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Dogs in restaurants

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MealDealDreamz · 21/07/2024 10:50

Informal dining and cafes, fine. Pubs, fine. But only if dogs are on the floor and reasonably well behaved (by that I mean not barking all the time).Restaurant not fine. Am I alone in this?
If I am paying to go somewhere specifically to enjoy the food and pay extra for it and want to enjoy a special evening (birthday) why do I have to put up with a dog lying on the floor at the table next to me?. I just don't think this is necessary or acceptable. Am I totally alone in this?

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PickettyPick · 07/02/2025 14:14

AllyCart · 07/02/2025 11:32

So a complete generalisation is your argument?

If "dogs sit under the table minding their own business" how, in the pub last Friday evening, was there one pulling on its lead , barking/whining so loudly every couple of minutes that people started leaving?

And in the very same pub on the very same evening, how did a young cocker spaniel jump up and put its dirty paws on my friends leg, marking her cream trousers, if it was sat under a table minding it's own business?

And by the way, we saw that cocker spaniel being unloaded from its owner's car as we arrived. They had actually driven to the pub and brought the dog with them. I mean, calling in while on a walk is one thing but actually driving a dog to the pub??? Incredible.

OMG, what did the police say?

Hasbean2 · 07/02/2025 11:41

AllyCart · 07/02/2025 11:32

So a complete generalisation is your argument?

If "dogs sit under the table minding their own business" how, in the pub last Friday evening, was there one pulling on its lead , barking/whining so loudly every couple of minutes that people started leaving?

And in the very same pub on the very same evening, how did a young cocker spaniel jump up and put its dirty paws on my friends leg, marking her cream trousers, if it was sat under a table minding it's own business?

And by the way, we saw that cocker spaniel being unloaded from its owner's car as we arrived. They had actually driven to the pub and brought the dog with them. I mean, calling in while on a walk is one thing but actually driving a dog to the pub??? Incredible.

Presumably driving back from a dog walk? Especially if muddy paws. People drive to different spots to walk their dogs (in fact it's recommended to walk in a wide range of places), and might be driving back over dinner time. It would be The death of a lot of country pubs in people had to drive on, drop their dog off and drive all the way back. It's the same reason they often have a muddy boots welcome sign (for people on the way back from walks)

Most dogs behave, some don't. Those that don't are 99 times more noticeable than those quietly under a table. Same with children, I could recount lots of noisy kids stories because those drew my attention.

Not all kids are incapable of sitting politely in a restaurant (some absolutely are), not all dogs are.

No one would disagree that if your dog isn't able to behave then it shouldn't be there, but I suspect people will just have different lines as to where that is.

AllyCart · 07/02/2025 11:32

PickettyPick · 06/02/2025 22:13

No, not comparable because babies are very disruptive whereas dogs sit under the table minding their own business.

So a complete generalisation is your argument?

If "dogs sit under the table minding their own business" how, in the pub last Friday evening, was there one pulling on its lead , barking/whining so loudly every couple of minutes that people started leaving?

And in the very same pub on the very same evening, how did a young cocker spaniel jump up and put its dirty paws on my friends leg, marking her cream trousers, if it was sat under a table minding it's own business?

And by the way, we saw that cocker spaniel being unloaded from its owner's car as we arrived. They had actually driven to the pub and brought the dog with them. I mean, calling in while on a walk is one thing but actually driving a dog to the pub??? Incredible.

PickettyPick · 06/02/2025 22:13

AllyCart · 06/02/2025 21:43

You can't seriously think the presence of babies and presence of dogs in restaurants is in anyway comparable?

Wow.

No, not comparable because babies are very disruptive whereas dogs sit under the table minding their own business.

ForRealCat · 06/02/2025 21:58

Alcazaba1 · 06/02/2025 21:13

Exactly! These babies would completely destroys other people's enjoyment of their dinner/drinks. No idea why some awful over entitled parents think this is acceptable. Small children/babies shouldn't be allowed into restaurants or bars.

Not exactly my point!!! But one of the mums was hugely frustrated at the other because her baby was setting the other one off. I found it amusing more than disruptive, particularly with this thread front of mind!!!

AllyCart · 06/02/2025 21:43

Alcazaba1 · 06/02/2025 21:13

Exactly! These babies would completely destroys other people's enjoyment of their dinner/drinks. No idea why some awful over entitled parents think this is acceptable. Small children/babies shouldn't be allowed into restaurants or bars.

