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To worry for Kamala Harris - woman, half black, half Asian, married to a Jewish man

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Whenwillitgetwarm · 22/07/2024 11:26

I really really hope her and her family have the strongest mental resilience for the racism, misogyny and anti-semitism which will come towards her and them, just for the crime of running for president.

Yes she’s been a bit of a wallflower and we haven’t seen much of her whilst VP but maybe that will change now she’s out on her own. She’s had a successful career as a lawyer and seems nice.

Personally I’m going to avoid listening/watching American politics in the run up to the election as I think I’d be too anxious. Many people seem to treat politics like a football rivalry these days. But if she were to win, it would be so inspiring for so many girls around the world.

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BIossomtoes · 24/07/2024 23:10

She is also Kamala. Not Harris, but Kamala.

I refer to all politicians by their second name alone. She’s not my mate.

CJsGoldfish · 24/07/2024 23:03

powershowerforanhour · 23/07/2024 08:27

"her background is problematic. Namely, she had an affair with the mayor of San Fran which is apparently why she got the prosecutor job."

Apparent to whom? Here's Snopes' conclusion:
www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamala-harris-affair-willie-brown/

"Her run for nomination included a manifesto which was Marxist in nature."
Isn't reds under the bed scaremongering a bit outdated by about 60 years?

Ok, so far we've got:
She slept her way to the top (slutty woman!)
She's a giggly incompetent unserious woman (silly woman!)
She's a dirty nasty woman who slept with somebody else's husband and is an alcoholic*(bad woman!)
She's a crazy bitter barren cat lady who is irrelevant and should be viewed with deep suspicion because she doesn't have children
(hag woman!)
She's a token box ticking diversity hire with no talent who would probably be stacking shelves at WalMart if she was a white man
(paraphrasing)
She's a commie (ah the nostalgia)
Anything else? She's married to a Jewish man so perhaps that means she's in the grip of the panglobal secret alien paedo lizard people who are conspiring to subjugate the world. Or something.

*no idea what this rumour is based on, she probably got tiddly on white wine spritzers at a beach party in her 20s but hey let's throw that in

She is also Kamala. Not Harris, but Kamala.
Male politicians aren't addressed or discussed by their first name.
And no, it's not to make them more personable, as I heard some twat say, it's a dominance thing. Like the all star athlete with his surname written in big letters across his back.

She 'slept her way to the top' as an insult is so stupid. Taking the moral high ground and voting for a criminal who sleeps with prostitutes while married and trades women like used cars is laughable. We've all heard his vile tirades. He is openly racist, sexist, misogynistic. VP Harris had a brief relationship 30 years ago so, hey, lets take that non issue and see what we can do with it 🙄

HelenaTranscart · 24/07/2024 23:00

cardibach · 24/07/2024 21:57

DEI just suggests you are judging her on her race, I’m afraid.
Also it’s reap.

I'm making the opposite argument: colour, creed, gender, ability to spell etc. shouldn't factor in selection, but that's been the Democrat's policy - meritocracy has been abandoned in favour of prioritising 'oppressed' groups. It's DEI & Critical Theory 101.

And FWIW I think KemiB should be the next Tory leader because she's the best person for the job, not because she ticks some social justice warrior's boxes.

WildLemur · 24/07/2024 22:40

It's Fox News, though. They're quite willing to take the lawsuits that come with spreading lies - see the $787.5 million dollar settlement they paid Dominon Voting Systems after spreading lies about their voting machines - because their profits offset it.

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2024 22:34

Hope she sues for slander and defamation of character.

WildLemur · 24/07/2024 22:32

Geez, some guest on Fox Business (Fox News subsidiary) just accused Harris of getting to where she is by sucking dick (the original "hawk tuah" girl, was the phrase used).

The American right (the politicians and news channels, at least...I pity half of the voters) are beyond appalling.

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2024 22:03

Why anyone would think that a woman with a successful legal career isn’t capable of being president is beyond me. It’s strangely reminiscent of the criticism levelled at our PM during the election campaign.

cardibach · 24/07/2024 21:57

HelenaTranscart · 24/07/2024 21:37

KH won't win, not because she's a WOC, but because she is simply not up to the job. She's only VP because she ticks all the DEI boxes, so the Democrats are about to reep what they sow. If they'd selected a candidate on merit, they may have stood a chance against Trump, but oh no, it's got to be an 'oppressed and marginalised' person. Hell mend them, and God help us all when Trump gets in as a result.

DEI just suggests you are judging her on her race, I’m afraid.
Also it’s reap.

HelenaTranscart · 24/07/2024 21:37

KH won't win, not because she's a WOC, but because she is simply not up to the job. She's only VP because she ticks all the DEI boxes, so the Democrats are about to reep what they sow. If they'd selected a candidate on merit, they may have stood a chance against Trump, but oh no, it's got to be an 'oppressed and marginalised' person. Hell mend them, and God help us all when Trump gets in as a result.

BruFord · 24/07/2024 21:32

WildLemur · 24/07/2024 21:14

If it were true, perhaps, but it does not seem to be.

Though I wouldn't rule out something like it happening.

@WildLemur Yes, I saw that it’s just rumor.

