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I am not the mother I thought I would be

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Sosadd11 · 22/07/2024 19:07

I hate it, if I’m totally honest. Which I never am in real life. Yes I love my child (19 months). Yes I’ve had moments of joy and yes being a parent is amazing in lots of ways. But fucking hell so is travelling the world, furthering your career, having a relationship just focused on you.

Physically I feel shit. Not lack of sleep but just lack of anything for me. Even when I do go to the hairdresser or similar, I’ve still had a million jobs to do before then and don’t turn up chilled out and fully focused on myself anymore. And I’m always on a fucking timetable. I hate it. Constant cleaning up, whinging, throwing food, grabbing, possessions runined… I know it’s all toddler stuff and the sad thing is I know I’m lucky, they’ve been an easy baby and barely had any real tantrums. It’s not them. Im just sick of it. One day enjoying their meal the next rejecting it. If you’re ill you carry on. Lie ins don’t really happen because even if you can you’re programmed to wake by 7.

I thought I would have so much patience. I don’t. I cannot wait until bedtime.

I genuinely hate my life so much. My messy house. My finances just about in tact. My career not taken a hit yet but taken a back seat because it’s just not fucking possible to do it all well all the time. It sounds dramatic but I really feel a number is done on women 90% of the time. Yes some men are decent but lots still don’t do their fair share, even when it’s perceived to be.

Did anyone ever feel this and then change their perception? I don’t know how I will get through it all if this is how I am. And no I genuinely don’t feel depressed, I think that’s another thing throw at women when actually it’s just motherhood means mostly putting on women and god forbid it’s called out without a clinical condition attached to that reaction (note I’m not downplaying PND, I just know this isn’t it).

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Despair1 · 25/07/2024 19:58

Sosadd11 · 22/07/2024 19:12

@Pootles34 thanks. I hate it. I wish I had known the reality

Reflects how many people have felt, I promise

Feelinadequate23 · 24/07/2024 16:32

I felt exactly the same as you, OP. I often told my husband I felt like a shell of my former self. Parenting just took so much from me I found it impossible to still be good at my job, still be a good wife, daughter, sister, friend. I found it so depressing, stressful and soul-destroying, despite loving my son more than anyone else.

I'm only a year on from you now, OP, and it's already SO much better. Him being able to talk is a game changer for me and I can see it just getting better and better the more I can do with him.

Hold on in there, you are not alone.

Thunderandlightningisfrightening · 24/07/2024 16:24

Honestly I think the motherhood myth is so real and another way to control women.

WhatNoRaisins · 23/07/2024 21:04

The way I've approached it is by having mine fairly close together and telling myself it's just one stage in my life. I knew if DC2 hadn't have come soon enough and my life had improved too much I'd have sacked the idea of having another baby right off.

Cheeseandcrackers40 · 23/07/2024 20:54

LuckySantangelo35 · 23/07/2024 10:55

As it’s so incredibly hard why do so many people put themselves through it again? Or a third time? Or even fourth?

why go through such hardship all over again?

why?! Genuinely curious!

I read that most parents have one more child than they can handle... so if you have one and think "this is hard but Ive got the hang of it" you have another and so on until you hit your limit 😂 if you find one impossible you probs won't have more. I had pnd with my first which was rough but by the time we conceived his sister (when he was 19 months) I was finding it breezy. Husband had the snip almost immediately after second was born, bloody hell the first few years of 2 were rough for us. I genuinely could not have imagined anything worse than having another child (nor could he). I adore my kids but it ain't easy x

Mostlycarbon · 23/07/2024 20:33

Personally I think you are at the very worst age with a 19 month old. 12-24 months I think is the hardest part because they run around completely wildly, literally no sense of personal safety, very little language, horribly messy eaters, disgusting pooey nappies. Just small balls of chaos. I know people go on about the terrible twos but once they start talking and you can walk with them to some extent or they can go on their balance bike, I found it a lot easier.

Thunderandlightningisfrightening · 23/07/2024 20:09

I love my child and have thought about having another. Mainly so he's not alone but we're on holiday at the moment and I'm not getting a minutes peace so must so I cannot do this again.

Glasspanels · 23/07/2024 19:10

Everything you've said resonates with me OP. I say that as the mother of 2 fabulous adults. I promise it does get better, but I do remember myself and DH sitting in bed one night at around 4am and he said to me, if you had to do it again, would you? And I said probably not. But that was exhaustion and frustration at not really knowing what we were doing.

