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To wonder if they're two faced

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sensitivesarah · 21/07/2024 17:13

I'm weary of manipulative and two faced people. As a classic people pleaser, I've had my fair share of 'friends' walk all over me in the past.

There are two women at work, who are very close and seemingly have always been friendly to me. I would describe them (and me) as classic gossips, talking down about other people's performance and sharing information we have.

I've noted though on instagram they both stopped liking my posts completely. They both reply to my stories but won't interact with me publicly. They like each others and other people's, in fact they don't miss a beat. I don't think I ever scroll past a mutual colleagues post and don't see they've left their mark. However they both must have 'missed' by new home post just last week.

I'm aware this might sound immature and I'm not that young (34) but we've all worked together for several years and I'm weary of them because of their negativity and toxic behaviour (which I also engage in) but it feels like perhaps deep down, I am competition for them also and they are nice to my face but behind my back I'm another person therm criticise, hence they won't interact with me online. I can't think of why otherwise.

OP posts:
courgettes4eva · 22/07/2024 07:16

MiGatoEsBonitoTuGatoEsFeo · 22/07/2024 06:06

If you're not interested in answering her question and you genuinely think it's pathetic, then wtf are you doing on the thread? How pathetic is that? Why reply god knows how many times so nastily? There's someone on this thread "engaging in toxic behaviour" and it wasn't OP.

and i have just read the thread looking for your advice @MiGatoEsBonitoTuGatoEsFeo

Nope, nothing

courgettes4eva · 22/07/2024 07:15

MiGatoEsBonitoTuGatoEsFeo · 22/07/2024 06:06

If you're not interested in answering her question and you genuinely think it's pathetic, then wtf are you doing on the thread? How pathetic is that? Why reply god knows how many times so nastily? There's someone on this thread "engaging in toxic behaviour" and it wasn't OP.

Have you read the thread?

My view is almost unanimous

The OP’s years of bitchiness with these two has now turned on her

So really, what advice can one give aside from…. don’t engage in bitchy toxic behaviour at 34 (at any age really but you can be far more understanding if the Op was, let’s say, two decades younger!)

GRex · 22/07/2024 06:39

A "people pleaser" cares about the approval of others. If this is how you feel, then you don't seem to have self awareness because your posts and life approach seem abrasive. If you have been this abrasive in real life, then that might be why your colleagues aren't communicating with you as much over social media any more. It sounds very controlling and bizarre to want emoticons rather than written responses, but obviously you know their posting style, so you know without asking AIBU that they are annoyed with you. Which brings us to why you're posting; option 1 - ran out of friends in real life to complain at due to being abrasive, option 2 - hoping to aggravate the masses to have a fight. I can't think of an option that puts you in a good light. Have you considered exercise as an outlet instead?

Clarinet1 · 22/07/2024 06:22

If they’re such bitches why are you so concerned to that you stay in their clique?

MiGatoEsBonitoTuGatoEsFeo · 22/07/2024 06:06

courgettes4eva · 21/07/2024 19:47

and not one person has helped answer my question.

im not interested in helping anyone who, in their mid thirties, engages in toxic behaviour, and is friends with people who do and is bothered about likes on posts and describes themself as a “people pleaser” and includes a “Reminder” in their post to answer your pathetic question.

I wonder how many people you most definitely haven’t “pleased” over the years OP have started threads about you?!

If you're not interested in answering her question and you genuinely think it's pathetic, then wtf are you doing on the thread? How pathetic is that? Why reply god knows how many times so nastily? There's someone on this thread "engaging in toxic behaviour" and it wasn't OP.

Solocup · 22/07/2024 02:04

People who describe themselves as people pleasers always seem the most bitchy. Work towards being more authentic and you might find you care less about who likes your insta posts.

RomanticOutlaws · 21/07/2024 22:26

And considering that your workplace pals are a bunch of gossipy twats, you've probably just been added to their bitching rotation. I've seen it a hundred times. To them, you're just another person to talk about behind your back. They're not your friends.

RomanticOutlaws · 21/07/2024 22:24

sensitivesarah · 21/07/2024 19:33

So not one of you has ever gone for an after work drink and shared frustrations about a low performer at work? Or inside of work. Ever. Please do come back and confirm.

If I had concerns about an underperforming colleague I'd take that to my boss. I've had it with side eye knobbers.

BorisJohnsonsWigGlue · 21/07/2024 21:28

People have answered your question OP, but because it's not the answer you're looking for, you're choosing to ignore it.

You cannot be a people pleaser and a gossip / bitch at the same time.

They probably caught onto you over bitching and got bored of it.

