Yet another person killed by a dog

Your dog (or other pet) injures someone, or kills them. The law should be as if it were you inflicting the injury directly. Animals are recognised in law as sentient beings, law of joint enterprise applied.

Your dog causes damage to someone's property, same principle, call it criminal damage.

Of course there's something wrong with keeping dogs in flats, just like you don't look children in cages. How absurd to even suggest this is ok

The dog wasn’t aggressive, it was spooked when she had a seizure. Was mostly trying to help at first. She was a good person with a big heart who took the dog in when it needed to be re homed. She was caring for kittens she had rescued at her partners. You can judge all her decisions but there is a family who have had the most horrible few years who have lost a family member. They are also suffering. I hope they don’t come across these posts! They are hurting enough already!

MouseofCommons · 22/07/2024 22:40
"any moron can buy any dog, no matter how unsuitable..."
I've seen this in my street. One couple in a flat, who both walked with sticks, owned a German shepherd they couldn't control. I reported them to the dog warden sharpish.

Years ago, I had to hold our 6 month old PR terrier high above my head as a fully grown adult Rottweiler and a youngster leapt up snapping their jaws on either side of me. They were off lead and the owner’s arm in plaster. F**king idiot actually said she couldn’t control them atm! The stupidity of some people knows no bounds.

I’m always sad to read yet another report but slightly less so if it’s the owner of a dangerous dog rather than a bystander or child.

@ViscountDreams there is nothing wrong with keeping dogs in flats, even large breeds. The only problem could be if the dog has to walk up and down flights of stairs regularly.

Dogs don't need acres of land or massive houses. What they need is a secure bond with its owners plus preferably another dog for company.

A dog will just want to be with its owner whether that's in a small flat or a mansion, ideally with some sort of space or sleeping area but this does not have be a massive area. As long it gets adequate exercise both physically and mentally it will be fine.

Same goes for children

I understand where you are coming from but we have laws in place, and systems of confinement and punishment for humans who break those laws. Dogs are incapable of understanding and following laws, and the only punishment we can given them is killing them.

It's not a fair comparison.

I love dogs but it is ridiculous that there are domestic pets that can kill people, if you really think about it. I'd be more supportive of proper controls being put in place around ownership though, rather than outright bans (better for the animals too!).

"These anti-dogs threads are tedious to the extreme now."

What's "tedious to the extreme" is the number of dogs attacking humans.

It’s breed AND owner.

No one who lives an average lifestyle needs a guardian breed, and frankly they shouldn’t be allowed to have one. If that means some guardian breeds die out, honestly I don’t care, dog breeds are a human invention, it’s not the same as rhinos going extinct.

In this case, if all of the above points about the owner are true, she wasn’t suitable for dog ownership at all.

@PyongyangKipperbang

think that through! It's not the solution you think it is.

Well, men commit most violent crimes.

Do you suggest we ban all men too?

What else do you want to ban? Trees because a branch might fall on someone, cars because of the potential for accidents? steps because someone might trip?

These anti-dogs threads are tedious to the extreme now.

@brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

what a ridiculous comment

My best friend had a rottie, who sadly died at 6 from cancer and she was the most amazing dog.

She had a lab cross after and has sadly had to remove, even with multiple behaviourist and time and training due to her snapping and resource guarding. The risk was just not worth it with children.

I used to think it was the breed but I think the owner has more to do with it. My neighbour got a rottweiler and Ill admit i was worried it was an agreesive breed. But I see him training the dog every day, going on 2 hour walks twice a day and the dog never barks or acts dangerously.
Some if these owners look like they can't look after a goldfish, there's no way they are putting the work in. Unfortunately this is the result.

This needs to be taken as a public safety announcment - if people are prone to seizures for whatever reason, think VERY HARD AND LONG about getting a dog, particularly if it is not an official, trained seizure alert dog.

ESPECIALLY a mastiff/bully type. Mastiff/bully types have a long, very long, history of attacking their owner who is having a seizure - just google it.

People who covet these dogs have an IQ to match the animal’s

There were 2 RR pups in the puppy class we took our dog to and they were lovely lovely dogs. They had acres of land where they lived though. As lovely as they were I wouldn't have one due to not being able to control one.

I understand Rhodesian Ridgebacks were used for lion hunting back in the day - hardly a cuddly playmate

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Glad no kids were hurt

This.

If news reports are accurate:

• It was a Bullmastiff.
• The woman had had the adult dog for a couple of months.
• She had known 'poor health'.
• She was unemployed.
• She and the dog lived in a flat.
• When the attack happened she had only 'popped home briefly' to the flat, after being away the night before.

Who the fuck gets this kind of dog in a FLAT, whilst unemployed (dogs are expensive to properly care for) and in poor health...then fucks off overnight to the boyfriends and leaves it.

Every time I read one of these, the main thing I'm thankful for is that it's the owners suffering the consequences of their own appalling decisions and actions and not some poor bystander.

RRs are not suitable as a domestic pet, particularly if the owner can't train them, which these people can't.

And 'protective' generally means they will attack if they feel threatened. These are traditionally hunting and guarding dogs. These are not beginner dogs or dogs for someone in a small house or flat.

Well that’s okay as he obviously had the time and energy to devote to them.

Even a well trained dog can be freaked out by someone having a seizure.

This case might not be as simple as shit owners - badly trained dog.

There does seem to have been a spate of deaths by dog in Coventry recently!

First google search re Rhodesian Ridgeback "Ridgebacks are protective of children and other household members. These are excellent natural watchdogs and family protectors".
Caucasian Shepherd, my gosh. Gorgeous, but terrifying! Looks like a cuddly Lion.
This is exactly why this needs to be monitored, I can see how the hard of thinking would easily see why these might be suitable or at least a 'cute' pet to have.

Great idea
We could video the fights and charge per view.
Maybe pitch the idea to Elon Musk?

I did some reading on dog attacks and it seems this is quite a common scenario. The dogs apparently often try to pick the owners up by their necks during the seizures.