I often hear people saying they love babies, but I confess I prefer kids from about 3 yoa. When they can explain what's wrong with them! And I loved their teenage years, I think I was lucky with mine though.

There's a saying, "this too shall pass", which I often used to remind myself.

Women are really disadvantaged by having babies. Our bodies change, our career prospects often take a nosedive, our lives are upended in a way that no man's ever is.

Chickenuggetsticks · 23/07/2024 18:35

The grind is real, it’s lots of work and a drain on your very soul sometimes (much of the time). It does get better as they get older and they need you a little bit less.

Kids are very different as well, they have their own personalities, they are not blank slates, some kids are definitely more of a handful and impervious to parenting techniques than others.

I had hoped I would be a more loving and patient mum but I’m afraid I’m not. I feel like I have so much to do tbh. However still lots of hugs and love etc but patient earth mother I am not.

Also small children are insanely boring, if it were exciting more men would have been racing to share parental leave.

LittleMy77 · 23/07/2024 18:22

MsCactus · 22/07/2024 23:12

Genuine question for you (and other mums who hated the baby years) why did you give up work?!?

I love spending time with my toddler, but I work full time because I love my job too and want to progress. I think most people would go a little stir crazy being with their toddler constantly as a sahp.

If you hate it, why not go back to work after a short mat leave? Why did you decide to give up work?

I went back to work after 6 months (we lived outside the UK) did a year back at work and then left to be a SAHM for a couple of years.

DH and I worked 50+ hour weeks and he traveled a lot, often overnight so that constant juggle with inevitable kid sickness from nursery, unforgiving bosses, long hours in nursery plus a long commute for us both and no local support network made it really really hard. Wfh and / or part time wasn't really a thing then, and the jobs we had meant we were tied to a specific area

DH and I kicked around different scenarios and decided on this jointly. It was financially motivated, and as the lower earner it made sense for me to stop work.

We've actually swung the other way now, and DH took sabbatical, never went back and trained as a TA and it's now me who does the long hours and travel

TheYearOfSmallThings · 23/07/2024 18:21

ClickClack300 · 23/07/2024 17:35

I don’t @TheYearOfSmallThings was trying to invalidate or mock anything. She was just illustrating that not all techniques work for all children. You were honest with your approach and she’s been honest with hers.

Thanks! I was wondering what I said?!

TheYearOfSmallThings · 23/07/2024 18:21

FlyingHorses · 23/07/2024 17:24

Yeah tbf I’ve been really lucky as DS has slept 12hrs straight through since he was (painlessly) born. I also didn’t need to potty train him as he never really needed nappies, just took himself to the toilet when he started walking at 3 weeks old. I didn’t need to have a routine either, just have literally done whatever I want and he’s gone with the flow, even taught himself makaton which was a shock. Out of nowhere, he started speaking fluently at 4 months old, and he’s never once cried apart from briefly when he was born. Been an absolute piece of cake 🙄

Honestly I’ve been nothing but supportive of the OP. I think it’s extraordinary how women do this to each other. Someone seems to be doing ok so let’s diminish that in some way, invalidate it, mock it. I have said nothing snide about anyone’s parenting at all, and yet here I am having successes belittled (which as a woman with dwarfism is something I’ve dealt with a lot in my life, pun intended). The OP literally tagged me asking me questions which I answered kindly and without snark or judgment.

Enjoy your children, and your day.

A strangely angry response to my comment?!

ClickClack300 · 23/07/2024 17:35

FlyingHorses · 23/07/2024 17:24

Yeah tbf I’ve been really lucky as DS has slept 12hrs straight through since he was (painlessly) born. I also didn’t need to potty train him as he never really needed nappies, just took himself to the toilet when he started walking at 3 weeks old. I didn’t need to have a routine either, just have literally done whatever I want and he’s gone with the flow, even taught himself makaton which was a shock. Out of nowhere, he started speaking fluently at 4 months old, and he’s never once cried apart from briefly when he was born. Been an absolute piece of cake 🙄

Honestly I’ve been nothing but supportive of the OP. I think it’s extraordinary how women do this to each other. Someone seems to be doing ok so let’s diminish that in some way, invalidate it, mock it. I have said nothing snide about anyone’s parenting at all, and yet here I am having successes belittled (which as a woman with dwarfism is something I’ve dealt with a lot in my life, pun intended). The OP literally tagged me asking me questions which I answered kindly and without snark or judgment.

