house with thinner walls.

Prior to all this, I lived in a working class area (the horror!!!!!) and didn’t hear any neighbours arguing. It was all quite sedate.

HelpMeGetThrough · 23/07/2024 06:10

I guess where we live is middle class (it's just houses in a road that are worth a few hundred grand). I've heard a few neighbours having a shouting match over the years.

One neighbours teen daughter is a shouter.

I'm sure they've heard us too.

DoIWantTo · 23/07/2024 05:24

The snobbery is sickening. Working class here and never once have I had an argument the neighbours would be able to hear, how absolutely antisocial and uncouth. Money can’t buy class apparently.

MenopauseSucks · 23/07/2024 04:51

When we moved to our current place 20 years ago, it was pretty quiet. Still is in fact. Yhe house over the back was a family home - husband, wife & 2 kids.

Wife & female teenager had a tempestuous & very reactive relationship, putting it mildly, and you could hear the daily arguing even when the windows were shut.
This went on for years. We did complain a couple of times as it was ridiculous - they were always at each other's throats. You never heard a male voice!

Eventually when they were arguing with the windows open & we were in the garden my mother said something along the lines of 'please shut up you're very tedious' which did shut them up - I guess they were surprised.
The husband came round and apologised to us for the noise.

Things eased when puberty passed. It was bloody annoying & I was shocked at the way the daughter talked to her mother.
I wouldn't have dared talk to my parents that way as a teenager.
However they were as bad as each other & you could hear how they were winding each other up.

The family is still there although the children have flown the nest. It has made me very mindful of conversations, noise level, etc when I have the windows open!

Ilovegoldies · 23/07/2024 04:33

In defence of the OP I'm a former noise officer. I can confirm that complaints about people arguing only ever came from the less salubrious parts of town.

dontforgetme · 23/07/2024 04:08

I've never heard my neighbours arguing but I can guarantee they have heard us. We are fiery! But otherwise very loving and very happy Grin

HappyWorkingMummy · 23/07/2024 03:23

Barrol · 22/07/2024 22:54

To anyone who is working class please just take this question in good faith. I’m trying to understand why I’m making a show of myself. I’m not trying to offend in the slightest.

🙄

Chucklit · 23/07/2024 02:52

All of my neighbours scream shout when they're in the front or back garden like general conversation. It's like they're in the same room as you. Kids, adults, doesn't matter. We're in the middle of terraced houses and I've realised it's making me grind my teeth. It's no better inside, one side has a deaf elderly woman blasting her tv at full volume until the wee early hours. We share a wall. The other side have never been known to shut their front door quietly, they run up the stairs like a herd of elephants and seem to spend an inordinate amount of time talking as a group just behind the wall when I'm in the loo. I can hear every word, just as much as I can hear the blokes weeing even from my bedroom. Hell is other people!

HucklefinBerry · 23/07/2024 02:49

Upper middle class don't shout and scream. We seethe 😂

PinkyPonkyLittleDonkey · 23/07/2024 02:12

MiriamMay · 22/07/2024 22:43

I live next to a very wealthy family and yes they argue a lot. They seem to spend most weekends drunk from morning to night.

Money doesn’t equate class.

Bamboozled5 · 23/07/2024 01:48

Never seem to hear any shouting from neighbours here. Regular area of mixed urban housing. There's a lot of traffic noise during the day which would mask it but at night, still completely silent. Even when I'm out walking the dog late, I never hear anything! Seems odd to me!

Willyoujustbequiet · 23/07/2024 01:42

Yes. Affluent area, detached houses but I've heard neighbours on both sides and directly across the cul-de-sac.

All domestic abuse. The common factor isn't class, its men.

Lwrenn · 23/07/2024 01:35

Barrol · 23/07/2024 00:12

I apologise. I’m asking to have this thread deleted. It’s clearly got people’s backs up. I was just trying to see if people living in similar areas to me ever hear their neighbours shouting. No more, no less. And I ask this not to troll but out of genuine curiosity as to why my family seem to be the only ones incapable of behaving nicely.

Middle class is just an accurate description of our area.

Hi! I'm from what is known as the underclass originally 😂
I'm not offended, if you didn't shout when I grew up you didn't get heard 😂

I thought you'd like this -
When I moved into a nice area for the first time, no sofas in front gardens and burnt out cars blocking entries or people trying to sell you your clothes theyd pinched off your line bacm to you, i was quite surprised to hear my new neighbour being absolutely awful to what I assumed was his DW.
I heard him yelling and swearing and the next day when he went to work i knocked and asked her if she needed any help and told her (I've had abusive relationships myself) if she needed anything to knock if she was in danger and she was always welcome to my home. Blurted this out without taking a breath.
She looked at me like I had 5 heads.
I explained I heard him screaming at her and swearing. She looked really shocked and then realised what I was on about.
Turns out their fucking cat had kindly walked in through the flap late at night and gifted them a mostly, but not fully dead, mouse.
The "dirty little twat" he yelled was at their dcat and not the wife he dearly loved.

I became friendly with them both but still always cringe thinking about it.

EconomyClassRockstar · 23/07/2024 01:33

Barrol · 23/07/2024 01:20

Btw my point wasn’t that middle class people are less likely to argue just that they are quieter when they do so for whatever reason

I think that's very true. Hence there were a million and one Gordon's beating the shit out of their Sandra's in the 80's and bringing domestic violence into the fore.

PontiacFirebird · 23/07/2024 01:33

I can’t sleep and this thread has entertained me. Not offended at all!
I’m mainly astonished by the claim of a pp that she has never shouted at her husband! Shock.
I think middle class people argue by hissing vicious passive aggressive things at each other rather than yelling, right?

MegsNaiceJam · 23/07/2024 01:33

Our middle class neighbours had an argument so bad we called the police. He was threatening to “drop” her, and they had a child under 2 in the house. I don’t think class has much to do with wether people argue.

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