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My Dad expects me to help him at his work during the summer holidays

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alwaysonreply · 22/07/2024 15:49

I am in my mid 20's and I am a supply teacher who lives at home with my parents. My Dad is very insistent on the fact that the school holidays for me are not holidays but that I am unemployed because I do not paid in the holidays, my Dad is self employed and runs a business and has told me he expects me to help him out free of charge during the holidays some days because I am now unemployed until September.

I want to make clear that I pay rent to my parents and can afford to pay the same amount of rent during the periods when I am not working and getting paid?

I suspect I have ASD and part of my problem is I hate confrontation and I am not very good confident at putting my views across especially like someone like my Dad who I love and he has many good qualities but he always thinks his opinion is right and everyone else is wrong.

What I am worried about is whether I am being a bit mean in feeling reluctant o do what my Dad has informed of his plan and I worry dude to my fear of confrontation I will just along with what he wants me to do so I keep him happy. My Dad is good at putting his views across inn a good way, he claims that because I am single and have no kids, that I will be very bored during the summer holidays and it will give me something to focus on and it will only be a couple of days a week still giving me plenty of time to chill out. However it feels like he is telling me what do and controlling my life when I am an adult. Do you think that's correct?

OP posts:
spriots · 22/07/2024 17:04

I don't think adult children get to just pay rent and that's that. It's up to their parents what contribution they want.

My parents did not want rent, because they didn't need the money, they wanted me to help out with various household things. Including covering the family business so that my dad could have a break.

I really don't see the big deal about that. When I no longer wanted to live as a household with my parents, I left.

AllstarFacilier · 22/07/2024 17:00

I suppose as you’re supply, you are unemployed until September, but if you can afford that then it’s fine. If he was concerned about your finances, he wouldn’t be telling you to work for free. If you wanted a job over summer, you would want paid. What type of work is he asking you to do?

azlazee1 · 22/07/2024 16:57

Minority voice here. I think you are being unreasonable. If he expected you to work full time or even most of the time, I would agree with you. But two days a week, when you're living in their home, guessing you have food, laundry, cleaning and other household functions done for you, well would it kill you to help him out? If you feel controlled, it's time to move on from parent living to getting your own place so you can adult for real.

Mirabai · 22/07/2024 16:57

Not unreasonable of him to ask, unreasonable not to pay you.

Call his bluff and get another temporary job.

SillyCilla · 22/07/2024 16:57

Ask him to waive your rent while you are working for him?
He can’t possibly think it’s acceptable for you to work for him for nothing!

BarHumbugs · 22/07/2024 16:56

Runbunny · 22/07/2024 16:52

Also teachers do get paid for the holidays. I suspect OP has a low paid support staff job and isn't paying much rent at all.

Supply teachers don't.

FourEyesGood · 22/07/2024 16:55

Runbunny · 22/07/2024 16:52

Also teachers do get paid for the holidays. I suspect OP has a low paid support staff job and isn't paying much rent at all.

She mentions in her OP that she’s been doing supply teaching work (i.e. she’s not under contract and isn’t being paid through the holidays).

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 16:55

Time to move out.

Runbunny · 22/07/2024 16:53

Catza · 22/07/2024 16:51

How's the family business financing her lifestyle? She is working, she is being paid a salary which is financing her lifestyle. We have no idea how much rent she is paying to her parents. She may well be financing their lifestyle.
Does your son do a few full days of work per week doing your IT or just a few quick tasks here and there? Because that would make a difference in whether or not he should be compensated.

I sold I don't ask a lot of him, but if OP was paying a lot towards the upkeep of her home, I think she'd have mentioned it.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/07/2024 16:53

As you have ASD I would have thought the summer holidays were your time to recover from being peopled out. My Dd has just come out of 2 years of ASD burnout. She would need that time.

Also as a teacher, l always had work to do in the holidays. Tell your dad that.

Bjorkdidit · 22/07/2024 16:53

saveforthat · 22/07/2024 16:18

I can't believe that you are a teacher so presumably fairly well educated and have to ask this. What will happen if you say no. Will he chuck you out?

You'd also hope that a teacher was assertive enough to push back on this. If the OP isn't confident enough to talk to her dad about this, how well does she deal with keeping 30 school pupils in line?

OP for a start, you're entitled to statutory holiday for around half the school holidays. So for a lot of them, you're not unemployed, you're on annual leave.

Plus wouldn't you need to be doing some CPD, applying for permanent teaching posts, looking for a contract for next year? Might you also be looking to go away on holiday?