Enjoy your children, and your day.

I don’t @TheYearOfSmallThings was trying to invalidate or mock anything. She was just illustrating that not all techniques work for all children. You were honest with your approach and she’s been honest with hers.

FlyingHorses · 23/07/2024 17:24

TheYearOfSmallThings · 23/07/2024 16:45

My child isn't even ND but he wouldn't have taken in a single word of that lovely calm little speech. It wouldn't have been audible anyway over the noise he would be making.

Yeah tbf I’ve been really lucky as DS has slept 12hrs straight through since he was (painlessly) born. I also didn’t need to potty train him as he never really needed nappies, just took himself to the toilet when he started walking at 3 weeks old. I didn’t need to have a routine either, just have literally done whatever I want and he’s gone with the flow, even taught himself makaton which was a shock. Out of nowhere, he started speaking fluently at 4 months old, and he’s never once cried apart from briefly when he was born. Been an absolute piece of cake 🙄

Honestly I’ve been nothing but supportive of the OP. I think it’s extraordinary how women do this to each other. Someone seems to be doing ok so let’s diminish that in some way, invalidate it, mock it. I have said nothing snide about anyone’s parenting at all, and yet here I am having successes belittled (which as a woman with dwarfism is something I’ve dealt with a lot in my life, pun intended). The OP literally tagged me asking me questions which I answered kindly and without snark or judgment.

Enjoy your children, and your day.

ClickClack300 · 23/07/2024 17:03

neverbeenskiing · 23/07/2024 16:03

I honestly take great satisfaction in getting to his level and super-calmly saying “You clearly feel really upset right now, that must feel horrible, how can we make your body and mind calmer? I’m here when you’re ready for a hug/want to read a book/I’m going to play with this train and when you’re ready to join me you can” etc and 99% of the time it works after 2-3min

I'm sorry, but as a Mum of two ND children I couldn't help but chuckle at this.

If my children were so easy that this was all it took to to regulate their emotions then I'd probably be loving every minute of Motherhood too!!

You sound like a great Mum and I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade, but I think it's important to remember we're not all in the same boat.

Nailed it!

TheYearOfSmallThings · 23/07/2024 16:45

neverbeenskiing · 23/07/2024 16:03

I honestly take great satisfaction in getting to his level and super-calmly saying “You clearly feel really upset right now, that must feel horrible, how can we make your body and mind calmer? I’m here when you’re ready for a hug/want to read a book/I’m going to play with this train and when you’re ready to join me you can” etc and 99% of the time it works after 2-3min

I'm sorry, but as a Mum of two ND children I couldn't help but chuckle at this.

If my children were so easy that this was all it took to to regulate their emotions then I'd probably be loving every minute of Motherhood too!!

You sound like a great Mum and I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade, but I think it's important to remember we're not all in the same boat.

My child isn't even ND but he wouldn't have taken in a single word of that lovely calm little speech. It wouldn't have been audible anyway over the noise he would be making.

MsCactus · 23/07/2024 16:14

Despair1 · 23/07/2024 14:47

Spot on and you have lots of support. Huge difference

I have support from my DH - but he works full-time, long hours, and we have no family around (parents abroad etc).

So no I am not a single parent, but I wouldn't say we have loads (or any) family support outside of me and DH

neverbeenskiing · 23/07/2024 16:03

I honestly take great satisfaction in getting to his level and super-calmly saying “You clearly feel really upset right now, that must feel horrible, how can we make your body and mind calmer? I’m here when you’re ready for a hug/want to read a book/I’m going to play with this train and when you’re ready to join me you can” etc and 99% of the time it works after 2-3min

I'm sorry, but as a Mum of two ND children I couldn't help but chuckle at this.

If my children were so easy that this was all it took to to regulate their emotions then I'd probably be loving every minute of Motherhood too!!

You sound like a great Mum and I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade, but I think it's important to remember we're not all in the same boat.

neverbeenskiing · 23/07/2024 15:50

LuckySantangelo35 · 23/07/2024 10:55

As it’s so incredibly hard why do so many people put themselves through it again? Or a third time? Or even fourth?

why go through such hardship all over again?

why?! Genuinely curious!

