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Readytoevolve · 2024-07-22T09:21:13+00:00

It was a beautiful day as I sat outside my local coffee shop with my 2 children, drinking smoothies and soaking up the sunshine. Then BOOM, the table next to us lights up a cigarette and it blows our way. The day before we were lining the streets for a tractor run…. We had a front view and the kids are at the front. Then BOOM, a man behind us lights up just as it’s beginning and is breathing the smoke down on us. Why oh why is smoking allowed outside, and not just in designated smoking areas, where they can all sit and smoke together. It happens us all the time. Yes they’re entitled to do it, but is it right? Hell no. AIBU?

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Readytoevolve · 22/07/2024 13:25

TwattyMcFuckFace · 22/07/2024 13:15

Yes, especially in front of kids.

Not sure why the OP thinks it isn't? 👀

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Check out the sexual offences act 2003. Sex in public is not a criminal offence. It’s not really the done thing naturally but you can get done for public indecency… a different offence. But I mean… it could be argued in court that it’s not illegal, because it’s not stipulated.

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ClaudiaWankleman · 22/07/2024 13:24

Personally I'm really offended by the fact that a load of people got together to poison the general environment with greenhouse gases and CO as well as whatever is in that red diesel that makes it so smoky. It's completely out of the rest of the population's control but we'll have to breathe it in and suffer the global warming effects for years to come.

Tractor runs are a public health risk! Won't somebody think of the children?!

LawksALordyMyBottomsOnFire · 22/07/2024 13:24

Readytoevolve · 22/07/2024 13:18

Well let me break it down for you this way….

We made a decision to attend a tractor run, therefore accepted the diesel fume risk. It was our decision. (This is a really poor argument by the way but I’ll play along nonetheless)

The Ahole who stood behind us breathing down on us what not our decision, it was forced upon us and took away from a what should have been very fun experience.

When smokers let their smoke impact other people, it’s not the persons decision to allow it to happen. Given there is no legal protection we can’t say anything. Therefore we feel forced to cut our visit to a place short.

Passive smoking is a public health risk.

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Ahh ok

Good to know you'll allow your kids lungs to be filled with shit for fun, but not because a tiny bit of cigarette smoke is in the air behind them.

If only you all had the ability to walk away a bit?

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 22/07/2024 13:23

I don't smoke, but I happily sat by a smoker outside a coffee shop this morning so I could enjoy the sunshine. It's a choice isn't it? If you want to sit outside you might smell some cigarette smoke. It was blowing away quickly enough and it didn't bother me.

ClaudiaWankleman · 22/07/2024 13:21

Readytoevolve · 22/07/2024 13:18

Well let me break it down for you this way….

We made a decision to attend a tractor run, therefore accepted the diesel fume risk. It was our decision. (This is a really poor argument by the way but I’ll play along nonetheless)

The Ahole who stood behind us breathing down on us what not our decision, it was forced upon us and took away from a what should have been very fun experience.

When smokers let their smoke impact other people, it’s not the persons decision to allow it to happen. Given there is no legal protection we can’t say anything. Therefore we feel forced to cut our visit to a place short.

Passive smoking is a public health risk.

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Do you know how silly you sound?

Lincoln24 · 22/07/2024 13:19

I think you're bu, smoking is already restricted more in this country than almost anywhere in the world.

At a cafe, it's up to the owners what they allow - you should take it up with them if you want it banned at their outside tables.

In a big public space you have to put up with all kinds of behaviour from other people that you don't like, you just have to suck it up. Smoking is one of them.

I've never smoked btw, but it's also not something that bothers me much.

Snoken · 22/07/2024 13:19

I'm not a smoker but the irony of your kids standing right by the road to watch tractors go by whilst you are concerned about them inhaling toxic fumes is a little bit too obvious not to point out.

I don't mind getting a whiff of smoke every now and then. I live in a city and inhale traffic pollution daily. If I desperately wanted clean air I would not be around so many people.

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Readytoevolve · 22/07/2024 13:18

LawksALordyMyBottomsOnFire · 22/07/2024 13:13

So you lined your kids up to breath in diesel fumes from a load of tractors, but the cigarette smoke concerned you?

Well let me break it down for you this way….

We made a decision to attend a tractor run, therefore accepted the diesel fume risk. It was our decision. (This is a really poor argument by the way but I’ll play along nonetheless)

The Ahole who stood behind us breathing down on us what not our decision, it was forced upon us and took away from a what should have been very fun experience.

When smokers let their smoke impact other people, it’s not the persons decision to allow it to happen. Given there is no legal protection we can’t say anything. Therefore we feel forced to cut our visit to a place short.

Passive smoking is a public health risk.

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TwattyMcFuckFace · 22/07/2024 13:15

BIossomtoes · 22/07/2024 13:14

Technically it’s not illegal to have sex in public.

