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To worry for Kamala Harris - woman, half black, half Asian, married to a Jewish man

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Whenwillitgetwarm · 22/07/2024 11:26

I really really hope her and her family have the strongest mental resilience for the racism, misogyny and anti-semitism which will come towards her and them, just for the crime of running for president.

Yes she’s been a bit of a wallflower and we haven’t seen much of her whilst VP but maybe that will change now she’s out on her own. She’s had a successful career as a lawyer and seems nice.

Personally I’m going to avoid listening/watching American politics in the run up to the election as I think I’d be too anxious. Many people seem to treat politics like a football rivalry these days. But if she were to win, it would be so inspiring for so many girls around the world.

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LaeralSilverhand · 23/07/2024 10:26

SoreAndTired1 · 23/07/2024 08:41

YANBU I worry now too, especially with how women are treated in America. Well not just America, but world-wide, although America seems particularly virently misogynist. Btw she is half black and half Indian. 0 Asian in her.

In the UK, "Asian" refers to people from the Indian subcontinent i.e. of Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan heritage.

Anniegetyourgun · 23/07/2024 10:14

"she's in the grip of the panglobal secret alien paedo lizard people who are conspiring to subjugate the world"

Well that just goes with being a Democrat anyway. Proof: support from Clintons. Check her cellar! Does she like pizza?

(Yeah um, I am joking actually. You have to spell it out these days because it's not as obvious as you might hope.)

DarkandStormyNightie · 23/07/2024 09:05

To add, as a former prosecutor she will have faced many very credible death threats just trying to do her job. I think she's no stranger to what's ahead.

DarkandStormyNightie · 23/07/2024 09:03

Tinylittleunicorn · 23/07/2024 08:50

With the people who are already fanatical about him maybe, but they are going to turn out and vote for him anyway.

I think the focus of the Democrats' campaign should be to get people who think it doesn't matter, or who have become resigned, or disillusioned to get behind them and show up to vote. A big target for them is the women's rights vote.

I agree. Trump supporters will always vote for Trump, that's a given and largely irrelevant because that's not her target audience.

She needs to go after independent swing voters, moderate Republicans and the female vote. This is where the election will be decided.

Prosecutor Vs Convicted Felon, love how they're now framing that.

Tinylittleunicorn · 23/07/2024 08:51

powershowerforanhour · 23/07/2024 08:27

"her background is problematic. Namely, she had an affair with the mayor of San Fran which is apparently why she got the prosecutor job."

Apparent to whom? Here's Snopes' conclusion:
www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamala-harris-affair-willie-brown/

"Her run for nomination included a manifesto which was Marxist in nature."
Isn't reds under the bed scaremongering a bit outdated by about 60 years?

Ok, so far we've got:
She slept her way to the top (slutty woman!)
She's a giggly incompetent unserious woman (silly woman!)
She's a dirty nasty woman who slept with somebody else's husband and is an alcoholic*(bad woman!)
She's a crazy bitter barren cat lady who is irrelevant and should be viewed with deep suspicion because she doesn't have children
(hag woman!)
She's a token box ticking diversity hire with no talent who would probably be stacking shelves at WalMart if she was a white man
(paraphrasing)
She's a commie (ah the nostalgia)
Anything else? She's married to a Jewish man so perhaps that means she's in the grip of the panglobal secret alien paedo lizard people who are conspiring to subjugate the world. Or something.

*no idea what this rumour is based on, she probably got tiddly on white wine spritzers at a beach party in her 20s but hey let's throw that in

You left out "and she's faced no misogyny at all"

Tinylittleunicorn · 23/07/2024 08:50

daisychain01 · 23/07/2024 03:07

The more vile and threatening he is, out in the open, the better. The best possible thing would be if he can be baited into threatening to sexually assault her

unfortunately this will boost Trump's popularity even more.

With the people who are already fanatical about him maybe, but they are going to turn out and vote for him anyway.

I think the focus of the Democrats' campaign should be to get people who think it doesn't matter, or who have become resigned, or disillusioned to get behind them and show up to vote. A big target for them is the women's rights vote.

powershowerforanhour · 23/07/2024 08:47

In answer to the OP- yes she is going to to get a brutal amount of hatred thrown at her if she gets the top job. I watched a News Agents podcast and they said Barack Obama used to get 30 death threats / day. Expect double this plus all the torture rape- death threats which pretty much every woman on telly from Mary Beard to Holly Willoughby to Saffie Osborne gets.
She'll probably get even more than Diane Abbott gets. They'll have to have extra office space at the White House for everyone sifting though the shit.

