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To think this was bloody dangerous and some people are just batshit

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Redgreenfroggy · 21/07/2024 09:40

We are in London at the moment. Can I just say I like dogs and have no issue in general with owners, dogs etc as long as they are well behaved and considerate etc.
Was at the embankment tube station and was walking along the platform with my son and husband. Son was a bit ahead taking to another boy.
Suddenly my son and this lad going flying forward and ended up on a heap and this women starts shouting at them. Turns out her little dog was ok an extendable lead and the dog walked right in front of my son and the other lad. The dog was so near the platform edge. I shout back at the women that on what planet does she think having her dog on an extendable lead on the tube platform was ok. Everyone else is just looking in disbelief. Then member of tube staff just walks past ignoring the issue.

the women picks up her dog and storms off back up the platform.
WTF

OP posts:
jasminocereusbritannicus · 21/07/2024 12:34

I use an extendable lead, but I’m in control of it. It’s like driving you have to read the situation ahead and adjust the length accordingly, maybe ‘lock ‘ it on a short length for a while. People who just dont think about those around them are a menace .

FOJN · 21/07/2024 12:18

Willmafrockfit · 21/07/2024 12:09

all leads can fail!
not just extendible leads.

Yes but I can see the entire length of my short lead at a glance and the handle loop and clip loops are double stitched. I can see if it's damaged and unsafe to use. My dog collar had a D ring each side of the plastic clip closure so even if that fails I still have some control and my dog is right next to me instead of metres away.

How many owners regularly pull out the entire length of an extendable lead to check if the cord is frayed or weakened? How many owners extend the lead to dry it after a walk in the rain to prevent the cord rotting? How does the owner check that the knot inside the reel is still secure and not unravelling? How can an owner see if the locking mechanism is still safe? The problem with extendable leads is that you are limited in how much you can do to check they are safe. You would usually only find out it's not when it fails in use.

Irridescantshimmmer · 21/07/2024 12:16

She's dog-shit crazy

Well said, she had no control of the dog and did not have the balls to apologise like a decent human being so she put 2 children at risk so yes you were right to call her out on it.

She should be on a short lead with the dog.

FOJN · 21/07/2024 12:11

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 10:40

Oh come off it, I've got kids, how else could they not see a lead across a relatively short platform?

'Son was a bit ahead with another boy'

So I assume they were walking slowly and discussing world politics and missed the lead in front of them?

Honestly I'm not trolling, I just think no London parent lets their kid be 'a bit ahead' on a platform down the tube, its bloody dangerous.

You seem to have made up a scenario and angered yourself in the process. OP doesn't say how old the children were or that they were running.

Extendable leads are usually made of very thin cord, typically no thicker than the washing line on a rotary dryer, so quite difficult to see even in good conditions. The dog was small so the lead would have been quite close to the ground.

Some are now made with a high viz flat tape which is about a centimetre in width, this does make them more visible but I haven't seen many in use.

Willmafrockfit · 21/07/2024 12:09

all leads can fail!
not just extendible leads.

Needmorelego · 21/07/2024 12:02

I think @paperrocksiscissors is the dog owner and she's upset that her precious Fluffykins got told off.
🤔😂🐩

AuntieJoyce · 21/07/2024 12:01

wtfissummer · 21/07/2024 10:53

Was it a full moon last night?

Apparently.

OP, you are so not being unreasonable. I nearly fell over one yesterday in Stonegate in York thanks to some twat. I’m sure many of us have been to York and can imagine how unsuitable a place for one it was. Nearly as unsuitable as a tube platform.

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 11:59

Towelmode · 21/07/2024 11:58

Maybe mine are more clever then

Fingers x, they need some luck in life 😆

Don't they all @Towelmode

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 11:59

Longma · 21/07/2024 11:53

Paperrocksiscissors

You do realise that children who are Londoners have 11 year olds using the underground independently on their own, most days.
Doesn't mean they are running around and getting in people's way.

The op makes no mention of age, where they live, that the boys were running or not looking where they are going.

Why have you decided to come up with an imaginary scenario rather than just accept that a dog should not be in an extendable lead in an underground station?

Sigh, MN does love a pile on doesn't it?

OP says 'We are in London at the moment.' which suggest a visitor doesn't it?

The rest is assumption, but certainly valid for kids running, and under 10, guilty as charged, continue pile on, as you were.

crumblingschools · 21/07/2024 11:59

@paperrocksiscissors can you point out the bit in the OP’s post where she states the DC were charging about and acting irresponsibly

Towelmode · 21/07/2024 11:58

Maybe mine are more clever then

Fingers x, they need some luck in life 😆

Towelmode · 21/07/2024 11:55

@paperrocksiscissors Im a Londoner as in born & raised so know lots of other Londoners. Also someone who used the tube to get to school from a young age….

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 11:54

Towelmode · 21/07/2024 11:51

Wish my primary age kids had better comprehension than me. You're very lucky!

Not really, she is definitely average 😆

Maybe mine are more clever then😂

Longma · 21/07/2024 11:53

Paperrocksiscissors

You do realise that children who are Londoners have 11 year olds using the underground independently on their own, most days.
Doesn't mean they are running around and getting in people's way.

The op makes no mention of age, where they live, that the boys were running or not looking where they are going.

Why have you decided to come up with an imaginary scenario rather than just accept that a dog should not be in an extendable lead in an underground station?

