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Is anybody avoiding booking holidays to Spain due to the demonstrations?

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SmileLady · 22/07/2024 12:31

I added this on holidays board but no responses yet...

Just wanted some advice. I have only been to Spain 3 times in my 46 years. Times 1 &2 were educational trips when I was a student. But last year as a family we went to Mallorca for the first time in October and really enjoyed it. We stayed in a hotel, rented a car and did loads of day trips. The weather was terrible but we made the most of it.

We are a family of 7 (2 adult children, 3 younger kids, and us, of course). However, we are being put off by the demonstrations. We thought this time, we could maybe fly into Madrid, spend a few days in a B&B seeing the sites, and maybe get a train to Valencia and stay somewhere for a few days. Older children may not come straight with us, depending on work/sports.

However, DH now says we should respect the Spanish and not go if they don't want tourists.

Just to clarify, our ethnic origin is a very popular tourist island in the Med, and DH and I grew up working in the tourist industry, as did both our families. So I have seen the effect of limited tourism on the economy of an area.

Anyway, am I mad to still plan this trip?

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MrHarleyQuin · 22/07/2024 14:19

You may as well go where you want and don't worry about it.

whirlyhead · 22/07/2024 14:17

Mass tourism is becoming a problem all over the world. There aren't just protests in Spain, there have been in Amsterdam, Peru, areas in Mexico and Hawaii plus other countries and places (Venice for one) are complaining as well.

I imagine the protests will extend to other countries as well. So, you may as well just avoid travelling abroad and go to Cornwall and annoy the locals down there instead!!

missshilling · 22/07/2024 14:16

spirit20 · 22/07/2024 12:56

I wouldn't go. Partly because I don't want to go where I'm not wanted and partly because I'm not willing to give my money to a system that doesn't want me. I do understand where the locals are coming from however as so many areas have become unlivable for the locals due to tourism.

I'm a language teacher at a secondary school who had organised yearly trips to Barcelona or Valencia, but won't be organising them next year either as would be scared of having the kids caught up in an incident like where the locals started spraying tourists in Barcelona with water pistols.

Give the children water pistols so they can shoot back. I’m sure they would find it great fun.

diktat · 22/07/2024 14:11

spirit20 · 22/07/2024 12:56

I wouldn't go. Partly because I don't want to go where I'm not wanted and partly because I'm not willing to give my money to a system that doesn't want me. I do understand where the locals are coming from however as so many areas have become unlivable for the locals due to tourism.

I'm a language teacher at a secondary school who had organised yearly trips to Barcelona or Valencia, but won't be organising them next year either as would be scared of having the kids caught up in an incident like where the locals started spraying tourists in Barcelona with water pistols.

I think some people are in danger of making this crisis about themselves.

Catza · 22/07/2024 14:10

SmileLady · 22/07/2024 13:01

What happened in the airport?

I don't want any hassle as my youngest child is my niece whom I have custody of, and it's hard enough with all the paperwork as our names are all different.

I hear what people say about general grumpiness at airports but this is the airport I fly in and out of several times a year and it always was my second favourite airport. On this occasion though, the treatment of tourists was truly appalling.
They weren't just rude and grumpy to us, they were shouting at us. I got chased and shouted at by a security woman from a completely different aisle because I didn't take my shoes off (having confirmed with security in my aisle that I didn't need to). The woman behind me had rizzlas and tobacco on a tray and was asked is this was all she smoked and, when told "yes", security guard asked he "why should I believe you?".
The staff behaved as though they would be better suited to work in a concentration camp. I tried to log a complaint but the website made it extra difficult so, sadly, I had to move on.
I can deal with stony faces, long queues but not with shouting and deliberate humiliation. Tourists were clearly not welcome to come back and they got their point across very well indeed.

SmileLady · 22/07/2024 14:06

PassingStranger · 22/07/2024 14:03

Why are only Spain protesting?
What about Turkey, Croatia they have loads of holidays available and want people to come?

Also dont the people who protest go away anywhere?
What kind of life would they have if there were no tourism?

I wasn't sure, and I read up a bit more about it as this thread progressed. The main issue seems to be locals feeling priced out of the local housing market. This is obviously a real worry for a lot of people. Me and DH cant afford anything in our 'home country' now when we retire and we only got on the property ladder in the UK as we're key workers.
Theres loads of areas in the UK where holiday homes are being bought. I don't know what the solution is.

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PassingStranger · 22/07/2024 14:03

Why are only Spain protesting?
What about Turkey, Croatia they have loads of holidays available and want people to come?

Also dont the people who protest go away anywhere?
What kind of life would they have if there were no tourism?

MrHarleyQuin · 22/07/2024 14:01

DD1 went to Magaluf recently and there were no protests anywhere.

Julen7 · 22/07/2024 14:00

We are in Lanzarote now, have encountered no ill feeling at all.

