Smoking outside in populated public places.

Readytoevolve · 2024-07-22T09:21:13+00:00

It was a beautiful day as I sat outside my local coffee shop with my 2 children, drinking smoothies and soaking up the sunshine. Then BOOM, the table next to us lights up a cigarette and it blows our way. The day before we were lining the streets for a tractor run…. We had a front view and the kids are at the front. Then BOOM, a man behind us lights up just as it’s beginning and is breathing the smoke down on us. Why oh why is smoking allowed outside, and not just in designated smoking areas, where they can all sit and smoke together. It happens us all the time. Yes they’re entitled to do it, but is it right? Hell no. AIBU?

Whatjemimadid · 24/07/2024 23:47

Yes and vaping too. I have asthma and it can trigger attacks even outdoors. People did it when I was pregnant too and got all hostile when I said something. You can never say something no matter how politely. Some people are born selfish

FinalCeleryScheme · 24/07/2024 23:39

BlackForestCake · 24/07/2024 23:35

If there were a large number of people who made a habit of standing close to other people and deliberately farting freely and pungently, nobody would be defending them on here or saying “it's perfectly legal, move away if you don’t like it”.

That doesn't mean anyone is proposing to ban farting.

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Who do you know who vapes farts?

If I were you I’d have a word with them. Likely to be a sign of deeper issues, that.

BlackForestCake · 24/07/2024 23:35

If there were a large number of people who made a habit of standing close to other people and deliberately farting freely and pungently, nobody would be defending them on here or saying “it's perfectly legal, move away if you don’t like it”.

That doesn't mean anyone is proposing to ban farting.

Werweisswohin · 24/07/2024 06:53

FinalCeleryScheme · 24/07/2024 00:38

I’d be happy for smoking to be banned in more places.

But I do think the opposition to vaping is frankly weird. It’s like some people have become vehemently opposed to others inhaling altogether.

Some vapes smell, but that’s for about a second. No smell sticks to your clothes or hair. There’s no health issue for anyone nearby (there’s none for the vaper either, not that that’s anyone but the vaper’s business anyway). And there’s no fag butt litter.

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There is all the non-recyclable vape plastic though.
I'm all for vaping as a tool to stop smoking, I don't understand why folk would start vaping having never smoked.

FinalCeleryScheme · 24/07/2024 00:38

I’d be happy for smoking to be banned in more places.

But I do think the opposition to vaping is frankly weird. It’s like some people have become vehemently opposed to others inhaling altogether.

Some vapes smell, but that’s for about a second. No smell sticks to your clothes or hair. There’s no health issue for anyone nearby (there’s none for the vaper either, not that that’s anyone but the vaper’s business anyway). And there’s no fag butt litter.

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mummyrolling2014 · 24/07/2024 00:17

As an ex smoker yes smoking is disgusting and unhealthy and agree with where it should be done but don't wish there was a line drawn with the instant discrimination or judgement on smokers in general. When I was a smoker I was very private that no one outside my close circle knew I smoked. This was because I knew I would be instantly judged as a bad person by many. Those who found out were so shocked because I appear quite prim and proper, am always working out at the gym, and have a very 'respectable' job. To answer your question no you're not being unfair as I was very conscious not to smoke near anyone so but I know others are more addicted than I was. I was lucky I could control it and wait until I was alone. However, I don't get drunk or shout on the streets. I'm extremely polite and help out the local community. I don't cheat or hurt people and go out of my way to be kind to everyone - and yes I was the same as a smoker. But all this gets completely lost if some see you lighting up a cigarette.

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 18:38

Bunnyasmyname · 23/07/2024 17:54

I have to agree with @Dominoeffecter

Just because MN is full of the terminally offended, doesn't mean they are in the right!

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Good for you.
Not liking cigarette smoke does not equate to 'terminally offended', but sure, you jump to whatever conclusion makes you feel best.
Next.

Bunnyasmyname · 23/07/2024 17:54

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:46

You're telling me how you think it's coming across. That's not particularly meaningful.
Smoking is one of the most ridiculously stupid and selfish things a person can do. It's really quite funny the addicts suggesting other folk smoke, just showing how much it controls them. 🤣

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I have to agree with @Dominoeffecter

Just because MN is full of the terminally offended, doesn't mean they are in the right!

