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To worry for Kamala Harris - woman, half black, half Asian, married to a Jewish man

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Whenwillitgetwarm · 22/07/2024 11:26

I really really hope her and her family have the strongest mental resilience for the racism, misogyny and anti-semitism which will come towards her and them, just for the crime of running for president.

Yes she’s been a bit of a wallflower and we haven’t seen much of her whilst VP but maybe that will change now she’s out on her own. She’s had a successful career as a lawyer and seems nice.

Personally I’m going to avoid listening/watching American politics in the run up to the election as I think I’d be too anxious. Many people seem to treat politics like a football rivalry these days. But if she were to win, it would be so inspiring for so many girls around the world.

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BruFord · 22/07/2024 20:39

Trump will refuse to debate against her because he knows she’d wipe the floor with him.

@MrsSkylerWhite I said that to DH and DD earlier today, I’d really love to see them debate. She doesn’t even need to be the most skilled debater, she just needs to be a voice of sanity compared with his rants, 😂

I genuinely wish that the American system included something similar to Prime Mister’s Question Time, it’s important for leaders to be able to defend and explain their actions.

WildLemur · 22/07/2024 20:37

BruceAndNosh · 22/07/2024 20:30

Laura Loomer (who is batshit crazy) but has a big following is spouting unspeakable things about KH on twiX and Musk is letting her do it

Laura Loomer is such a disgusting excuse for a human being. YABU for reminding me that she exists.

VividQuoter · 22/07/2024 20:35

I think the same. Americans vote for the glitz, so British did, when they voted for Boris

Mirabai · 22/07/2024 20:31

Pouche · 22/07/2024 20:29

Hmm I’m half Indian also. I find this stance really patronising personally. I know this offends some people. But that is how I feel. My brown (ish) skin makes you feel sorry for me? Please. I worry about the ignorant!

UK born for context

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I’m part Indian too. Never would I ever stand for president in the US though with a Jewish husband as the US is full of racist loons.

BruceAndNosh · 22/07/2024 20:30

Laura Loomer (who is batshit crazy) but has a big following is spouting unspeakable things about KH on twiX and Musk is letting her do it

Pouche · 22/07/2024 20:29

Hmm I’m half Indian also. I find this stance really patronising personally. I know this offends some people. But that is how I feel. My brown (ish) skin makes you feel sorry for me? Please. I worry about the ignorant!

UK born for context

GingerPirate · 22/07/2024 20:27

Parker231 · 22/07/2024 20:22

Why do you think that ? Trump is appalling

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I think being appalling won't stop him from becoming the next President...

yesmen · 22/07/2024 20:25

yully · 22/07/2024 17:18

Polls are saying Michelle Obama could beat Trump.

I think Americans would vote for a black woman. But not Harris! And not Clinton either.

Like it or not, American presidential politics is extremely personality-driven. Harris is perceived as being odd, unintelligent and unserious. Clinton was perceived as arrogant. I would not be surprised to learn that Michelle Obama is perceived as kind yet stateswoman-like.

Clinton won the vote by three million.

Not small.

She lost the electoral college.

That is why Trump became president.

But - Amerca voted by a majority for a female president.

Goldenbear · 22/07/2024 20:24

blueberryforest · 22/07/2024 12:33

I've never understood the obsession with having the first of the various different 'identity groups' in political office. If it happens because the politician is the best one trying for the job, that's wonderful, but too often they're pushed on us simply because of their race, sex, or other similar trait that shouldn't come into the question at all.

Harris isn't popular among most Americans I know, but the reasons people object to her have nothing to do with her sex, race, or the fact that her husband is Jewish (something I wasn't even aware of before reading it here, tbh). She leaves much to be desired in the matters that count.

I’m British so maybe I don’t get the Finer detail but what exactly has Trump got to offer in terms of actual policies. What are the ‘matters that count’ that he is so great at?

WildLemur · 22/07/2024 20:22

popthepopcorns · 22/07/2024 20:20

She isn't confirmed as the candidate yet, is she? Obama was very pointed about not mentioning her in his tweets about Biden.

