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To worry for Kamala Harris - woman, half black, half Asian, married to a Jewish man

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Whenwillitgetwarm · 22/07/2024 11:26

I really really hope her and her family have the strongest mental resilience for the racism, misogyny and anti-semitism which will come towards her and them, just for the crime of running for president.

Yes she’s been a bit of a wallflower and we haven’t seen much of her whilst VP but maybe that will change now she’s out on her own. She’s had a successful career as a lawyer and seems nice.

Personally I’m going to avoid listening/watching American politics in the run up to the election as I think I’d be too anxious. Many people seem to treat politics like a football rivalry these days. But if she were to win, it would be so inspiring for so many girls around the world.

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Chatteringmagpie7 · 22/07/2024 15:00

OneTC · 22/07/2024 12:11

Heard Nigel Farage on LBC this morning saying he didn't think people would vote for a "black African woman"

He's such a fucking revolting specimen, worse than his NF name sakes

Edited

As depressing as that assessment is, I think he has a point.

x2boys · 22/07/2024 14:57

OneTC · 22/07/2024 12:11

Heard Nigel Farage on LBC this morning saying he didn't think people would vote for a "black African woman"

He's such a fucking revolting specimen, worse than his NF name sakes

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I don't think they will ei
either not because I'm racist but because they have never voted for a female president even when it was a choice between Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump,
And it took them long enough to vote in a male black president
Some parts of America cam be very racist and anti women.

AreYouShittingMe · 22/07/2024 14:33

@CutthroatDruTheViolent I think the issue is that NF describes Harris as African rather than American (thus proving how inherently racism he is).

Blackcats7 · 22/07/2024 14:32

Slightly a side issue but you would think Trump would support abortions as he would likely have a lot more women with offspring from his constant shagging around to pay off.

ExtraOnions · 22/07/2024 14:27

She will 100% be inundated by Racism, and Misogyny. The candidate on the other side is a “pussy grabbing” misogynist.. and look how maybe people support him.

The political system in the U.S is lost .. it is filled with corrupt, self-serving, narcissists. I put it in the same bracket at Russia & China.

Lavenderfields121 · 22/07/2024 14:22

This site seems to be inundated with people who abuse “anxiety” to make everything about themselves. It’s shameful.

Bucees · 22/07/2024 14:20

Aintnosupermum · 22/07/2024 13:02

@Bucees

I am stating the background issues undecided voters have with her candidacy. Personally I don’t care who she had a personal relationship with. If he promoted her above others because of their relationship that is for him to be accountable not her.

Personally, I find her too left wing for the American system. The country is so divided and we have never needed someone in the center more than now. The division is not good and I don’t think she is the right person to bring people together. I’d vote for her over Trump every single day of the week though but it would be a vote against Trump when I’d prefer to vote for the democrats.

So you have repeated something you have heard / been told - where is the proof?

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 22/07/2024 14:13

OneTC · 22/07/2024 12:11

Heard Nigel Farage on LBC this morning saying he didn't think people would vote for a "black African woman"

He's such a fucking revolting specimen, worse than his NF name sakes

Edited

He might be disgusting but I fear he's right.

America wouldn't vote a woman in, and a woman of colour? Get out of town. They'd rather have a convicted rapist.

Aintnosupermum · 22/07/2024 13:06

OurFlagMeansAfternoonTea · 22/07/2024 12:59

Before Biden picked Harris he announced that he would only consider a "woman of colour" for VP. He basically made it clear that he would be making a diversity hire so that he could show how progressive he was. Even if she were a great potential president (she isn't) he totally undermined her by making that statement. Now they are stuck with this completely unsuitable candidate.

It was awful that he said this. I would have understood if she had declined the appointment publicly but understand why she didn’t. It completely undermines her accomplishments which is so unfair.

Appalonia · 22/07/2024 13:06

Have you actually listened to any of her speeches? Woman is practically incoherent at times. I think she would be a disaster!

Oh well, watching her and Trump debate each other will be entertaining.

Aintnosupermum · 22/07/2024 13:02

@Bucees

I am stating the background issues undecided voters have with her candidacy. Personally I don’t care who she had a personal relationship with. If he promoted her above others because of their relationship that is for him to be accountable not her.

Personally, I find her too left wing for the American system. The country is so divided and we have never needed someone in the center more than now. The division is not good and I don’t think she is the right person to bring people together. I’d vote for her over Trump every single day of the week though but it would be a vote against Trump when I’d prefer to vote for the democrats.

OurFlagMeansAfternoonTea · 22/07/2024 12:59

Before Biden picked Harris he announced that he would only consider a "woman of colour" for VP. He basically made it clear that he would be making a diversity hire so that he could show how progressive he was. Even if she were a great potential president (she isn't) he totally undermined her by making that statement. Now they are stuck with this completely unsuitable candidate.

Bucees · 22/07/2024 12:54

Aintnosupermum · 22/07/2024 12:38

This election…either you vote for the democrats or against Trump.

VP Harris has not had a strong term and her background is problematic. Namely, she had an affair with the mayor of San Fran which is apparently why she got the prosecutor job. Her run for nomination included a manifesto which was Marxist in nature.