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 17:24

MikeRafone · 23/07/2024 14:45

It doesn't make it less vile when one stands next to me though.

go and stand else where or ask if they can stop, just asking - would you mind not smoking as its all blowing my way - they can of course say no - but they might say yes. If they get annoyed you just say - I only asked the question nicely please leave it there.

If I'm in a queue I can't stand elsewhere.

Greencustard · 23/07/2024 17:04

MeouwCat · 23/07/2024 16:33

Still a practising nicotine addict, then.

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Where did I say I wasn't? Do you think that's a gotcha? The clue was in my own words 'nicotine vaping salts'😂Did you honestly think I didn't know what I was vaping? Serious question. Did you think you knew and I didn't?

MeouwCat · 23/07/2024 16:33

Greencustard · 23/07/2024 14:45

Nicotine vaping salts got me off the cigs without even really trying. I was a smoker for a loooooong time and was dreading quitting but it really was quite easy. I had tried the older type vapes with no success at all, these salt liquids are amazing. I started at 20mg, now down to 11mg so next step is down to 5mg.

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Still a practising nicotine addict, then.

PenguinCounter · 23/07/2024 16:01

@Threewordseightletters I don't think it will have the effect you're hoping for.

Weed is a class b drug and people still smoke it in public

Nitrous is class C and I saw people using it in broad daylight at a policed town festival last weekend

Then there's also the cocaine regularly being used in pubs and clubs...

Though I do look forward to the day an adult has to ask another adult to buy them cigarettes

Threewordseightletters · 23/07/2024 15:18

I cannot wait for there to be more restrictions on smoking. Both second and third hand smoke provoke allergic reactions and I find the smell really nauseating. (It's got worse since peri so might be hormonal!) Very pleased new government is planning to increase the age people can buy cigarettes legally by a year each year until it is eventually illegal.

ObelixtheGaul · 23/07/2024 15:03

@blossom @Greencustard (sorry it says at Blossom, I pressed the wrong name and can't get rid of it). I have tried not to vape in case I just replace one thing for another, but will look into vaping salts, thank you.

ClaudiaWankleman · 23/07/2024 14:59

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:42

Have you not read the OP?

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Yes, have you? Cafes and streets exist everywhere.

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:54

<stampsfoot> WHATEVA

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:53

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:52

Sure.

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Another valid point 😉

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:52

InterIgnis · 23/07/2024 14:51

You and they can have a problem as much as you like. You can rant about selfishness and whatever as much as you like - that isn’t anyone else’s problem. Whether you approve or not of someone smoking where they legally are entitled to do so, is irrelevant and not something anyone is required to take the slightest bit of notice of.

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Sure.

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:52

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:50

It’s just the going on and on in the same vein, accusing anyone who is a bit more balanced of being a smoker 😁

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Sure.

InterIgnis · 23/07/2024 14:51

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:50

Eh?
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You and they can have a problem as much as you like. You can rant about selfishness and whatever as much as you like - that isn’t anyone else’s problem. Whether you approve or not of someone smoking where they legally are entitled to do so, is irrelevant and not something anyone is required to take the slightest bit of notice of.

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:50

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:49

Sure.
Having a valid view is 'worked up'. 🤔
Tschüss.

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It’s just the going on and on in the same vein, accusing anyone who is a bit more balanced of being a smoker 😁

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:50

InterIgnis · 23/07/2024 14:48

And oh well to that too. Their approval isn’t required any more than yours is.

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Eh?
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Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:49

Dominoeffecter · 23/07/2024 14:48

Nope, everyone knows your opinion, I’m neither a smoker or saying it’s not a valid one but yes you are coming over as worked up ☺️

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Sure.
Having a valid view is 'worked up'. 🤔
Tschüss.

InterIgnis · 23/07/2024 14:48

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:44

It's a problem for most people with any level of understanding regarding the effects of smoking.

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And oh well to that too. Their approval isn’t required any more than yours is.

Werweisswohin · 23/07/2024 14:48

HoorahhoorahTheyaregoingaway · 23/07/2024 14:47

Why? You would probably inhale more fumes from those tractors than you would a cigarette!

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Eh?
Tractors have value. They are doing a job.
Smoking has no point.