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AnotherNaCha · 20/07/2024 22:52

Confusing story in bullet points

  • separated from DC’s father, not married. He was wealthy. He was also abusive
  • he promised me a house in my name, various support - which I’ve been waiting for for about 3 years
  • DC makes an allegation about father of a sexual nature
  • I am advise to totally block or restrict access while allegations re investigated. Choose to restrict. He goes ballistic
  • DC doesn’t repeat allegations, investigation is closed
  • Ex then withdraws all support, has his family (who I was close to) cut me off completely, including from their will, takes me off his will, takes me off his life insurance. Says I have lost everything because I didn’t immediately poo poo the allegations and say he’d never do that. The promised house is now out of the question.
  • Ive done all the childcare, drop offs, and everything, so he could continue his career. Now I have none and nothing. Yes I was an idiot not to get this sorted earlier, but was also suffering from the aftermath of his abuse

AIBU to think he’s been an absolute prick, “punishing” me when it was his behaviour under question? Sending my DC to stay with him after she told me what he’s said (it was serious) was the most awful moment of my life, now I’m getting “punished” for it?

OP posts:
diktat · 21/07/2024 05:08

AnotherNaCha · 21/07/2024 00:00

Because that’s what he promised. I gave up my career (yes stupidly) to renovate a house with him which he then sold and pocketed every last penny, did IVF based on his issues, and supported his career for 10 years while I looked after our child - his parents adored me so had put me in their will on their own accord. It’s not exactly fair is it?

Edited

Being in someone’s will means nothing, especially when you’re not related to them. I’ve changed my will a couple of times. I could even show a previous will to a family member and tell them they’re in it, whilst knowing I have an up to date, witnessed version and they would be none the wiser.

It sounds like you let being in the will cloud your judgement and you did things like give up your career and have a child without the security of marriage.

Given you are now concerned about your health, I think you should prioritise yourself and your dd’s wellbeing. Could you even afford a protracted legal battle?

rubyroola · 21/07/2024 02:32

Op not sure if this has been suggested/addressed up thread but can’t you take him to court for support? Just thinking of the Kyle Walker situation?!

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 21/07/2024 02:12

Nanaof1 · 21/07/2024 01:59

Geeze! It was something SAID, not done. You cannot put someone in jail for something they "might' have said if no one will confirm it.

Get a grip and learn how to read and comprehend.

And save your f'in prayers. My DD was a victim, and he got jail time because I fought for her. So save your false sense of self-righteous indignation and stick it.

So again, I'll ask. You think there is nothing wrong with a father (or any man) saying sexual things to a young child? Because that is sure how you are coming across.

Nanaof1 · 21/07/2024 01:59

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 21/07/2024 01:15

So because a young child did not repeat something they said happened then it never happened? Is that your reality? I pray nothing ever happens to any of your children because you seem to automatically side with the man awfully easily. A young child doesnt just make these things up (and if she's not young and she did make it up, thats a problem too). How often have abusers got away with it because their victim became too scared to "repeat it"

Geeze! It was something SAID, not done. You cannot put someone in jail for something they "might' have said if no one will confirm it.

Get a grip and learn how to read and comprehend.

And save your f'in prayers. My DD was a victim, and he got jail time because I fought for her. So save your false sense of self-righteous indignation and stick it.

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YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 21/07/2024 01:28

I think the craziest part of this whole post is how many people are standing up for the father. MN is usually full of "man hate" and how horrible a man is because he did some small insignificant thing. LTB yelled over the smallest thing. And I usually feel bad that so many men on here are automatically assumed evil just because they have a penis. Now we have a small child (assuming again, since she never said how old, but seems from the description she is young) saying she was told something sexual by her father and MN is all he didnt do anything wrong, she didnt repeat it. Have I fallen down the rabbit hole? Is this really MN?

Allthehorsesintheworld · 21/07/2024 01:26

AnotherNaCha · 21/07/2024 00:10

The gaslighting is making out the allegation was my fault.

So as I understand it your ex thinks you made your child make the allegation?

I think it’s rare for a child ( you don’t say how old) to make sexual abuse allegations that are unfounded. Would it be possible for your child to see a therapist ? I agree it’s best for you not to ask questions though it’s natural to want to, but a trained therapist would know the right way to encourage your child to speak and would hopefully know truth from made up story.

I think you can apply through the courts representing yourself. Maybe worth looking into?

