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To worry for Kamala Harris - woman, half black, half Asian, married to a Jewish man

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Whenwillitgetwarm · 22/07/2024 11:26

I really really hope her and her family have the strongest mental resilience for the racism, misogyny and anti-semitism which will come towards her and them, just for the crime of running for president.

Yes she’s been a bit of a wallflower and we haven’t seen much of her whilst VP but maybe that will change now she’s out on her own. She’s had a successful career as a lawyer and seems nice.

Personally I’m going to avoid listening/watching American politics in the run up to the election as I think I’d be too anxious. Many people seem to treat politics like a football rivalry these days. But if she were to win, it would be so inspiring for so many girls around the world.

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SoreAndTired1 · 23/07/2024 16:33

Sausagenbacon · 23/07/2024 13:31

And it's virulently. HTH

Yes, I am aware of that. I had two words in my mind and what I wrote wasn't what I had in my mind. I blame in on typing faster than my brain.

SoreAndTired1 · 23/07/2024 16:30

Sausagenbacon · 23/07/2024 13:30

. Well not just America, but world-wide, although America seems particularly virently misogynist.
What an ignorant post.
Have you been to the USA? Or anywhere outside of Europe?

Are you honestly telling me that you don't believe America is misogynist? Really?

Would you like me to list the ways American men can be misogynistic? Maybe just watch JD Vance's speeches, for a start. Then there's Project 25. Then there is their view on abortion. There there is... etc.

CloudywMeatballs · 23/07/2024 16:23

@SoreAndTired1 Have you looked at a map recently? India is most definitely in Asia.

@xxSideshowAuntSallyxx 3 million more people voted for Hillary than for Trump in 2016. He won because of the electoral college system. But it's hard to see how you can claim that Americans won't vote for a woman president.

BruceAndNosh · 23/07/2024 16:22

Bucees · 23/07/2024 16:04

More incompetant than a convicted criminal? or man with dementia?

Donald Trump is both of those things

WildLemur · 23/07/2024 16:20

popthepopcorns · 23/07/2024 16:08

Hillary is an incredibly divisive figure though.

Yup. She was heavily smeared over Benghazi and the "her emails" line of attack, coupled with the associated FBI investigation (reopened just a week or so ahead of the election) turned a lot of Americans off her.

Personally, I think she lacked a bit in charisma too.

OneTC · 23/07/2024 16:11

SoreAndTired1 · 23/07/2024 13:27

That's strange. They're Middle Eastern or Arabic everywhere else. It would be like calling a Swedish person an African, that's how much sense calling Middle Easterners Asian makes. What would you call actual Asians - ie Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese, Korean etc, then?

Jesus fucking Christ

popthepopcorns · 23/07/2024 16:08

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 23/07/2024 15:57

She won't get in, as the USA won't vote for a woman president, not yet anyway. Hillary couldn't get voted in, and they haven't moved that much further on.

Honestly, they'll vote Trump in again. If they had a man running against Trump, he would have a much harder time getting reelected

Hillary is an incredibly divisive figure though.

Bucees · 23/07/2024 16:04

LifeExperience · 22/07/2024 23:06

There are good reasons not to support Harris that don't involve racism or misogyny. Trump's already up 11 points over her. That translates into a popular vote win and an electoral college landslide.

The American people know Kamala. They don't like her because she's incompetent, not because she's a woman of color, and it's an insult that the Democrats allowed her to get as far as she has.

More incompetant than a convicted criminal? or man with dementia?

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 23/07/2024 15:57

She won't get in, as the USA won't vote for a woman president, not yet anyway. Hillary couldn't get voted in, and they haven't moved that much further on.

Honestly, they'll vote Trump in again. If they had a man running against Trump, he would have a much harder time getting reelected

FindThatThing · 23/07/2024 15:56

ThatMauveSnake · 22/07/2024 23:32

Trump’s coalition also includes those “Jews will not replace us” folk.

It’s a broad church of arseholes.

Oh and let’s not forget about the Jewish space lasers.

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Many, very likely most, Trump supporters are racist and islamaphobes, who’ll happily vote Trump just so that Israel can kill as many Palestinians / muslims as possible.
Have you seen how happy they have been about the genocide happening.

Granted Biden and Kamala both support this genocide as well.

thisisasurvivor · 23/07/2024 15:32

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poetryandwine · 23/07/2024 14:59

thisisasurvivor · 23/07/2024 14:56

@ThatMauveSnake exactly

She is batshit 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Such literacy. Why do you say this?

thisisasurvivor · 23/07/2024 14:56

@ThatMauveSnake exactly

She is batshit 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

poetryandwine · 23/07/2024 14:48

Motomum23 · 23/07/2024 13:42

She doesn't seem able to explain anything beyond the way you would communicate to an over excited toddler with little understanding of the world - I don't care what her ethnicity or colour she is a complete moron.

