University results - u certicate

I'd love to know what line of work you're into @Ozanj :)

Can they do 3 modules next year to get the missing 60 credits from the same school department and get a degree with the subject of the school as the degree e.g. BA Hons Planning and Urban Studies.

OP was it an engineering degree?

@getrunningirl

https://www.bbk.ac.uk/student-services/admissions/transfer

A U just means he can’t continue that course at Nottingham. Provided he passed Second Year he could still transfer to another university (online of in person) and I’d probably recommend he study part time from home to ensure he gets a degree.

It’s not the end of the world. I failed my degree too but I’m now earning 6 figure in a highly qualified role and have several 1st class degrees and masters under my belt. It’s not the end of the world.

Did he get a U as in an unclassified degree, or a U grade in his finals? An unclassified degree is still a degree, just not an honours degree.

ask the pivotal and un-nerving questions that they won't want to answer! Be strong, polite, but firm

What are the pivotal and unnerving questions that they won’t want to answer?

Op, I wouldn't give up yet, not until I had explored all options. Nottingham can be errr sometimes not forthcoming with alternatives! Get son to email his tutor, course leader, head of dept, whichever you can get, and ask for a teams meeting. You can then ask to sit in on it.

And go back to the careers advice, email from his email account, as him, with him sitting next to you, and ask the pivotal and un-nerving questions that they won't want to answer! Be strong, polite, but firm.

I don't think my meaning was clear.

Whether or not OP's son failed his degree, he's still entitled to the same level of support as alumni. Looking at their website , they don't seem to offer individual career coaching for alumni anyway. They are just following the policy and not making an exception for anybody else.
If this is wrong, and alumni have access then OP's son should too. That should be challenged.

It's not even clear whether he even emailed or just tried to book an appointment on some automated system that rejected him automatically as not a student.

However, if they have advised that they can't help because they don't know anything about certs/HE diplomas, that's also fair. You say they 'may' know. But they don't need to really. They are a university career service not the Jobcentre, FE college or anything like that. Those sorts of qualifications are not what they expect their students to be leaving with otherwise it's a failure of the university.

What he should really be asking is, instead of just an appointment or generic advice, is more targeted information.

He should tell them that he's left with a U, are there options for credit transfer or any resources regarding roles with this degree classification? Ask them what they can do.

They can then respond as appropriate.

Is credit transfer an option? Maybe not now, but in a couple of years if he matures. I think you can carry over a certain number of credits to certain other degrees.

Not necessarily, they’ve had the cash and may well advise on certificates and diplomas of HE.

An ex of money got a pass degree in maths and went on to do a PGCE and become a maths teacher ,this was in the 90,s though .

My BF at the time got a U (unclassified) for her maths degree. She does put it on her CV, but she can’t put the honours bit next to it.
she ended up in computing after doing another course.

On the surface yes. But thinking deeper...

Why would they know anything about non-degree jobs? Their whole purpose is to get their graduates into graduate employment.
Not only that enthusing about non-grad options runs contrary to the marketing of a degree as a required stepping stone for a good career.

Also, questions about degree transferability etc are academic. Not within the remit of careers service.

He's better off asking the admissions department or his former personal tutor about that.

Non-degree jobs well there's the national careers service or apprenticeship sites but they're not that great.

Personally I think rushing into stuff is the last thing needed, he should take some time to think, get a local job.

"retake one module from the 2nd year during the 3rd year having FAILED THE RESIT".

This would make me quite angry. WHO made this decision?? If he failed the end of Y2 exam then failed the re-sit, then this should have been the deciding point not to go into year 3 and pay another £9000 in tuition fees. A university should NOT be allowing a student to enter Y3 when they've failed a resit.

I'd absolutely be wanting some answers from the university on why this has happened. I'd almost be wanting a refund of Y3 tuition fees because allowing a student to continue who had failed twice is ridiculous. It's essentially wasted £9000 and a year of his life - university isn't for everyone.

Obviously if your son begged to continue then he will just have to deal with it, but I would be really angry with the university for allowing him to continue when he clearly wasn't going to pass.

You need self discipline when at University. I found students who had been to boarding school especially and were used to lots of supervision found it really hard to do self directed study sometimes. It is indeed very hard to get so far and fail usually they are ‘let go’ before it comes to that and end up with a certificate or a diploma in higher education.

DS did A levels in covid year, he decided to work for a couple of years so is in his second year and is in line for a first on a degree apprenticeship.

After 27 years working in higher education, now retired I can honestly say University is not for everyone and it is nothing to do with intelligence levels.

Is it 'unclassified' (aka 'fail')?

I would strongly recommend not pursuing a repeat of the degree elsewhere. It actually takes a lot to fail a degree and so it suggests that the individual is not on the right path and repetition is unlike to yield different results. They need to look at other options.

I found A levels very easy and first year Uni very easy getting top marks, then in second year it went down hill and I graduated in 2005 with a 2:2 BEng. I spent 3 years doing fairly menial jobs and I traveled. Then I decided to go back to uni and did a masters (in the subject I had though about but decided against doing for UG) since then I have been flying: Masters, PhD, good jobs, good salary. I think it was partly maturity but also a more interesting (to me) course and motivation.

I am sure things will turn out OK for your DC