Unfortunately unequal finances give the wealthier partner the upper hand and you can see you put yourself in a vulnerable position. Looks like he’s going to exploit that to the full.

Tagyoureit · 21/07/2024 01:22

Nanaof1 · 21/07/2024 01:15

I think you need a bigger stick to hit people over the head with the truth.

It still wasn't good and verbally abusive to his DD, telling her something that was sexual in nature, no matter who it was about. I wish the DD had been brave enough to tell her story to the police or whoever helps with this kind of problem.

I wish I knew what he said, but then, I admit I'm nosy.

Yes, I agree.

Tagyoureit · 21/07/2024 01:20

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 21/07/2024 01:15

So because a young child did not repeat something they said happened then it never happened? Is that your reality? I pray nothing ever happens to any of your children because you seem to automatically side with the man awfully easily. A young child doesnt just make these things up (and if she's not young and she did make it up, thats a problem too). How often have abusers got away with it because their victim became too scared to "repeat it"

Thank you!

Nanaof1 · 21/07/2024 01:15

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 21/07/2024 00:57

People really don't seem to understand that the OP's ex was accused of SAYING something of a sexual nature.

He was never accused of DOING something of a sexual nature.

I think you need a bigger stick to hit people over the head with the truth.

It still wasn't good and verbally abusive to his DD, telling her something that was sexual in nature, no matter who it was about. I wish the DD had been brave enough to tell her story to the police or whoever helps with this kind of problem.

I wish I knew what he said, but then, I admit I'm nosy.

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 21/07/2024 01:15

Nanaof1 · 21/07/2024 01:07

TRY to read and comprehend. It had NOTHING to do with sexual abuse! It was something SAID to the daughter, and it ended up being nothing, since the DD would not repeat what he SAID. Not sure why you are so, so focused on sexual abuse that didn't happen, but, frankly, it's a bit creepy.

Please, get some help. If you have children under your care, I am scared for them. You are too easily angered and fly off the handle with no reason.

So because a young child did not repeat something they said happened then it never happened? Is that your reality? I pray nothing ever happens to any of your children because you seem to automatically side with the man awfully easily. A young child doesnt just make these things up (and if she's not young and she did make it up, thats a problem too). How often have abusers got away with it because their victim became too scared to "repeat it"

QuackQuackFuckThat · 21/07/2024 01:11

I’m sorry you’ve been though this OP, I have recently had similar happen and it is the most distressing thing ever to think something like that could have happened to your child. My DC made it up, it’s still quite hard to fathom but they have a very overactive imagination and think she combined things they’ve heard at school with bad feelings about dad because he’s pretty shit (but not for those reasons). I now know it was not true.

I my case, I’m pretty sure they didn’t tell my ex. I asked them not to unless they were absolutely sure.

How does your exH know? Did the police contact him?

I reckon he would have withdrawn the money etc anyway. You’re still entitled to maintenance etc. You need a good solicitor.

Tagyoureit · 21/07/2024 01:11

Nanaof1 · 21/07/2024 01:07

TRY to read and comprehend. It had NOTHING to do with sexual abuse! It was something SAID to the daughter, and it ended up being nothing, since the DD would not repeat what he SAID. Not sure why you are so, so focused on sexual abuse that didn't happen, but, frankly, it's a bit creepy.

Please, get some help. If you have children under your care, I am scared for them. You are too easily angered and fly off the handle with no reason.

Mmm yes, OK, I'll report myself to the mumsnet police for my kids sleeping safely in their beds with no allegations of anything!!

Would you like to arrest me now or, mmm, maybe later?

Nanaof1 · 21/07/2024 01:07

Tagyoureit · 21/07/2024 00:41

I'd rather be on the bread line prostituting myself rather than taking any money off a man whose sexually abused my child!!

Sit on your high and mighty throne all you want, but until you're in that position, don't judge!

TRY to read and comprehend. It had NOTHING to do with sexual abuse! It was something SAID to the daughter, and it ended up being nothing, since the DD would not repeat what he SAID. Not sure why you are so, so focused on sexual abuse that didn't happen, but, frankly, it's a bit creepy.

Please, get some help. If you have children under your care, I am scared for them. You are too easily angered and fly off the handle with no reason.

Differentstarts · 21/07/2024 01:06

Does your ex and his family think you told your daughter to say that to get back at him. You haven't said how old your daughter is but she seriously needs therapy if she's either been sexualy abused or lying about being sexualy abused as neither of them things are OK. If it's the latter she needs to understand the consequences that can have on the person accused and also to people who have been sexualy abused and not believed.