ItsAlrightDarling · 22/07/2024 14:00

We’re currently in Valencia and haven’t experienced anything untoward.

Crikeyalmighty · 22/07/2024 13:57

I was in Majorca in June and had no issues at all and Palma airport allows you now to use the gates and passport stamped other side

Shaketherombooga · 22/07/2024 13:54

Tricky - I wouldn’t be worried about the protests but I do massively sympathise with the protesters. So on that basis will probably be avoiding Spain for the next couple of years until their laws change and help deal with the excessive tourism.
If they say they don’t want more tourist, then they don’t.
I have avoided Venice for the same reason. It’s being destroyed by tourism and I do not want to be a part of that - plus it sounds a bit like it would be an overcrowded nightmare anyway

SweetCreamandCaramel · 22/07/2024 13:54

Is Lanzarote affected by this? My sister is going there in 2 days time!!

FalderalderaldoSittingintheWater · 22/07/2024 13:52

Saltedbutter · 22/07/2024 13:13

(The only thing I did find is that the passport control staff were exceptionally unwelcoming and grumpy even compared to usual - but this may not be connected)

Passport control peeps are grumpy and unsmiling across the world. It is in their job description. They have their pay docked if they smile. Engaging in conversation with a tourist is a sackable offence
Worst of all, they are tested to the limit every shift by their passport office counterparts who make sure everyone's passport photo is so ugly, passport controllers have to stick forks in their legs to make sure they don't laugh (see above).

socks1107 · 22/07/2024 13:51

We were in a Spanish city last month and had no issues. There was a protest going on outside the the town hall but we just avoided it and everyone was very welcoming

SmileLady · 22/07/2024 13:49

LlynTegid · 22/07/2024 13:13

If you are staying in a hotel, yes I think you should go. What I think you should not do, be it Spain or anywhere else, is Air BnB or similar short term lets. A hotel does not deny a person a place to live or price them out, and probably is in use year round.

Barcelona was considering restricting short term lets, I hope they did or do, and everywhere else follows suit.

Thanks for this. However, how do the demonstrators know which tourists are staying in B&Bs and Hotels instead of private rentals?

And how can they be certain that the people they are squirting with water are tourists? Honestly, having grown up in a tourism economy, I find this madness as countries are so mixed now.

I think my DH is right, maybe look at somewhere else.

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HeChokedOnAChorizo · 22/07/2024 13:41

I normally go to the Canaries every couple of years but i am not going back due to the protests, looking at Greece and Italy. Probably be good to try somewhere new.

SmileLady · 22/07/2024 13:32

I can definitely see both sides of the debate. Maybe we will look at Italy instead as we've never bene there.

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SalviaDivinorum · 22/07/2024 13:31

We won't be going.

I don't want to be squirted with water and yelled at when having dinner (and spending money in their local economy)

halava · 22/07/2024 13:24

Regarding immigration officers at passport control, I try to remember that we are on holiday and in a good mood, they are doing an essential job at Border Control. Yes I have encountered stony faced officers in many places (not just Spain), but I still say Hello in whatever language I need for that country, and smile. Doesn't cost me anything and TBH if I was sitting behind a screen looking at god awful mugshots all day long I think I'd probably go a little grumpy too.

You only have to worry about immigration officers if they won't let you in, or have a query on your length of stay (Brexit) etc.

SmileLady · 22/07/2024 13:17

Thanks all. I always book B&B's and hotels. I cannot be bothered by cleaning up after myself when I'm on holiday!

However, I rent a villa when we go back 'home' as that's easier with friends and family visiting.

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LlynTegid · 22/07/2024 13:13

If you are staying in a hotel, yes I think you should go. What I think you should not do, be it Spain or anywhere else, is Air BnB or similar short term lets. A hotel does not deny a person a place to live or price them out, and probably is in use year round.

Barcelona was considering restricting short term lets, I hope they did or do, and everywhere else follows suit.

Saltedbutter · 22/07/2024 13:13

(The only thing I did find is that the passport control staff were exceptionally unwelcoming and grumpy even compared to usual - but this may not be connected)

Saltedbutter · 22/07/2024 13:12

I’ve been to Spain (/the islands of) 2 or 3 times this year and will no doubt go a few more times before the year is out. I’ve not encountered any anti-tourist attitudes whatsoever. In fact, when I’ve chatted with staff in restaurants they’ve expressed that the tourists do need to keep coming.

Surf2Live · 22/07/2024 13:11

I'm currently in a small town on the Atlantic coast in the Galicia region. I've been in Spain about 3 weeks now. I have not encountered any protests or problems whatsoever. I do speak some Spanish though (lived in Central America for 4 years) so maybe that helps. Also, I drove here down from France so have not used any airports. The largest towns I've visited were Gijón and A Coruňa, no reasonable sized cities. Maybe that's one method to avoid protests / problems?

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