You can't seriously think the presence of babies and presence of dogs in restaurants is in anyway comparable?

Wow.

Alcazaba1 · 06/02/2025 21:13

ForRealCat · 06/02/2025 20:46

Was in the pub at lunchtime today. My dog was under the table asleep. Two different tables had babies at them and both were crying at one point. Not a problem, but which tables impacted on others dining experiences? Not me.

Exactly! These babies would completely destroys other people's enjoyment of their dinner/drinks. No idea why some awful over entitled parents think this is acceptable. Small children/babies shouldn't be allowed into restaurants or bars.

ForRealCat · 06/02/2025 20:46

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 20:41

Narcissistic AND psychopath?

You're hilarious 😂

You just can't believe that others might like dogs, including business owners. And that your opinion simply isn't the most important thing

Was in the pub at lunchtime today. My dog was under the table asleep. Two different tables had babies at them and both were crying at one point. Not a problem, but which tables impacted on others dining experiences? Not me.

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 20:46

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 20:41

Narcissistic AND psychopath?

You're hilarious 😂

You just can't believe that others might like dogs, including business owners. And that your opinion simply isn't the most important thing

I accept people like dogs.

I don’t like that some people think it’s the same as having a child and that tolerance levels should be the same

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 20:41

Narcissistic AND psychopath?

You're hilarious 😂

You just can't believe that others might like dogs, including business owners. And that your opinion simply isn't the most important thing

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 20:29

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 20:22

No they aren't
No they aren't
No it isn't. It's your view

Of course children are different to animals. Unless you’re a psychopath

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 20:24

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/02/2025 17:41

Some people really don't like kids. So even a well behaved kid sat in the same cafe as them is going to piss them off.
Much like you and dogs.
Both kid and dog haters alike will do well to just mind their own business and get on with their day.

Exactly!

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 20:22

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 17:35

Well it’s good your dog behaves but even a well behaved dog is an imposition on others. Children are different. It may not sit well with you but it’s the truth

No they aren't
No they aren't
No it isn't. It's your view

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/02/2025 17:57

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 17:52

I don’t hate dogs, I’ve owned dogs. Pretty hard creatures to hate. I dislike entitled dog owners though.

And actually disliking dogs or fearing them is entirely reasonable.

I am not being entitled to take her somewhere she is welcome. She is also very well behaved.
It is entitled to go to a dog friendly place and moan there are dogs there. Even more entitled to moan about dogs that are well behaved and ignoring you.

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 17:52

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/02/2025 17:50

Hating dogs is also a "them" problem.
Anyway, I am going to take my dog for a little walk and take her to the local cafe. Very dog friendly. She will get fuss and biscuit.

I don’t hate dogs, I’ve owned dogs. Pretty hard creatures to hate. I dislike entitled dog owners though.

And actually disliking dogs or fearing them is entirely reasonable.

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/02/2025 17:50

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 17:43

I can’t be doing with people who blanket “don’t like kids”. Disliking a subsection of humans, especially the sub section that are innocent. is slightly unhinged. It should be a “them” problem, no one else’s.

Not liking an animal that is noisy smelly and often casts hair is reasonable. They are not humans and it’s not an equal footing. I know this must hurt to hear but it’s true 🤷‍♀️

Hating dogs is also a "them" problem.
Anyway, I am going to take my dog for a little walk and take her to the local cafe. Very dog friendly. She will get fuss and biscuit.

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 17:43

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/02/2025 17:41

Some people really don't like kids. So even a well behaved kid sat in the same cafe as them is going to piss them off.
Much like you and dogs.
Both kid and dog haters alike will do well to just mind their own business and get on with their day.

I can’t be doing with people who blanket “don’t like kids”. Disliking a subsection of humans, especially the sub section that are innocent. is slightly unhinged. It should be a “them” problem, no one else’s.

Not liking an animal that is noisy smelly and often casts hair is reasonable. They are not humans and it’s not an equal footing. I know this must hurt to hear but it’s true 🤷‍♀️

YeOldeGreyhound · 06/02/2025 17:41

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 17:35

Well it’s good your dog behaves but even a well behaved dog is an imposition on others. Children are different. It may not sit well with you but it’s the truth

Some people really don't like kids. So even a well behaved kid sat in the same cafe as them is going to piss them off.
Much like you and dogs.
Both kid and dog haters alike will do well to just mind their own business and get on with their day.