@DuncinToffee’s post promoted me to conduct a “highly scientific” survey of DD (19) and her boyfriend (20). They say that Beyoncé would mainly appeal to Millennials (although Gen Z do like her) and TS to Gen Zer’s…,so joining forces in support of KH could potentially motivate two generations!

DuncinToffee · 24/07/2024 21:30

WildLemur · 24/07/2024 21:14

If it were true, perhaps, but it does not seem to be.

Though I wouldn't rule out something like it happening.

Ah, shame

Beyonce has given Kamala Harris permission to use her song ‘Freedom’ for her presidential campaign

WildLemur · 24/07/2024 21:14

If it were true, perhaps, but it does not seem to be.

Though I wouldn't rule out something like it happening.

Papyrophile · 24/07/2024 20:22

CustardCreams2 · 23/07/2024 22:20

She has achieved nothing whilst in office.

Her comments on the Israel-Gaza situation are concerning.

I am not pro- trump. But KH is really not up to the job. It’s worrying.

No Vice President ever achieves much in that job. It's an understudy role. Do it well, and be a safe pair of hands, standing in the wings in case the worst happens, and wait for history.

FWIW, I think KH will be better as a Presidential candidate now than she was four years ago. There are real issues, like reproductive rights and abortion, for her to get into. The VP was never going to stop the tide of migration across the Rio Grande given the poverty, joblessness, crime, violence and everything else bad south of the border. That is simply a wave of people moving for the hope of something better (or not worse) elsewhere.

Her career as a public attorney/prosecutor allows her scope to challenge Trump on his convictions. I would not elect a known felon: would you?

The person she chooses as a running mate will be a key component in her success/failure.

WildLemur · 24/07/2024 18:48

Sarah2891 · 24/07/2024 15:46

I really hope she wins, I didn't think she stood a chance at first but now I do.

She seems to be playing well with Gen Z which could be quite big as the Dems had been losing support from younger voters.

I'm confident she'll win the popular vote but I still think the electoral college makes her the underdog.

Sarah2891 · 24/07/2024 15:46

I really hope she wins, I didn't think she stood a chance at first but now I do.

Goldenbear · 24/07/2024 15:41

CustardCreams2 · 23/07/2024 22:20

She has achieved nothing whilst in office.

Her comments on the Israel-Gaza situation are concerning.

I am not pro- trump. But KH is really not up to the job. It’s worrying.

I can’t understand the rationale that pitches her not up for the job - she seems intelligent and very capable.

WildLemur · 24/07/2024 15:38

CurlewKate · 24/07/2024 15:34

@WildLemur " But she consistently comes across as having not a clue about anything."

I don't agree. I have so far seen her make two speeches since Biden withdrew. Both articulate. And there are many examples of her sounding as if she has many clues about lots of things-if we ignore the tacked together and manipulated clips.

That was a different poster, not me.

popthepopcorns · 24/07/2024 15:37

Are other posters seeing adverts on MN encouraging US voters abroad to vote in the election?

I'm guessing expats are more likely to vote for KH.

CurlewKate · 24/07/2024 15:34

@WildLemur " But she consistently comes across as having not a clue about anything."

I don't agree. I have so far seen her make two speeches since Biden withdrew. Both articulate. And there are many examples of her sounding as if she has many clues about lots of things-if we ignore the tacked together and manipulated clips.

popthepopcorns · 24/07/2024 14:57

Unfortunately, Harris appears to align with Biden on Gaza/ Israel.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/23/kamala-harris-israel-palestine-policy-election

But Trump would likely be even worse

www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/23/trump-would-be-the-worst-palestinians-react-to-us-presidential-race

BruFord · 24/07/2024 14:39

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2024 07:47

Biden is even older than the Boomer generation!

He’s not. He’s an early boomer born in 1945. Oh, please ignore me, hopefully my maths will improve after I’ve drunk my coffee. 🙈

Edited

He was born in November 1942, @BIossomtoes, he’s Silent Generation.

I can’t comment pre-coffee either. 😂

BIossomtoes · 24/07/2024 07:47

Biden is even older than the Boomer generation!

He’s not. He’s an early boomer born in 1945. Oh, please ignore me, hopefully my maths will improve after I’ve drunk my coffee. 🙈

SoreAndTired1 · 24/07/2024 04:56

CustardCreams2 · 23/07/2024 20:49

Her presidency would be awful.

I wonder how many of these youtube 'clips' are actually genuine. One of them made the news yesterday for extending her laugh at a press conference longer than what it actually was in reality in the original video. There is a lot of fuckery and video editing/manipulation going on, so I'd like to see the actual source news sites of the originals, instead of some 'YT clips' by a far rightist on a video clip site where every man and his dog can edit and upload their home made/home edited crap. Most of these videos are hoaxes or edited to look bad. From all the speeches I've seen of her live, she is a very compelling and gifted orator.

Overtheatlantic · 23/07/2024 22:34

Kamala Harris is hugely capable of being President. She doesn’t need to have done anything as vice president. Except to support the president, which she did. Her track record as the attorney general of California and her time as Joe Biden’s vp place her well. She’s not an intellectual lightweight as the Magas hope. And she’s certainly not a traitor.

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