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Biden drops out

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/07/2024 19:11

I know a lot of you are following the election news…

Posting for interest and traffic.

Biden drops out
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ditalini · 21/07/2024 21:10

Careful what you wish for Republicans.

Trump's not much younger and old age comes on fast. Good luck trying to prise a senile Trump out of office, if he can even manage the campaign trail this time.

FOJN · 21/07/2024 21:08

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 21:00

I didn't say anything about Biden being corrupt or not, I'm referring to falsely accusing him of gross acts with no evidence, please read:

static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/654c5f7182bca1ee/6fe57478-full.pdf

My point was that finding a credible source to report anything truthful about the Biden family will be difficult as they seem to be very protected by the MSM. The laptop story was a just recent example of the lies they are prepared to tell to protect the Biden family from being held to account about anything.

Joe Bidens cognitive decline was evident before the last election but everyone claimed his gaffs were as a result of a stutter he'd had since childhood, strangely it had not seemed to trouble him when making speeches previously. I suspect he received a diagnosis of Parkinson's some years ago but the public have been deceived about that too.

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 21:07

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/07/2024 21:04

If I tell you he was a great man, wonderful father, and loving grandfather will you stop posting that link?

I mean most would know I was lying but would it make you feel better?

I just prefer to deal in facts. You are entitled to your opinion, but falsely accusing someone of crimes with no evidence is a different thing.

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 21:05

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 21:03

Please read her letter.

I don't see how I've been offensive. I completely believe her, apparently you don't.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/07/2024 21:04

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 21:02

Fucking hell, carry on, clearly facts don't matter to you.

If I tell you he was a great man, wonderful father, and loving grandfather will you stop posting that link?

I mean most would know I was lying but would it make you feel better?

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Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 21:03

iamtheblcksheep · 21/07/2024 21:03

Do you know how offensive you are being to people who have suffered sexual assault at the hands of a parent. Who fucking cares how old she was when she wrote it. Are you saying she made it up? Grow up and take a long hard look in the mirror.

Please read her letter.

iamtheblcksheep · 21/07/2024 21:03

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 20:29

FFS this is the private diary of a teenager. We have no idea how old she was when she showered with her Dad. Teenagers think all sorts of things, it is disgusting that you are inferring these things with zero evidence. Again please post a reputable source with quotes from his daughter (as an adult obviously).

Do you know how offensive you are being to people who have suffered sexual assault at the hands of a parent. Who fucking cares how old she was when she wrote it. Are you saying she made it up? Grow up and take a long hard look in the mirror.

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 21:02

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/07/2024 20:58

You can keep reposting that but I don’t really see where she said her words weren’t true

Fucking hell, carry on, clearly facts don't matter to you.

Mischance · 21/07/2024 21:02

He left it too late ... if he had signalled that he would not stand again 6 months or even a year ago the Democrats could have got their ducks in a row and launched a solid campaign this year. As it is he has likely blown it anyway by acting too late. Sigh.

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 21:00

FOJN · 21/07/2024 20:58

You think MSM would report the truth about the Biden family?

Remember that days before the last election the MSM claimed the NY Post article about Hunter Bidens laptop was Russian disinformation which was a lie. The FBI had been in possession of the laptop for a year and done nothing. The three letter agencies were embedded in SM media companies and actively worked to suppress the story.

It's possible to think Biden is corrupt and not like Trump at the same time.

I didn't say anything about Biden being corrupt or not, I'm referring to falsely accusing him of gross acts with no evidence, please read:

static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/654c5f7182bca1ee/6fe57478-full.pdf

Teddleshon · 21/07/2024 20:59

@Justcallmebebes I’m amazed to see so many on here calling Biden a good and decent man. His long history of corruption is legion as is his long history of lying. What he’s done to women through Title IX is unbelievable.

I’m no Trump fan but it is completely on Biden that he will win in November.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/07/2024 20:59

iamtheblcksheep · 21/07/2024 20:58

You forgot racist. Don’t ask me to prove it keyboard warriors. Go find google

No worries I sourced it already

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/07/2024 20:58

You can keep reposting that but I don’t really see where she said her words weren’t true

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iamtheblcksheep · 21/07/2024 20:58

Justcallmebebes · 21/07/2024 19:46

No. I'm talking about Biden. Hunter taking millions of dollars from Ukraine on the pretence of being an energy advisor, all endorsed by Biden

Biden's daughter recalling showers taken with her father when she was in her teens and much more

I have no time for Trump either, but let's not pretend Biden is some sort of saint because he's far from it

You forgot racist. Don’t ask me to prove it keyboard warriors. Go find google

FOJN · 21/07/2024 20:58

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 20:17

Please stop posting links to rubbish on YouTube, unless you have a credible source don't bother, otherwise this is clearly just bullshit propaganda.

