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To be concerned about DD?

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spiderplant7 · 21/07/2024 19:21

DD18 lives quietly, never goes to parties or does anything that other children her age do. My other children did, but she is as quiet as a mouse. She was quite shy until she was around 16, but now she goes out on her own, and might meet up with friends once a month or every couple months. Her idea of an outing is a trip to the hairdressers, a walk around various parks or her weekly church service. Maybe 2-3 times a week she goes out. She’s always been like this, never attending parties etc, the first she ever attended was at 17 and that has been her last too.

I’m worried she is wasting her youth just spending her time on her own. She enjoys cooking and baking, but she rarely spends time with her friends. I’ve tried to persuade her to go out more with them but she won’t listen, instead choosing to go out on her own. She’s never had a boyfriend and she’s never had a best friend like my other children have. It just seems awfully lonely, but she states she’s perfectly happy on her own. Everyone comments on how she’s a lovely and polite child, and if I’m being truthfully honest she has a very old fashioned view on the world, as she grew up idolising one of her grandmothers. I’m wondering if perhaps she doesn’t fit in, and that’s why she is so unsociable.

AIBU?

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CobaltQueen · 22/07/2024 18:08

The more I read, the more I see where other posters are coming from. You actually remind me a lot of my own mother. She has always wanted me to be a mini version of her. To think the same way, to feel how she feels, to adore the people she adores. It's made me massively resentful of her.
Your daughter is her OWN person with her OWN needs and likes. She doesn't have to be like you. She is not obliged to live how you want her to live as she is not you. Why can't you see that?
If you want to maintain a healthy relationship with her, let her be herself and stop forcing your ideals on her. She sounds lovely and you should be proud of her. I would feel so hurt if my mother came on here and wrote a post like that about me. I feel sorry for your daughter to be honest.

thesandwich · 22/07/2024 17:42

She could ask about volunteering opportunities at the museum to see if it’s the sort of life she’d like.
But she sounds just fine.

Jennyathemall · 22/07/2024 17:36

Your concerns are valid - you just want her to have a well rounded and fulfilling life. Hopefully university will be a positive influence on her.

Newhere5 · 22/07/2024 17:33

Rainbowsponge · 21/07/2024 19:29

I understand your concern. It’s all very well being this introverted while living with parents who look after & keep an eye on you, but what about when they’re no longer here?

I am this introverted. I have not lived with my parents over 20 years and I’m quite fine thank you

BonifaceBonanza · 22/07/2024 17:30

@spiderplant7 all your comments are written through the lens of what you think is important. She clearly doesn’t agree.
She isn’t lonely, she’s comfortable happy confident. She doesn’t need to be the same as anyone else.
Your idea of what constitutes “wasting her youth” is extremely narrow. Perhaps she thinks travelling and partying is wasteful?

WhatNoRaisins · 22/07/2024 17:25

If she's got plans for uni and aspirations for work I wouldn't worry too much. I think 18 can actually be a really awkward age, give it time, maybe she'll blossom later or maybe this is how she is.

It sounds like she is interacting with people just fine, getting on with people of different ages is a skill I wish I'd had at her age.

loropianalover · 22/07/2024 17:19

I think you’re over thinking it. She’s 18 and planning to go to uni in September. Her life is only beginning, she’s going to change and go through 101 more phases over the next 10 years. You don’t know how she expects to find a husband staying home making cookies - again, shes 18!

Shes the only one without a partner or child - seriously OP? So what? She’s got her family, accept her! She’s got several years of uni, jobs, etc. to get through. She will have a few boyfriends in time. I had no idea at 18 what job I’d like or how my life would turn out.

spiderplant7 · 22/07/2024 17:13

She doesn’t know what she will do. She loves our city’s museum and would love to work there, but I haven’t ever seen any jobs advertised. She loves history and wants to do it as a degree, but she used to want to be a midwife but said she would be too sensitive for it, which I agree, as she gets tearful easily. She suggested maybe the civil service one day if not a museum of some description. As for volunteering she used to volunteer for a charity and she is hoping to set up a Sunday school at her church. I just don’t want her to end up alone in the future, everyone else in our family has someone whether it be a child or a partner except for her, and we are all quite scattered across the country.

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averythinline · 22/07/2024 16:53

I think most partners are made via work...if thats a concern

My long term friends are all connected from work.different jobs/companies.. I don't have loads but they are good friends.. think quality over quantity....

If she's going to uni she may meet people there she clicks with.. theres all sorts of interests /socials at Uni .... Think there's an afternoon tea one at Exeter! As an example

I know noone from my school days now ... And not many even as a teen although socialsed a bit ...