But unless perhaps his business is really struggling and he needs an extra pair of hands, or you're benefitting by living very cheaply with your parents, there's no justification for him to expect you to work for free, so he either pays you or you don't do it.

Runbunny · 22/07/2024 16:52

ginasevern · 22/07/2024 16:46

I can't believe the OP is a teacher either. The post and articulation would suggest a teenager has written it.

Also teachers do get paid for the holidays. I suspect OP has a low paid support staff job and isn't paying much rent at all.

Zwicky · 22/07/2024 16:52

In which case, OP is still only responsible for 1/3 of that and there is nothing to suggest she is not doing that already

No. She could easily disabuse us if she felt like it. It’s just interesting that her dad expects a contribution in lieu if she’s already financially contributing and that the OP didn’t move out years ago if he’s such a pita and she gets no financial benefit from being there.

Catza · 22/07/2024 16:51

Runbunny · 22/07/2024 16:44

She doesn't, but the pay off is she's expected to give a few days a year to the family business, that is financing her lifestyle.

My son acts as IT support for my business. TBF I don't ask much if him, but I'd be mightily unimpressed if wanted paying, when he has it so cushy here.

How's the family business financing her lifestyle? She is working, she is being paid a salary which is financing her lifestyle. We have no idea how much rent she is paying to her parents. She may well be financing their lifestyle.
Does your son do a few full days of work per week doing your IT or just a few quick tasks here and there? Because that would make a difference in whether or not he should be compensated.

Aerialpigeon · 22/07/2024 16:51

Is it something like a family farm you will inherit one day?

BarHumbugs · 22/07/2024 16:49

Autistic parents can be real control freaks, move away as soon as you can. Until then, tell him if he wants to hire you he has to pay you your going rate or you will report him to HMRC.

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 22/07/2024 16:49

Don't get into a discussion with him in which he tells you how you feel and what you think and you struggle to argue against him. Try:
"no, I won't be doing that, because I don't want to"
"we've discussed this before and I don't have anything to add"
"please stop talking about this, you are making me unhappy"
"I won't have time because I'll be flat-hunting"

Catza · 22/07/2024 16:48

Zwicky · 22/07/2024 16:47

Her parents aren't paying "market rent"

They may well be paying market rent.

In which case, OP is still only responsible for 1/3 of that and there is nothing to suggest she is not doing that already.

Zwicky · 22/07/2024 16:47

Her parents aren't paying "market rent"

They may well be paying market rent.

Asthebellcurves · 22/07/2024 16:47

What is the compensation package? You can tell him you will get him an answer once you see the details of the benefits involved.

ginasevern · 22/07/2024 16:46

saveforthat · 22/07/2024 16:18

I can't believe that you are a teacher so presumably fairly well educated and have to ask this. What will happen if you say no. Will he chuck you out?

I can't believe the OP is a teacher either. The post and articulation would suggest a teenager has written it.

DoublePeonies · 22/07/2024 16:45

As a teen, not paying rent, I used to help Dad out in the school holidays - and got paid.
But I was only asked when they were desperate for an extra pair of hands.

You definitely need to "book" some holiday. And seriously consider moving out.

Runbunny · 22/07/2024 16:44

Catza · 22/07/2024 16:41

Why does she need to pay market rent? She is living at home with her parents and the only part she is responsible for is 1/3 of the total cost of running a household. Her parents aren't paying "market rent" for their own house but they are not required to "chip in" for free at the OP's school on their holidays.

She doesn't, but the pay off is she's expected to give a few days a year to the family business, that is financing her lifestyle.

My son acts as IT support for my business. TBF I don't ask much if him, but I'd be mightily unimpressed if wanted paying, when he has it so cushy here.

BobbyBiscuits · 22/07/2024 16:44

Even if you were unemployed, which you're not, why would that justify having to work for your dad, or anyone for free? Ridiculous.
If he wants you to work he can pay you a wage like anyone else. You're not his slave.
If I were you I'd try and move out ASAP. Your dad is clearly overbearing and not very helpful.
Could you afford a flat share with a mate? Or if not then just with randoms, it's better than being bugged by your dad all day long.

diktat · 22/07/2024 16:43

If you won't:

  • confront him and say no because the holidays are to recharge and prepare for next academic year and he will get his rent; or
  • move out

then lie through your teeth. Say the holidays are not actual holidays for staff and you need to prepare for next year's curriculum and classes.

I'm not a teacher so sorry if the terminology is wrong.

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