SoreAndTired1 · 23/07/2024 08:41

YANBU I worry now too, especially with how women are treated in America. Well not just America, but world-wide, although America seems particularly virently misogynist. Btw she is half black and half Indian. 0 Asian in her.

DarkandStormyNightie · 23/07/2024 08:39

Just seen her speech yesterday, wow! she came out swinging. About time.

Love how she brought out her experiences as a prosecutor and how she's dealt with sexual abusers and fraudsters before. That she knows exactly Donald Trump's type as she's dealt with his kind before.

I think she's going to be just fine 🙂

History is being made people, sit back and enjoy the moment.

ViciousCurrentBun · 23/07/2024 08:37

She is not a wall flower she is currently vice president and whilst I’m sure she has at some point had to endure some racism and sexism in her world I bet she does not let it define her. If you do that you fold in on yourself and become a victim and not a survivor. I’m mixed race and it’s a mentality that is to be avoided. I also find white people seem to do a lot of hand wringing about this, just stop with white guilt it’s actually unhelpful and creates division in a different way to racists but it’s still there.

powershowerforanhour · 23/07/2024 08:30

Oh and,
She's Not As Good As (looks around for another black female comparison, doesn't matter that they are not a politician and not running for the nomination ) Michelle Obama.

powershowerforanhour · 23/07/2024 08:27

"her background is problematic. Namely, she had an affair with the mayor of San Fran which is apparently why she got the prosecutor job."

Apparent to whom? Here's Snopes' conclusion:
www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamala-harris-affair-willie-brown/

"Her run for nomination included a manifesto which was Marxist in nature."
Isn't reds under the bed scaremongering a bit outdated by about 60 years?

Ok, so far we've got:
She slept her way to the top (slutty woman!)
She's a giggly incompetent unserious woman (silly woman!)
She's a dirty nasty woman who slept with somebody else's husband and is an alcoholic*(bad woman!)
She's a crazy bitter barren cat lady who is irrelevant and should be viewed with deep suspicion because she doesn't have children
(hag woman!)
She's a token box ticking diversity hire with no talent who would probably be stacking shelves at WalMart if she was a white man
(paraphrasing)
She's a commie (ah the nostalgia)
Anything else? She's married to a Jewish man so perhaps that means she's in the grip of the panglobal secret alien paedo lizard people who are conspiring to subjugate the world. Or something.

*no idea what this rumour is based on, she probably got tiddly on white wine spritzers at a beach party in her 20s but hey let's throw that in

Krampers · 23/07/2024 04:40

Momtotwokids · 23/07/2024 03:01

Do you people not have your own country to worry about? Lets just see if our democratic party wants her to run.

Yet here you are on a predominant UK forum.

daisychain01 · 23/07/2024 03:09

Momtotwokids · 23/07/2024 03:01

Do you people not have your own country to worry about? Lets just see if our democratic party wants her to run.

What a strange attitude, but then again there are large swathes of US citizens who don't know where the UK is, so I can well believe it's an alien concept to care about global politics.

daisychain01 · 23/07/2024 03:07

The more vile and threatening he is, out in the open, the better. The best possible thing would be if he can be baited into threatening to sexually assault her

unfortunately this will boost Trump's popularity even more.

Momtotwokids · 23/07/2024 03:01

Do you people not have your own country to worry about? Lets just see if our democratic party wants her to run.

WildLemur · 23/07/2024 02:48

I would be amazed if Trump agrees to debate Harris. Already looks like he's laying the groundwork to wriggle out (saying it should be moved to Fox News).

Callmemel · 23/07/2024 02:46

CurlewKate · 22/07/2024 15:20

@Northernparent68 "
"she hasn’t been the victim of racism or misogyny so far, so there’s no reason to suppose that will change."

You are joking, right?

Absolutely. It's going to be a long 100 days.

On the plus side, she'll wipe the floor with Trump in the debates.

WildLemur · 23/07/2024 02:03

I thought she spoke really well today.

It won't be easy but I think she can do it.