Dh through friend at work too ..

Leave her to it, shes young yet and you sound quite fixed on what and how she should be....

KiwiJane504 · 22/07/2024 16:44

MonsteraMama · 21/07/2024 19:39

She sounds great. She's happily and comfortably her own person, how many 18 year olds can truly say that?

Agree with this.

There is nothing wrong with this - might be different if she was unhappy, lonely, didn't like her life, but she sounds very content.

Please don't give her a complex that her introverted ways are wrong or she needs to change. I'd feel reassured by this, knowing she was likely safe etc. let her be who she wants to be 😊

OddestSock · 22/07/2024 16:19

She sounds like me at that age. I didn’t party or socialise. I had a good group of friends in college but didn’t really see them outside of there. My mum was concerned i was going to drop out of university because I was so introverted.

I LOVED university, I loved having my independence and being able to be where I wanted to be, when I wanted to. I met likeminded people and we would hang out chatting in each other’s rooms or having a drink in the cafe or whatever. I was so comfortable and just wanted to spend time with people who I felt comfortable around.

I remember my university years fondly, I didn’t miss out by not drinking or partying. I joined clubs that I was interested in and had the best time.

I’m still very introverted, but happy to be that way.

KreedKafer · 22/07/2024 16:12

spiderplant7 · 22/07/2024 15:27

Maybe she will find her tribe. I can only hope she finds more friends at university. I think one of her problems is how sensitive she is. If she meets someone and they say something she doesn’t like, she’s unlikely to meet them again! That happened when I introduced her to one of my friend’s children. Hopefully she’ll meet likeminded people at university or I don’t know what she’ll do. Everyone else in our family is quite social except for her!

She doesn’t have to be like everyone else in your family. She’s happy as she is. Stop trying to mould her into someone she’s not. Stop trying to make her hang out with people she doesn’t actually like. Why would she have to get along with some random kid just because they happen to be the child of your friend? She has friends that she likes. It’s weird to be trying to engineer the social life of a teenager anyway; she’s not a five-year-old who needs you to set up play dates.

I guarantee you that your DD is fully aware that she isn’t the person you want her to be, and I guarantee you that it’s hurtful to her. So perhaps just let her live her life in the way that suits her, and love her for that, rather than despite it.

thesandwich · 22/07/2024 16:12

I would be much more focussed on what kind of career she is going to have. That is what builds lives and gives choices(and often a v good place to meet partners)
what are her plans post uni? There are loads of history grads every year. What transferrable skills has she developed? What work/ volunteering experience does she have- via church/ library/ community?

Nannyogg134 · 22/07/2024 16:04

MoveToParis · 21/07/2024 19:33

Mumsnet generally speaking has a very odd group of posters who think interacting voluntarily with other humans is somehow suspect of morally defective.

Of course an 18 year old should be out having the time of her live, having a ball, making lots of friends, some close, some just acquaintances but not stagnating baking at home.
we can recognize a boy gaming is wasting his precious youth. Your daughter’s life is better- but not much.

Absolute tosh, the OP describes a young woman who enjoys church, going for a walk, has friends (albeit older ones), and is hoping for university or full time work. Her hobbies/goals are realistic and take her out into the community. This is not the same as someone who cloisters themselves in one room for any reason (whether that's gaming or not). I am honestly shocked by anyone who feels this person has the wrong view on life just because they're not out partying with people they don't like.

KreedKafer · 22/07/2024 16:02

MoveToParis · 21/07/2024 23:41

I’m not your mate, so don’t presume to use that vile over-familiar term to me. Thanks.

I think the OP’s concerns come from a good place and maybe they will turn out to be unwarranted, but maybe she actually can see a broader picture.

Alone and lonely are different things completely, but devaluing friendships through lower participation in the friendship is a route to loneliness. Friendships take time to develop under to any circumstance , and deserve care and attention.

Different things make different people happy. Not everyone experiences loneliness in the way you do. Some people enjoy their own company and don’t have the same needs that you do, and don’t have to be moulded into your personal idea of what a ‘normal’ person is.

In any case, the OP says her adult daughter does have friends. She just doesn’t go to parties or hang out in a group of teenagers all the time, because that isn’t what she enjoys. She’s simply living her life in the way that suits her. She isn’t lonely and she probably never will be. There are millions of happy people out there who are exactly like her; they’re not withering away in isolation.