You think MSM would report the truth about the Biden family?

Remember that days before the last election the MSM claimed the NY Post article about Hunter Bidens laptop was Russian disinformation which was a lie. The FBI had been in possession of the laptop for a year and done nothing. The three letter agencies were embedded in SM media companies and actively worked to suppress the story.

It's possible to think Biden is corrupt and not like Trump at the same time.

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 20:57

Justcallmebebes · 21/07/2024 20:56

She wrote, herself, that she was confused about taking showers with her father when she was a teenager. I'm not sure how that can be misinterpreted.

She then admitted, as an adult, that those were her diaries and she did write that

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/654c5f7182bca1ee/6fe57478-full.pdf

Please read this. It's not that long.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/654c5f7182bca1ee/6fe57478-full.pdf

Justcallmebebes · 21/07/2024 20:56

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 20:51

"Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love.”

She wrote, herself, that she was confused about taking showers with her father when she was a teenager. I'm not sure how that can be misinterpreted.

She then admitted, as an adult, that those were her diaries and she did write that

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 20:56

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 20:52

Evidence and facts matter.

If you care to read the full text of her letter it's here: https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/654c5f7182bca1ee/6fe57478-full.pdf

but feel free to continue suggesting someone is a paedophile with no evidence. It's a lovely thing to do.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/654c5f7182bca1ee/6fe57478-full.pdf

TempestTost · 21/07/2024 20:56

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/07/2024 20:51

Again money… there are some election rules at play regarding PACs and the ability to transfer money donated to “Biden/Harris” to other candidates.

That and she has the VP title already.

She's not electable.

Acapulco12 · 21/07/2024 20:54

TreeShrugger · 21/07/2024 20:49

Be interesting to see if the Democrats turn the age card on Trump. It sounds mad but the narrative could be we reflected, recognised JB was too old, and they acted. Would be difficult for the R party to argue against given there’s only 4 years between them and, well, Trump is barely coherent at the best of times.

Yeah I wonder that too. Trump does come across as quite vital and full of life, when he goes into combative mode (which is most of
the time), and it also helps that he’s quite physically broad and imposing anyway, so he often comes across to me as younger than he actually is.

TempestTost · 21/07/2024 20:53

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/07/2024 20:48

Misspeak aside Snopes validated at least 1 quote

During a U.S. Senate debate on busing for racial desegregation in 1977, then-Sen. Joe Biden said, "Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point."

www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-racial-jungle-quote/

I have to say, I think Biden was dumb, for many reasons to say that. But I don't know that it was racist as such. The fact is that many schools that forced integration had a lot of tensions and problems, and I don't think many of the parents were very happy about the environment of the schools for their kids. Whether you think the final result was worth it or not.

That being said- most of Bdien's racial credentials come from him being Obama's VP. Not from anything special about his own views or policies. He's been losing younger black male voters, and Hispanic voters, to Trump.

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 20:52

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 20:51

"Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love.”

Evidence and facts matter.

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 20:51

Justcallmebebes · 21/07/2024 20:49

I am not being obtuse. You just have your head in the sand and refuse to believe what is right there in front of you. What more "evidence" do you need?

"Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love.”

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/07/2024 20:51

TempestTost · 21/07/2024 20:46

What a mess. I don't know what the Democrats are thinking, or Biden's family.

I can only think he himself has a huge blind spot, and probably is not doing his best thinking. But others should have taken action.

I imagine it's too little too late though, and what is he thinking endorsing Harris of all people!? If his endorsement is to be effective at all it needs to be someone with a chance of getting votes. Endorsing Harris at best will divide Democrat voters when they need to be focused and united.

Even without the weird response to the assassination attempt, Trump was looking a little ahead, and I think his choice of VP has done him a lot of good. It cements the sense of him as the champion of the working class, pro-union, etc, and increases the perception, already established, of the Democrats as the urban, university elite, working mainly for the good of bankers.

If Harris has any smarts she will refuse to step forward.

Again money… there are some election rules at play regarding PACs and the ability to transfer money donated to “Biden/Harris” to other candidates.

That and she has the VP title already.

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Justcallmebebes · 21/07/2024 20:49

Hmmtheplant · 21/07/2024 20:47

FFS read her quotes as an adult, are you being purposely obtuse, or have you not read this thread?

I am not being obtuse. You just have your head in the sand and refuse to believe what is right there in front of you. What more "evidence" do you need?