For me personally, my first DC started asking for a sibling and I was already getting worn down by friends and relatives continually asking when I was going to have another, how I'd regret it if I didn't as I wasn't getting any younger etc. I also knew DH very much wanted a second. He never pressured me at all, in fact he tried to pretend he wasn't that bothered but I knew different. As many pp have said, it does get easier so when my first was 3.5 years old I finally felt like I was coping and I suppose my hormones tricked me into looking back on the baby and toddler years with rose tinted glasses so I decided to go ahead and have another. I definitely wouldn't have more than two though.

FlakyPanda · 23/07/2024 14:54

I often feel this way, it is relentless sometimes and I have 2 DS, a good and helpful husband, a career and friends but „time off/out“ just makes me feel guilty. My perspective changed a bit now they are 4 &7, it seems easier. I hate when people tell me the little years pass so fast and I’ll regret it in the future, this does not stop it being difficult in the moment.

Despair1 · 23/07/2024 14:50

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 23/07/2024 12:08

I had five, very close together. I thought it would be easier to get the 'small child' parenting stage over and done with, and all of them close in age made it easier to manage (no trying to find something that would entertain a twelve year old and also keep a two year old busy).
Then my marriage broke up when the eldest was nine and the youngest two. And my life was hell. It hadn't been great before, my XH expected me to do everything with the kids while he worked and 'rested'. I was desperately unhappy for a long while. It got easier once it was just me and the kids - then I had four teenagers simultaneously and life was hell again. Now they are all adult and I am me again, living alone with all the time in the world for myself, and kids who take me on holiday, out for dinner and are just a delight.
But I would not relive their growing up years for anything.

Lovely that you had a happy ending after all those years of hard work and single parenthood to 5!

Despair1 · 23/07/2024 14:47

Rainbowsponge · 23/07/2024 12:38

If you work 4 days a week and get ‘loads of time to yourself’ that’s very likely why you find it easier

Spot on and you have lots of support. Huge difference

Despair1 · 23/07/2024 14:44

Starryeyed543 · 22/07/2024 20:32

I really feel you with this one and I feel like fucking awful parent. Most of the time I just want to scream or cry. I don't even think she particularly likes me either tbh

You are not alone. Don't beat yourself up. Take care

Mrsdyna · 23/07/2024 14:36

And this is why I'm determined to be a hands on grandma. We raised ours without family help and it was so hard. I don't want my kids to go through it alone and I can have great fun and long breaks in between helping out too.

ClickClack300 · 23/07/2024 14:09

FlyingHorses · 23/07/2024 07:14

Not unkind at all, and I’m genuinely sad you feel like this, it must be horrible.
In the moment of a tantrum I stop my train of thought of “ahh here we go/this isn’t fun etc” and I think “here’s a challenge for you FlyingHorses, how can you help DS, what does he need, what is he trying to say? He must feel so unregulated and upset to do this, can you be the calm?” And then I honestly take great satisfaction in getting to his level and super-calmly saying “You clearly feel really upset right now, that must feel horrible, how can we make your body and mind calmer? I’m here when you’re ready for a hug/want to read a book/I’m going to play with this train and when you’re ready to join me you can” etc and 99% of the time it works after 2-3min. I feel like a hero lol, and so proud I’ve honed the ability to be zen when others aren’t. It’s taken lots of practising and doesn’t come 100% naturally but yes I do enjoy having the ability to do that and reap the benefits of a happy kid.

When playing with duplo/pretending to be a pirate etc I practise mindfulness of being in the moment. I go back to childhood in a way, and it’s simple joy of building something, making something, and teaching him new words, skills, seeing his little brain working fascinates me. There are lots of things I can’t do anymore that I used to love, but there’ll be a time I can do them again. DS is genuinely so much better than any book/hobby/experience I can think of and I’ve travelled, lived abroad, had lots of hobbies etc but nothing compares to him. He is this little creature I made and I’m challenged with loving and caring for him no matter what, and being able to do that makes some feel like a superhero. He is the best, funniest little person and our adventures are my favourite way to spend my time.
I truly hope you get there too as it’s a great place to be, but it doesn’t happen overnight. Best wishes.

I agree with some of what you say, but I think some children are easier than others in that they are more chilled out, laid back, more placid, easier to distract etc…. I’m not suggesting you’re parenting skills aren’t great because you sound fab, however I do think it’s not as cut and dry to think that all children will react exactly the same way with the same parenting techniques and achieve exactly the same results.

I think it’s a mix of nature vs nurture and some children will be easier from day dot regardless. If someone has a high needs toddler it’s understandable that they would find it more challenging.