To wonder if a lot of the Just Stop Oil protesters are not very nice people on a personal level

Quite often we see protesters, JSO,ER, climate this and that as a group of people who have zero respect for the rest of the public, so from wrecking works of art to glueing themselves to roads and buildings, non violence protests that often turn violent when you get the extreme elements. The activists see all the suffering on the rest of us and choose to join them. So they are a constitutionally trouble causing group who respect nobody which is why they come across this way, imo.

Tough. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

You're right. I'll stop reading the posts on here, and then there's no risk of me rising to the bait again.
Anyway, if you speak to your friend who's in jail, please let her know that many of us think the sentences are ridiculously unjust, and that we're very sympathetic, whether we agree with their tactics or not.
Take care 💚

I wouldn't bother, honestly. These people are showing who they are, and it's embarrassing for them now.

They are morons who along with many of their fellow protesters seem to be completely misjudging the public moods appetite for such direct action. Not all of the National Gallery's collection is behind glass and lobbing soup about could easily damage other paintings that are not protected. I doubt those concerned are exactly experts in preservation of works of art, prehistoric monuments or other objects they target so simply dismissing it as 'its only a bit of washable powder paint' is another moot point.

That's even less nice 😔

That really isn't very nice 😔

I don't agree with the action you mentioned, but tbf to JSO, I think they just use washable powder paint and soup etc. Also they know paintings are protected by glass. No permanent damage would be done.
I think they're trying to make the point that human (and other species) life is more important, and with climate change, many millions, or even billions, of human lives, and those of most other species, are at risk.
I do completely agree with them on those points.

If I was having to step over them on my way to the plane I would accidentally on purpose find my shoe or bag would made contact. "Sorrrrreeeee"

JSO cretins are at Gatwick airport stopping people from going through departures. Sorry but I hope they get hurt.

I used to work around the corner from the National Gallery and have a soft spot for the place as I spent many a happy lunchtime mooching around the place. When JSO threw paint over the Sunflowers I was so angry, it was such a futile childish gesture and cultural vandalism and any sympathy I may have had pretty much went out the window.

I don't understand why the activists haven't been sued for stopping ambulances. Isn't there some law saying that it is illegal to prevent firetrucks and ambulances from doing their jobs?

I think any kind of activism attracts some people who care less about the cause and more about the fight.

They're angry people who want a 'legitimate' outlet for their anger. They enjoy harming people or causing chaos and pick a cause where they feel their otherwise unacceptable behaviour is justified in some way.

Whilst on holiday visiting galleries we were asked to leave drinks at reception. Jso throw things at art= unacceptable. I say this as someone who thinks we need oil alternatives.
My friend is lovely and used to protest with them but no longer agrees with their methods.

That may be the case but I am always surprised how lacking in media saviness some of their spokespeople are when invariably the tabloids end up digging up old social media posts of them on long haul gap year destinations (Indigo Rumberlow). Sure, between said trip and joining JSO they may have had a Damascene moment and become fully signed up to living a carbon free life but all the public see is yet another plummy voiced public school type being a hypocrite. As mentioned before the optics are not good.

That's not been my experience with Greenpeace or XR at all. Most really do try to walk the talk. I don't know any JSO activists. But, I reckon they are genuinely trying to care for the Earth and her inhabitants.

I’m sure most are big hypocrites in their private life

Good points, yes often lacking significantly in real life

Definitely. Worrying that people think it's OK to be so unpleasant when they can't be identified.
Maybe they forget they're talking about real human beings with real feelings? Though they wouldn't like it if it was them. If everyone remembered the principle of 'do unto others, as you'd have them do unto you' the world of online forums would be a much better place.

Could you give examples?
I'm a woman and a feminist, and an environmentalist.
I've not spent time with JSO. But, was very involved with Greenpeace for a few years; and was always treated with the utmost respect as a woman.
I'd be interested to learn what you experienced.

It is unjust when protesters get a longer sentence than those causing the problem, yes.

Repeatedly breaking the law and finally getting jail time (and nowhere near the maximum sentence that their crime for which they were convicted and sentenced to carried) is 'unjust' now. What a travesty indeed!

Having spent much time amongst activist/hippie types, I can tell you there is a deep misogyny that runs through this group.

Anonymity certainly helps fuel the vitriol