I think she's all but confirmed. All the other big names you'd have thought may be in the running have endorsed her, as have most senior party figures.

Parker231 · 22/07/2024 20:22

GingerPirate · 22/07/2024 19:54

Oh, OP, she's not to win.
Donald Trump is.

Why do you think that ? Trump is appalling

WildLemur · 22/07/2024 20:21

To add re Kamala as a debater- I would be unsurprised if Trump pulls out of any future debates. I think he'd be scared to go up against her, one on one.

popthepopcorns · 22/07/2024 20:20

She isn't confirmed as the candidate yet, is she? Obama was very pointed about not mentioning her in his tweets about Biden.

WildLemur · 22/07/2024 20:17

Sausagenbacon · 22/07/2024 19:31

How many of you have actually heard her debate? From what I've heard of her, she's not impressive.
Plus, for those thinking woman=pro-women, she's very much TWAW.

I think she's a good debater. She beat Pence (himself no slouch) quite handily in the VP debates. She did struggle to gain traction in the 2019 Dem leadership debates but that was a crowded field in which she wasn't the obvious first choice for either wing of the party.

SandandSky · 22/07/2024 19:56

I know what you mean - my first thought was “they’ll eat her alive”

so many people are going to hate on her in can see it… for really stupid reasons too

GingerPirate · 22/07/2024 19:54

Oh, OP, she's not to win.
Donald Trump is.

Countrylife2002 · 22/07/2024 19:33

Sausagenbacon · 22/07/2024 19:31

How many of you have actually heard her debate? From what I've heard of her, she's not impressive.
Plus, for those thinking woman=pro-women, she's very much TWAW.

She is TWAW but that’s nothing compared to what is going to hit the world (and particularly US women) if Trump wins.

And I have heard she is massively impressive. Just held back by Biden.

Countrylife2002 · 22/07/2024 19:32

@WildLemur yes I think she can feasibly do it too, especially if she can pick a running mate for prime electoral advantage. Nothing can go wrong though, and she needs to take no prisoners now and go for it - no soft soaping. Forget Biden.

Sausagenbacon · 22/07/2024 19:31

How many of you have actually heard her debate? From what I've heard of her, she's not impressive.
Plus, for those thinking woman=pro-women, she's very much TWAW.

WildLemur · 22/07/2024 19:30

Countrylife2002 · 22/07/2024 19:19

They won’t vote for a woman. Even Condeleeza Ride has said this. It’s a sexist society first, then racist.

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I think that's overblown.

Clinton was about 80,000 votes (accross 3 swing states) away from a win and handily won the popular vote.

She was an unpopular candidate with a lot of baggage (some of it unfair, some self-inflicted).

And against the background of the gutting of abortion rights, being a woman probably carries more political advantage now than it has in other recent cycles.

I don't think she's the favorite (largely because of the boost the assassination attempt has been to the Trump campaign) but I do think Kamala has a path to victory.

Countrylife2002 · 22/07/2024 19:22

I personally hope she comes out full on about women. What’s about to hit the US if she doesn’t win brings Gilead to mind. JD Vance is even more terrifying than Trump. No abortions, full stop. And women should stay with abusive husbands. Harris needs to tell women to wake up.

Countrylife2002 · 22/07/2024 19:19

susiedaisy1912 · 22/07/2024 12:17

And yet when Obama ran for office the African-American population of America came out in their millions to vote for him.

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They won’t vote for a woman. Even Condeleeza Ride has said this. It’s a sexist society first, then racist.

WildLemur · 22/07/2024 19:18

Mayorq · 22/07/2024 18:37

Now she's been called a crazy cat lady who isn't qualified to be president because she never had kids by trumps running mate on that preppy nazi tuckers show.

So she's definitely been the victim misogynistic abuse today

Geez, I've just seen that Vance doesn't think childless people should be allowed to vote.

How Trump is even competitive, let alone the favorite, is so bewildering.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 22/07/2024 18:52

KatiesMumWoof · 22/07/2024 12:32

@yully

god I hope you're wrong

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You won't be happy for a black woman to become leader of the opposition? Why is that?

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