She isn’t my preferred candidate and it would be a vote against Trump rather than a vote for the democrats. I’d prefer to vote for the democrats. Let’s see what happens in the next week. Mike Bloomberg…please stand up.

Throughout her career, the vice president has been repeatedly forced to deny that her relationship with former San Francisco Willie Brown - 31 years her senior - was the main defining step in her political career. They are seen in 1995

While their relationship has often been described as an affair, Brown was separated from his wife Blanche Vitero for more than a decade when he and Harris, 59, dated in the mid-1990s.
Their steamy past resurfaced in January 2019, when Brown published an op-ed in the San Francisco Chronicle with the headline, 'Sure, I dated Kamala Harris. So what?'

Is this like her drinking problem, that I have not found anything on (I havent delved deep though)?

And still, even if she had an affair, thats still better than the racist sexist convicted on 34 counts criminal who is the other option

Whenwillitgetwarm · 22/07/2024 12:45

KatiesMumWoof · 22/07/2024 12:31

@OneTC

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

i think he's right on this

I thought she was an American of half black, half Indian parentage? …Goes of to check…just checked. She’s definitely half black, half Indian and an American. Not African.

Maybe someone needs to show Farage how to use an Atlas?

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OneTC · 22/07/2024 12:39

KatiesMumWoof · 22/07/2024 12:31

@OneTC

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

i think he's right on this

There was me thinking she's American

Aintnosupermum · 22/07/2024 12:38

This election…either you vote for the democrats or against Trump.

VP Harris has not had a strong term and her background is problematic. Namely, she had an affair with the mayor of San Fran which is apparently why she got the prosecutor job. Her run for nomination included a manifesto which was Marxist in nature.

She isn’t my preferred candidate and it would be a vote against Trump rather than a vote for the democrats. I’d prefer to vote for the democrats. Let’s see what happens in the next week. Mike Bloomberg…please stand up.

Sprinkle5 · 22/07/2024 12:37

blueberryforest · 22/07/2024 12:33

I've never understood the obsession with having the first of the various different 'identity groups' in political office. If it happens because the politician is the best one trying for the job, that's wonderful, but too often they're pushed on us simply because of their race, sex, or other similar trait that shouldn't come into the question at all.

Harris isn't popular among most Americans I know, but the reasons people object to her have nothing to do with her sex, race, or the fact that her husband is Jewish (something I wasn't even aware of before reading it here, tbh). She leaves much to be desired in the matters that count.

Why does she leave much to be desired in the matters that count?

Bucees · 22/07/2024 12:37

and it says so much about the country when they would rather have a convicted criminal in charge than a woman

Bucees · 22/07/2024 12:35

Northernparent68 · 22/07/2024 12:04

Yes YABU.

she hasn’t been the victim of racism or misogyny so far, so there’s no reason to suppose that will change.

her record as a DA and politician has been criticized, including by women and that is legitimate and not prejudice.

she hasn’t been the victim of racism or misogyny so far, so there’s no reason to suppose that will change.

I would put money on the both of these being completely incorrect
She most likely has been the victim of racism or misogyny as she is not white or male
and no reason to suppose that will change I think you are very naive if you dont think she will get more abuse and hate by standing

I would love for her to win!

blueberryforest · 22/07/2024 12:33

I've never understood the obsession with having the first of the various different 'identity groups' in political office. If it happens because the politician is the best one trying for the job, that's wonderful, but too often they're pushed on us simply because of their race, sex, or other similar trait that shouldn't come into the question at all.

Harris isn't popular among most Americans I know, but the reasons people object to her have nothing to do with her sex, race, or the fact that her husband is Jewish (something I wasn't even aware of before reading it here, tbh). She leaves much to be desired in the matters that count.

KatiesMumWoof · 22/07/2024 12:32

yully · 22/07/2024 12:31

OP, do you have the same concerns for Kemi Badenoch, who is expected to become leader of the opposition here?

I don't think Kamala Harris comes across well. I don't think she can beat Trump. Michelle Obama probably could, though.

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@yully

god I hope you're wrong

KatiesMumWoof · 22/07/2024 12:31

OneTC · 22/07/2024 12:11

Heard Nigel Farage on LBC this morning saying he didn't think people would vote for a "black African woman"

He's such a fucking revolting specimen, worse than his NF name sakes

Edited

@OneTC

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

i think he's right on this

yully · 22/07/2024 12:31

OP, do you have the same concerns for Kemi Badenoch, who is expected to become leader of the opposition here?

I don't think Kamala Harris comes across well. I don't think she can beat Trump. Michelle Obama probably could, though.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 22/07/2024 12:27

Yabu

Do all election campaigns make you anxious ?

Maybe you should look into her public profile before assuming that people will be “mean” because she’s a woman of colour. Criticising policy and decisions is fair play and she’s rightly not going to hide behind her identity. Her work should be judged against her predecessors and opponents and I doubt that she wants to be treated with kids gloves because she is a WOC. She will know first hand what campaigning is like and ai doubt that there’s any new criticisms of her that can be used against her because she’s done it before and has probably seen social media

I think that there’s no chance that she will win and that Trump is right to say that Harris will be easier to defeat than Biden.

Sausagenbacon · 22/07/2024 12:24

Who are you talking to?
The OP, and other posters who can only view a candidate through the lens of Identity

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