Waffle78 · 21/07/2024 11:52

YANBU I remember seeing a video on social media a few years ago. Boy about 12 was riding his bike down a road. There was a dog on one side of the road and a man on the other. He didn't see the lead accross the road the man was holding . You would think nobody would be that stupid to do that. So the lad cycled into it causing him to fall off his bike. The lad was asking them to be banned.

Also yesterday at Grange when we were walking to the station to get our train home. There was a woman on the beach with 2 out of control dog's not on leads. They were both running towards the road by the station. She just stood there waving her arms and shouting. Think she was expecting someone to grab them. I couldn't as had DD with me who is scared of dogs. When she eventually realised they weren't coming back she went after them stupid woman.

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 11:51

FangsForTheMemory · 21/07/2024 11:35

Londoners don’t give an arse about children using the tube responsibly on their own. I’m guessing you’ve never actually lived in London.

I agree , I don't give an arse about children using the tube responsibly on their own either.

The ones iresponsibly on the other hand are a pain.

Towelmode · 21/07/2024 11:51

Wish my primary age kids had better comprehension than me. You're very lucky!

Not really, she is definitely average 😆

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 11:48

Towelmode · 21/07/2024 11:37

The woman should have the dog on a short lead, but as a Londoner , kids running about on a platform on the tube is DANGEROUS.

Not only is it very easy to lose a child on the underground, its dangerous as hell if they bump into someone and end up on the (electrified) rails!

You should have control of your children on the underground, its not a bloody playground and that dog owner was probably pissed because two boys were charging around on a platform. She , like me, probably lives here, not visiting like you, Londoners do not like children running around on the tube.

My 7 yr old has better comprehension then this poster 😆😆

Wish my primary age kids had better comprehension than me. You're very lucky!

Longma · 21/07/2024 11:47

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 10:35

'and was walking along the platform with my son and husband. Son was a bit ahead taking to another boy.'

Youre both in the wrong.

The woman should have the dog on a short lead, but as a Londoner , kids running about on a platform on the tube is DANGEROUS.

Not only is it very easy to lose a child on the underground, its dangerous as hell if they bump into someone and end up on the (electrified) rails!

You should have control of your children on the underground, its not a bloody playground and that dog owner was probably pissed because two boys were charging around on a platform. She , like me, probably lives here, not visiting like you, Londoners do not like children running around on the tube.

Nothing suggests the boys were running or being silly.
A bit head means just that - the underground is busy, you often have to walk a little in front of the people you are with - having 4 all together takes up too much room.
The op doesn't say the child is really young or of an age where they'd need to be holding hands really close by.

A small dog on an extendable lead will be difficult to see, especially in a busy environment, very easy to miss seeing the dog or the lead in such a situation.

It would appear that it is the dog owner at fault entirely. No dog should be loose (which an extendable lead is akin too in many ways) on an underground platform. They should be sat at heel on a fixed short lead or held.

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 11:46

Towelmode · 21/07/2024 11:37

Londoners do not like children running around on the tube.

You are not a Londoner @paperrocksiscissors

OK @Towelmode whatever you say!

Ebeneser · 21/07/2024 11:45

Extendable leads have their uses, but shouldn’t be used in a busy area or shared use path. We used one for our old dog but she was well behaved. Won’t use one with our new dog as she’s a knob head. Have a training lead or fixed lead for her.

Wentie · 21/07/2024 11:43

All those saying extending leads are fine rurally…. Just train your dog? Your dog should not be on a flexi lead with a field of live stock IT IS NOT SAFE. They should be on a fixed lead.

flexi leads can fail, the grip on the ‘casette’ is not as secure as on a fixed lead, and the length to which it retracts is also not sufficient.

the amount of times I’ve walked past a dog on a retracted/ short flexi lead with the cassette awkwardly being held in the owners hand with the dog straining to get at mine. It’s not equivalent control. In those situations a dog should be at heel. That’s impossible to hold a dog there with the 1m leeway that those leads even have at their shortest.

they are just an excuse for badly trained dogs and people that can’t be bothered. Infuriating.

Mochudubh · 21/07/2024 11:42

Corrag · 21/07/2024 11:13

I disagree that extendable leads should be banned. If used properly they're fine. As usual, it's the idiots that spoil things. User error.

I use an extendable lead but it's only in the free position when it's safe to do so, never when there are other people or cars around.

I used to think that, until the day I was walking with my dog down a street in a small town.

Lead was locked at about 4 feet. We were on the inside of the pavement and just as a woman was walking towards us in the middle of the pavement, my (large) dog decided to investigate the smells around a bin on the edge of the pavement, The mechanism slipped, the dog cut straight across the woman, then returned to me around the back of the woman, fully encircling her like a lasso.

It was like something out of a comedy sketch but the woman was terrified. though thankfully unhurt and I was mortified and obviously very apologetic

I've never used an extendable since, the mechanism can slip/break and the leads themselves are often thin so if you have to grab it in an emergency it'll cut into/burn your hand.

Towelmode · 21/07/2024 11:37

Londoners do not like children running around on the tube.

You are not a Londoner @paperrocksiscissors

Towelmode · 21/07/2024 11:37

The woman should have the dog on a short lead, but as a Londoner , kids running about on a platform on the tube is DANGEROUS.

Not only is it very easy to lose a child on the underground, its dangerous as hell if they bump into someone and end up on the (electrified) rails!

You should have control of your children on the underground, its not a bloody playground and that dog owner was probably pissed because two boys were charging around on a platform. She , like me, probably lives here, not visiting like you, Londoners do not like children running around on the tube.

My 7 yr old has better comprehension then this poster 😆😆

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