Tinylittleunicorn · 23/07/2024 01:37

Trump is an insecure narcissist who can barely control his own behaviour and speech. He's literally verbally abused his own supporters in front of a crowd because he can't resist the power trip.

In a campaign against him, he should be baited. She should wind him up, make him angry, get him to say some truly horrible misogynistic shit. If he won't debate her, she should call him a coward and insult his virility. The more vile and threatening he is, out in the open, the better. The best possible thing would be if he can be baited into threatening to sexually assault her. She needs to hold her head up high, project strength, confidence, defiance and actually a bit of meanness - I think that's what will appeal to swing voters. That's what many admire about Trump - he's a "straight talker" (as if, they just mean he's rude) and he appraises himself highly.

Though she is a woman and dark skinned, she has advantages. She has the experience of a long legal and political career behind her - yet she looks young, attractive and healthy and particularly so compared to Trump. If she keeps her mouth closed when she smiles, and avoids laughing - she can appear stateswoman-like. The newspapers will run out of photos to print of her giggling if she takes care / is trained. I can't see the democrats running a better candidate because of the difficulties they may have transferring campaign funds. She should choose a right wing white male for VP, not Newsom who is seen to have failed badly on crime in CA (from what I read).

Edit: Above all else, and quite separate to the candidate, the democrats need to encourage and facilitate voters to vote. They need a hopeful campaign that gets people to go out and be a part of something, a part of saving American democracy. What they don't need to do is a lot of hand wringing about how Trump is inevitable and they shoulda/woulda/coulda bla bla bla. Only a minority want Trump. But they're a minority that votes. Voter suppression will be the tactic of the Republicans.

^
At least that is what I feel from the little I understand of American politics. It is such a worrying time though.

KenAdams · 23/07/2024 00:50

OneTC · 22/07/2024 12:11

Heard Nigel Farage on LBC this morning saying he didn't think people would vote for a "black African woman"

He's such a fucking revolting specimen, worse than his NF name sakes

Edited

As much as it pains me to stick up for him, I hate people misquoting others to prove a point. Especially with him, he says enough shit that he doesnt need any misquoting.

He didn't say that did he? He said he can't see the Dems voting a black African woman OUT, not that US voters wouldn't vote her IN.

KenAdams · 23/07/2024 00:47

ilovemoney · 22/07/2024 17:17

She’s very mediocre, her sex and race have advantaged her in her career above her capabilities. If she were white and male she just wouldn’t be where she is. She isn’t a good speaker and seems to regularly get her arse handed to her. She can’t keep staff and is rumoured to be a bully. Just saying.

And this is why I don't declare my true heritage on forms, so I can't be accused of shit like this.

I don't think Kamala will win though. If she picks Kelly she might get closer to Trump in the polls but the damage is done now with Biden taking so long to step aside. I strongly suspect this is the reason he kept her in the shadows for her entire Vice Presidency - he didn't want the competition.

I assumed she'd been picked so Biden could retire two years in for health reasons and they'd get a woman elected through the back door but that didn't happen. Having a woman leader isn't even progressive any more, it's happening in lots of places, we don't need it to happen in the US to show the rest of the world, we already know!

poetryandwine · 22/07/2024 23:51

Aintnosupermum · 22/07/2024 12:38

This election…either you vote for the democrats or against Trump.

VP Harris has not had a strong term and her background is problematic. Namely, she had an affair with the mayor of San Fran which is apparently why she got the prosecutor job. Her run for nomination included a manifesto which was Marxist in nature.

She isn’t my preferred candidate and it would be a vote against Trump rather than a vote for the democrats. I’d prefer to vote for the democrats. Let’s see what happens in the next week. Mike Bloomberg…please stand up.

Kamala Harris won elections, first as San Fransisco District Attorney then as California Attorney General. As a CA state political analyst said today in the NY Times, these jobs are usually Republican territory.

It is really difficult to associate winning the popular vote with one’s love life, as far as I can see.

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 22/07/2024 23:43

ThatMauveSnake · 22/07/2024 23:42

Batshit.

Brace yourself, we are going to see a lot of batshit.

ThatMauveSnake · 22/07/2024 23:42

thisisasurvivor · 22/07/2024 23:38

You worry about killer Kamala?

She is a fcking war criminal

Her and genocide Joe

Quite the legacy

Batshit.

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