Tagyoureit · 21/07/2024 01:05

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 21/07/2024 00:55

I'm so confused. How old is your dd? She said something about something sexual. Something that made you report it, as you should. Now you say well her father didnt do it. Okay, well SOMEONE did. I'm assuming she is a very young child. They dont just make up sexual things happening to them. I'm confused how this is not the most important thing on your mind. SOMEONE has done SOMETHING to your child!

This!

AnotherNaCha · 21/07/2024 01:04

BlackShuck3 · 21/07/2024 00:59

So sorry to hear of your very difficult situation OP. My sense is that this man is punishing you for the stain to his reputation, not because you are to blame but because punishing you makes him feel better. In other words he's taking out his anger on you, using it as an excuse to land some blows.

Absolutely spot on! His reputation and image as a “great guy and great dad” is ALL he cares about. You’ve nailed it

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Tagyoureit · 21/07/2024 01:02

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 21/07/2024 00:55

That's your proof?

Please never accept if you get called for jury service...

Oh I have been called for jury service. Null and void point though isn't it?

You're telling me that your dd says something against your dh and you're laying there at night, all happy because it hasn't been proven by people that don't live inside your house?
Yikes!!

This is the reason why women don't report rapes, because no one ever believes us!

He lived in the house.
He was our friend.
He was nice to us.
I smiled at him.

Yada, yada

MonsteraMama · 21/07/2024 01:02

Tagyoureit · 21/07/2024 00:55

Well clearly you have, all hail! You must be the expert and whatever anyone else says is clearly wrong....

I could say the same to you.

You can't say out of one side of you mouth "don't judge if you haven't been in a situation" and then make up scenarios in your head and victim blame the OP based on those assumptions out the other side.

I think you need to step away from this thread and hide it. It's clearly upsetting you to the point your ability to read, reason and communicate like a grown up has been impaired.

AnotherNaCha · 21/07/2024 01:02

MonsteraMama · 21/07/2024 00:49

Have you escaped an abusive, coercive control relationship and had to deal with continued coercive control from your abuser along with the incredible strain of protecting your child through an abuse allegation investigation - despite knowing that this would result in your ostracisation from family who previously supported you and further abuse and control from your former abuser?

Because if not, sit on your high and mighty throne all you want, until you're in that position, don't judge.

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YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 21/07/2024 01:02

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 21/07/2024 00:57

People really don't seem to understand that the OP's ex was accused of SAYING something of a sexual nature.

He was never accused of DOING something of a sexual nature.

So saying sexual things to your young daughter is okay?
And since we have not been told what was said, but that it was obviously bad enough for them to investigate, we can only speculate.
Big difference between him saying to daughter "I want you to play with my penis in the bath" or him saying "that lady on tv has a sexy body" but considering it was actually investigated I'm going to assume its probably something pretty disturbing.

BlackShuck3 · 21/07/2024 00:59

So sorry to hear of your very difficult situation OP. My sense is that this man is punishing you for the stain to his reputation, not because you are to blame but because punishing you makes him feel better. In other words he's taking out his anger on you, using it as an excuse to land some blows.

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 21/07/2024 00:57

People really don't seem to understand that the OP's ex was accused of SAYING something of a sexual nature.

He was never accused of DOING something of a sexual nature.

PrimalOwl10 · 21/07/2024 00:56

Why do you want your exs money? To me it would be blood money. Just because he's wealthy shouldn't mean you are financially supported for life especially if you weren't even married. If that's the law that needs to change and so outdated for 2024. Totally different supporting a child but not continuing to support a fully grown adult. It reads like your bothered about the lack of money rather than the well being of your child. Surely your priority should be to ensure your child is adequately supported and has some form of counselling.

Tagyoureit · 21/07/2024 00:55

MonsteraMama · 21/07/2024 00:49

Have you escaped an abusive, coercive control relationship and had to deal with continued coercive control from your abuser along with the incredible strain of protecting your child through an abuse allegation investigation - despite knowing that this would result in your ostracisation from family who previously supported you and further abuse and control from your former abuser?

Because if not, sit on your high and mighty throne all you want, until you're in that position, don't judge.

Edited

Well clearly you have, all hail! You must be the expert and whatever anyone else says is clearly wrong....