VividQuoter · 21/07/2024 20:53

I wonder what the sharing of you: participating in toxic behaviour and gossiping about other people ( perhaps negatively) reveal about you poster and what good you expect from the universe back, hence what you are sowing is vile

TinklySnail · 21/07/2024 20:26

It all sounds a bit mean girls. You could ask why they ignored it? Might be they don’t see your posts?

RunningThroughMyHead · 21/07/2024 20:09

It sounds like you're all twits to be honest.

34, bitches about "low performers" and worrying about what the office bullies do.

You all need to grow up.

Octavia64 · 21/07/2024 20:09

In general people who gossip and bitch about people do it about everyone, so yes they are almost certainly doing it about you.

When I was 15 I joined in with a gossip and bitching session. It backfired on me really really badly and now as an adult I only do it with people I have known for a long long time.

Yes when we all go to the pub on Friday night after work we whinge about how tired we are and how annoying the customers are but we don't generally bitch about colleagues.

courgettes4eva · 21/07/2024 20:06

sensitivesarah · 21/07/2024 20:02

@courgettes4eva I am infertile. Born with low egg reserve.

I'm a better person than you are judging from your comments, please remove yourself from my thread.

happily

night op

hope you get your bitches back

courgettes4eva · 21/07/2024 20:04

sensitivesarah · 21/07/2024 19:59

Thank you. I'm glad one person has given a response like this.

Courgettes4eva has written about half a dozen comments, reprimanding me for being bitchy, whilst seemingly showing worse traits for it. The irony.

i am relieved that someone who engages in toxic behaviour bitching and gossiping at 34 years old and then gets wonders whether her compatriots are “two faced” when they do to her what she’s done to many ie bitch, hasn’t procreated. If that makes me “bitchy” so be it.

Wickerchaize · 21/07/2024 20:04

I remember my daughter worrying about people who acted like friends to her face, but who never liked her posts, and people who seemed to enjoy time with her, but who never shared any pictures of them together. This was when she was in year 7. She’s 19 now and, thankfully, she’s past that stage.

sensitivesarah · 21/07/2024 20:02

@courgettes4eva I am infertile. Born with low egg reserve.

I'm a better person than you are judging from your comments, please remove yourself from my thread.

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sensitivesarah · 21/07/2024 19:59

Waveforme · 21/07/2024 19:56

People are being a bit harsh. Yes, OP, they are now hanging up on you, quite predictably. Distance yourself and stop bitching about people! I'm not judging btw, I've also been copped for bitching when I was trying to fit in with others who were doing it. Stay true to yourself, don't get involved.

Thank you. I'm glad one person has given a response like this.

Courgettes4eva has written about half a dozen comments, reprimanding me for being bitchy, whilst seemingly showing worse traits for it. The irony.

OP posts:
courgettes4eva · 21/07/2024 19:58

sensitivesarah · 21/07/2024 19:55

@courgettes4eva partner, no children. Why.

Honestly? Relieved

Demonhunter · 21/07/2024 19:57

"Please be kinder" 😂😂😂

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Garlickest · 21/07/2024 19:57

sensitivesarah · 21/07/2024 19:33

So not one of you has ever gone for an after work drink and shared frustrations about a low performer at work? Or inside of work. Ever. Please do come back and confirm.

Yes, plenty! Difference is I know, in such an environment, they'll all be doing the same about me. If my beer pals suddenly stopped acknowledging me I would assume that either [a] my own remarks had crossed over the line between good-natured and vicious, or [b] someone else had said something vicious about me.

Ask them! Try not to sound defensive or angry. Mildly hurt is OK.

sensitivesarah · 21/07/2024 19:57

I find it very hard to believe none of you have ever spoken about someone you work with. Ever. No one is confirming this. I'm not going out for drinks with them more than once every month, and it comes up in conversation about our manager being a low performer and being paid more than us, yet seemingly making little impact. It's really nothing unusual.

I've heard many, many people do the same, this company, past companies, outside of work, my partner's company, his previous companies.

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Waveforme · 21/07/2024 19:56

People are being a bit harsh. Yes, OP, they are now hanging up on you, quite predictably. Distance yourself and stop bitching about people! I'm not judging btw, I've also been copped for bitching when I was trying to fit in with others who were doing it. Stay true to yourself, don't get involved.

sensitivesarah · 21/07/2024 19:55

@courgettes4eva partner, no children. Why.

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YourMommaWasASnowblower · 21/07/2024 19:53

Yes, I think them not interacting with your posts is because they have bitched about you and it’s a message.
You think they are the bitches and you are ‘people pleasing’ (weirdest use of these 2 words!) by bitching along with them too. They however, probably think YOU are the bitch who they are “people pleasing” by bitching along with you. After all OP, birds of a feather flock together.