It’s pretty obvious from your comments that you’re exceptionally narrow-minded and that you don’t really understand people unless they are exactly like you. Your idea of ‘care and attention’ seems to be telling perfectly normal and happy adults that they are ‘stagnating’ and ‘wasting their lives’ because they prefer baking to parties, which sounds a lot more like ‘overbearing, ignorant and judgemental’ than ‘careful and attentive’.

Have a nice day, mate

Nannyogg134 · 22/07/2024 15:59

spiderplant7 · 22/07/2024 15:27

Maybe she will find her tribe. I can only hope she finds more friends at university. I think one of her problems is how sensitive she is. If she meets someone and they say something she doesn’t like, she’s unlikely to meet them again! That happened when I introduced her to one of my friend’s children. Hopefully she’ll meet likeminded people at university or I don’t know what she’ll do. Everyone else in our family is quite social except for her!

You keep implying that she isn't social, but she is? You've referred to her having friends several times, and that she goes to church. She's also open to the idea of university and leaves the house for the activities she enjoys- she is a social person. It's normal to want the best for your child and to hope they feel fulfilled, but it's worrying how much you want to mould her into a younger version of yourself or a copy of other family members. In 20 years she may not regret how she spent her youth, but you may regret the relationship you created between you.

spiderplant7 · 22/07/2024 15:27

Maybe she will find her tribe. I can only hope she finds more friends at university. I think one of her problems is how sensitive she is. If she meets someone and they say something she doesn’t like, she’s unlikely to meet them again! That happened when I introduced her to one of my friend’s children. Hopefully she’ll meet likeminded people at university or I don’t know what she’ll do. Everyone else in our family is quite social except for her!

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Persiancouscous · 22/07/2024 00:44

Some people are introverts and like their own company. As long as she's happy, leave her be

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/07/2024 00:41

I didn’t go out having a mad social life, @spiderplant7, or date a lot, and I still found a lovely man - we’ve been married nearly 32 years and have three sons, one daughter in law and a granddaughter.

A previous poster mentioned ‘finding her tribe’ - and this resonated with me. It may take your dd a while but I am sure she will find her tribe too - and she is far more likely to find that tribe, or a special someone, if she does the things that make her happy. If she pushes herself into a life that isn’t ‘her’, the people she will meet there will be people who do love that lifestyle - and won’t that make it hard for her to find someone on her wavelength?

spiderplant7 · 22/07/2024 00:20

I know she wants a family of her own one day, I just don’t know how she expects to find a husband by staying at home often. I know it likely does her well to have older friends for advice etc, but instead of going on day trips to the beach or markets etc with people her own age, she is going with people who are 40-60 from her church instead. They seem to be closest to her. Even then they only see her at church most weeks. She is hoping to study history at the local university come September, if she doesn’t get the grades then full time employment. I don’t want her to regret acting older than what she is in the future.

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MoveToParis · 22/07/2024 00:04

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/07/2024 23:49

Well, times change. Until very recently, your DD would have been held up as an exemplar of a ‘good woman’.

Perhaps she still is.

Do you mean to imply in that those who live differently are bad/not good.

or just that other people says things which you repeat- but aren’t prepared to be drawn as to whether you share that view or disagree.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/07/2024 23:49

Well, times change. Until very recently, your DD would have been held up as an exemplar of a ‘good woman’.

Perhaps she still is.

gavisconismyfriend · 21/07/2024 23:43

I was miserable at her age because I did the social things that people expected me too, it was easier to give into the nagging than stand my ground. I look back and wish I’d had the courage to hoe my own row, I’d have had a much happier time. Good on your daughter for knowing what makes her happy and investing her time in it - that’s the very best kind of story to be able to share with her children in the future. Be proud of her that she seems to have learnt the secret of contentment at a very young age!

MoveToParis · 21/07/2024 23:41

KreedKafer · 21/07/2024 20:42

Absolute fucking bollocks, mate.

I’m not your mate, so don’t presume to use that vile over-familiar term to me. Thanks.

I think the OP’s concerns come from a good place and maybe they will turn out to be unwarranted, but maybe she actually can see a broader picture.

Alone and lonely are different things completely, but devaluing friendships through lower participation in the friendship is a route to loneliness. Friendships take time to develop under to any circumstance , and deserve care and attention.

wellington77 · 21/07/2024 23:38

She might not have found her tribe yet. What I mean by that is, when I was that age, I had friends who I was friends with because I went to school with them but really it was rather surface level, it was only when I went to uni I found people I properly connected with and then actually wanted to hang out with other than at school. This might be the case with your daughter maybe.

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