I think you’ll find it is.

Yes, especially in front of kids.

Not sure why the OP thinks it isn't? 👀

BIossomtoes · 22/07/2024 13:14

Technically it’s not illegal to have sex in public.

I think you’ll find it is.

LawksALordyMyBottomsOnFire · 22/07/2024 13:13

So you lined your kids up to breath in diesel fumes from a load of tractors, but the cigarette smoke concerned you?

Helloworld56 · 22/07/2024 13:12

Readytoevolve · 22/07/2024 11:48

it does. Research is developing on this. But I assure you, it is as bad if not worse than smoking. I know a person in their 40’s who cough up blood when they exercise now and put it completely down to vaping. Naturally it’s hard to prove. But doctors can come to no other explanations.

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Right then - so the doctors have examined every other possibility and have concluded that vaping is to blame? I don't believe this.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 22/07/2024 13:10

Lol at 'BOOM!"

Were they exploding joke cigarettes? 😁

ClaudiaWankleman · 22/07/2024 13:08

Readytoevolve · 22/07/2024 13:05

i appreciate this view point, but if there is passive smoking happening in the vicinity of my children, it’s just not ok, nor will it ever will be. The offenders are selfish twats.

if the same people started having sex beside kids in an outdoor public space where food is served, considering it’s a free country, it doesn’t make ok either. Technically it’s not illegal to have sex in public.

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If you are that concerned about your children passive smoking then it is your responsibility to move them out of the way. It's not the responsibility of a law-abiding third party.

lemonmeringueno3 · 22/07/2024 13:08

I am old enough to remember when it was ok to smoke on planes - back two rows only.

I have never smoked and always hated the smell. I still feel thrilled that it's banned indoors and you don't walk into a wall of smoke when you enter a bar or restaurant.

I suppose the next step is confining it to designated outdoor areas only and more places are doing this now so it is inevitable.

In the meantime, I don't mind too much if it is somewhere that allows me to move away but outdoor seating and queues are annoying yes.

SwannWay · 22/07/2024 13:08

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rainfordays · 22/07/2024 13:06

YANBU. Smoking is disgusting and anti-social, the smell is vile, plus it clings to people around the person smoking so you end up stinky through no fault of your own, and no smoker I know bothers to actually dispose of their butts in a bin, they just flick it onto the floor and leave it for someone else to pick up. If someone lit up next to me and I had small kids with me, I'd have zero issues in loudly calling them out on it. It costs nothing to be considerate of others around you and go somewhere else to smoke.

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Readytoevolve · 22/07/2024 13:05

ScholesPanda · 22/07/2024 13:01

I know it seems to be an increasingly rare point of view, but I'd say it's a free country, and you should stop trying to control what everyone else around you is doing. Even if (the horror) you don't like it! You're not the main character in everyone's life story!

i appreciate this view point, but if there is passive smoking happening in the vicinity of my children, it’s just not ok, nor will it ever will be. The offenders are selfish twats.

if the same people started having sex beside kids in an outdoor public space where food is served, considering it’s a free country, it doesn’t make ok either. Technically it’s not illegal to have sex in public.

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ClaudiaWankleman · 22/07/2024 13:05

You could have gone inside the shop - the smoker couldn't.

HowIrresponsible · 22/07/2024 13:03

CatsLikeBoxes · 22/07/2024 10:53

I hate it at bus stops. Especially when the smoker is often just holding the cigarette while the smoke (and smell) drifts over everyone & is hard to avoid

Exactly. I once asked a vaper (even worse imo) if they could stand down wind ay the bus stop and not blow it in everyone's faces.

Yanbu OP. It's a filthy habit and it should be banned in public..

Newgirls · 22/07/2024 13:02

I agree. I think smoking and vaping near other people is anti social.

ScholesPanda · 22/07/2024 13:01

I know it seems to be an increasingly rare point of view, but I'd say it's a free country, and you should stop trying to control what everyone else around you is doing. Even if (the horror) you don't like it! You're not the main character in everyone's life story!

SwannWay · 22/07/2024 13:00

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Spotto · 22/07/2024 12:59

Smoking is gross.

Smokers are the reason I don't feel able to sit on the outside tables of cafes with my children. So I always go inside. But it's happened to me a stupid amount of times now that I've been sat inside and then some idiot smoker decides to start smoking right by the doorway, or an open window in the summer, and fills the place with their vile fumes. So unbelievably selfish.

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Readytoevolve · 22/07/2024 12:57

@Klippityklopp people who post in AIBU also can have a sense of humour and find other peoples opinions funny.
it’s funny to me because it validates the difficulty people like me experience and the poor attitudes ( no fucks given) towards those impacted by such offenders.
Better to laugh than cry I say!

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