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 17:35

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 17:17

You really aren't getting the irony and hypocrisy, are you.... you keep on digging deeper, not really getting how hypocritical you are.

You REALLY want my dog to misbehave in pubs, etc, he doesn't. On the rare occasion he even lifts his head (if someone's kid says hello, more irony) never mind moves, we block him in with chairs or double wrap his lead round table legs.

But yes, of course, everyone makes mistakes, with kids and dogs, it's how you react to them that counts. You are clearly intolerant and want everyone to follow your way. I was winding you up by using exaggerated, emotive language about kids just as you did about dogs.
You just don't recognise yourself in the mirror, and have ignored the opinions of all those who value their dogs for personal reasons

Well it’s good your dog behaves but even a well behaved dog is an imposition on others. Children are different. It may not sit well with you but it’s the truth

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 17:17

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 16:22

It’s quite pathetic how you REALLY want my kids to be badly behaved - you’d be sorely disappointed.

Again you have to have a tolerance for all sorts of humans. It’s a bit narcissistic to think everyone around you should behave to your exact standards.

You really aren't getting the irony and hypocrisy, are you.... you keep on digging deeper, not really getting how hypocritical you are.

You REALLY want my dog to misbehave in pubs, etc, he doesn't. On the rare occasion he even lifts his head (if someone's kid says hello, more irony) never mind moves, we block him in with chairs or double wrap his lead round table legs.

But yes, of course, everyone makes mistakes, with kids and dogs, it's how you react to them that counts. You are clearly intolerant and want everyone to follow your way. I was winding you up by using exaggerated, emotive language about kids just as you did about dogs.
You just don't recognise yourself in the mirror, and have ignored the opinions of all those who value their dogs for personal reasons

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 16:22

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 14:08

If I am enjoying a good meal.in an expensive restaurant, which is what we are talking about here, then you certainly can do something. You can take them outside, and you absolutely can not bring them, by not going out or going to somewhere child friendly like a pub by a play barn, or get a baby sitter. Take your screaming, banging, running around offspring elsewhere, don't inflict your low standards on others.

When I was a child, and when my kids were young, that's exactly what happened

The fact that you don't even think about that says a lot about you

It’s quite pathetic how you REALLY want my kids to be badly behaved - you’d be sorely disappointed.

Again you have to have a tolerance for all sorts of humans. It’s a bit narcissistic to think everyone around you should behave to your exact standards.

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 14:08

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 13:28

Tolerating children is completely different to tolerating animals. We need children in the world and we can’t leave them at home. Also we were all children once. Bringing an animal into a restaurant is imposing on the space of humans, and IMO (and that of many others) unacceptable

If I am enjoying a good meal.in an expensive restaurant, which is what we are talking about here, then you certainly can do something. You can take them outside, and you absolutely can not bring them, by not going out or going to somewhere child friendly like a pub by a play barn, or get a baby sitter. Take your screaming, banging, running around offspring elsewhere, don't inflict your low standards on others.

When I was a child, and when my kids were young, that's exactly what happened

The fact that you don't even think about that says a lot about you

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 13:28

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 12:00

Of course they are. You just keep telling yourself that
You are an uptight stress head. Your posts about dogs, when the majority are well behaved, give you away there quite clearly.
Tolerance goes all ways, well most people think it does

Tolerating children is completely different to tolerating animals. We need children in the world and we can’t leave them at home. Also we were all children once. Bringing an animal into a restaurant is imposing on the space of humans, and IMO (and that of many others) unacceptable

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 12:00

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 11:03

Not at all. My kids are perfectly behaved. i just have a smidgen of tolerance that other people’s kids aren’t gonna be super quiet or perfectly behaved and because im not an uptight stress head

Of course they are. You just keep telling yourself that
You are an uptight stress head. Your posts about dogs, when the majority are well behaved, give you away there quite clearly.
Tolerance goes all ways, well most people think it does

JandamiHash · 06/02/2025 11:03

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2025 09:59

Pretty obvious you are one of those parents who let's their kids do what they want

Not at all. My kids are perfectly behaved. i just have a smidgen of tolerance that other people’s kids aren’t gonna be super quiet or perfectly behaved and because im not an uptight stress head