You may or may not care for KH. That’s fine. But she has been elected District Attorney of San Fransisco and Attorney General of CA (which would be in the G7 ranking ahead of Britain economically if it were a country) then Senator whilst riding on no one’s coat tails.

Many people obviously like her communications style and the work she has done in those jobs. Perhaps she is not a moron after all.

LaeralSilverhand · 23/07/2024 14:33

SoreAndTired1 · 23/07/2024 13:27

That's strange. They're Middle Eastern or Arabic everywhere else. It would be like calling a Swedish person an African, that's how much sense calling Middle Easterners Asian makes. What would you call actual Asians - ie Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese, Korean etc, then?

People from the Indian subcontinent are not in any sense "Middle Eastern or Arabic" - what an utterly bizarre statement - literally no-one thinks this, let alone "everywhere else." In fact in the Middle East (and in Africa), the usage of "Asian" is the same as the British usage.

What you refer to as "actual Asians" would generally be termed "East Asian" in the UK, although many people would still use the somewhat outdated term "oriental".

You might want to take a look at a map at some point to find out what Asia actually is - it's a much bigger part of the world than you appear to think it is.

BruFord · 23/07/2024 14:01

@crackofdoom yes, where I live in the US, people of Indian or Pakistani descent generally refer to themselves as South Asian. Presumably because those countries are in South Asia, which is pretty vast. 🤷

crackofdoom · 23/07/2024 13:50

SoreAndTired1 · 23/07/2024 13:27

That's strange. They're Middle Eastern or Arabic everywhere else. It would be like calling a Swedish person an African, that's how much sense calling Middle Easterners Asian makes. What would you call actual Asians - ie Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese, Korean etc, then?

Ahem. The Indian subcontinent is pretty firmly located in Asia!! "Asian" was historically shorthand for Indian/Pakistani people in the UK, as they are by far the UK's largest non European immigrant population, although nowadays "South Asian" is used too. The blanket term in the UK for Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese etc people would be "East Asian".

The Middle East to me would be anywhere from the Eastern Mediterranean to the Arabian peninsula to Iran/Iraq to some of the southern ex Soviet States, although that's off the top of my head.

Motomum23 · 23/07/2024 13:42

She doesn't seem able to explain anything beyond the way you would communicate to an over excited toddler with little understanding of the world - I don't care what her ethnicity or colour she is a complete moron.

Sausagenbacon · 23/07/2024 13:31

And it's virulently. HTH

Sausagenbacon · 23/07/2024 13:30

. Well not just America, but world-wide, although America seems particularly virently misogynist.
What an ignorant post.
Have you been to the USA? Or anywhere outside of Europe?

SoreAndTired1 · 23/07/2024 13:27

LaeralSilverhand · 23/07/2024 10:26

In the UK, "Asian" refers to people from the Indian subcontinent i.e. of Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan heritage.

That's strange. They're Middle Eastern or Arabic everywhere else. It would be like calling a Swedish person an African, that's how much sense calling Middle Easterners Asian makes. What would you call actual Asians - ie Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese, Korean etc, then?

poetryandwine · 23/07/2024 11:57

Aintnosupermum · 22/07/2024 16:06

@Bucees

Per your post, her ex boyfriend confirmed their relationship. Personally I don’t care about anyone’s private life. Stuff happens to the best of us. I also do not care that her ex boyfriend might or might not have been involved in her being selected for her prosecutor role. What I judge her on is her run for nomination, her record as a prosecutor and her performance as VP. Two out of three I find lacking but she is a much better choice than Trump.

As I previously said, I’d prefer a nominee who I fully support and not just be voting to avoid another 4 years of Trump. My biggest concern is the democrats having a candidate people want to vote for as I fear the typical American voter will otherwise abstain from voting, which will result in Trump winning the election.

Again, Kamala Harris’ roles as both the San Fransisco DA and California Attorney General were won by city wide and state wide popular vote, respectively. Then of course she was elected to the Senate

The only major office to which she was in some sense appointed is VP

poetryandwine · 23/07/2024 11:36

It was reported yesterday in a Telegraph article posted on another thread that Trump is refusing to debate Harris. I think we all know why.

Nevertheless some of the misogyny on this thread has shocked me

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/07/2024 11:13

Appalonia · Yesterday 13:06
Have you actually listened to any of her speeches? Woman is practically incoherent at times. I think she would be a disaster!
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Oh well, watching her and Trump debate each other will be entertaining.”

Nonsense. Her speech last night was erudite, witty and sharp. She will wipe the floor with Trump. I very much doubt he’ll agree to debate because now, he’s the old man who goes off at a tangent.

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