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To think my DD17 is overthinking her bf's porn watching

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Thegreatprocrastinator001 · 20/07/2024 13:20

So my DD has been with her bf for 2 years and they are close but also have their own social lives. They're due to go abroad together to stay with family in a week. Today DD is saying she won't go and never wants to speak to him again bc she found out, but checking account histories, that at he looked up porn after she'd told him he shouldn't as it makes her insecure. I get she's annoyed that he lied but she's saying it's like cheating, that she can't trust him and she wants to break up with him. I know porn in general is exploitative with negative messages about sex but I really feel she doesn't appreciate most boys do look up porn - girls too probably - and that it could just be about sexual curiosity.

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BringMeTea · 20/07/2024 17:51

The Herberts are out in force. 17 year old girl and porn and sex.. rubbing their incel thighs saddos...

shuggles · 20/07/2024 17:50

@Megifer And is that the consensus? Either way there's a difference between an unsatisfying quickie and being jack rabbitted for a bloody age. But you know that I'm sure.

Fair enough.

But I will ask the previous question again: how do you know that your partner does not watch porn?

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 20/07/2024 17:50

shuggles · 20/07/2024 17:44

No, but you have to have a grown-up attitude and accept that people are different, and just because someone might look at porn does not mean they are cheating, or unfaithful, or that they don't love their partner.

Better to be accepting of a man who watches porn than to end up with one of those weird, effeminate, progressive feminist men who pretends that they do not watch porn and they find it unethical, but it turns out they secretly do watch porn and they are dishonest in a myriad of other ways.

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Yeah, it's probably better to end up with a porn watcher who is honest about it than one who lies about it. But women who don't want to be in a relationship with men who watch porn obviously want a man who doesn't watch it and is honest about it.

People say "aha! How do you know he's not lying?" Like it's some sort of gotcha, but it really isn't. A relationship takes trust. Of course I don't monitor partners. It's possible that they watch porn, cheat, take cocaine and have a secret second family. But if you love and trust each other you have to just trust that they are not deceiving you on purpose. You have to trust you've judged his character well enough. I mean, we all do that, regardless of porn stance. How do you know your husband doesn't cheat?

It's funny to me to see "progressive" and "Feminist" used as a an insult. God forbid a man wants me to have equal rights, eww!

Nanny0gg · 20/07/2024 17:50

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 15:53

That's a bit patronising. Porn actresses are adult women. The problem comes from being stigmatised for doing it (ironically by the people who claim to worry about vulnerable porn actresses).

Not all of them are by any stretch of the imagination!
Not all of them went into the 'industry' voluntarily

Is it a career you would choose? Is it a career you'd want your daughter to have?

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 17:50

Nanny0gg · 20/07/2024 17:47

So clearly you are ok with the trafficking and exploitation of vulnerable women (and some men)?

I think you can't imagine that women in porn enthusiastically participate because you yourself are neurotic about it.

Megifer · 20/07/2024 17:49

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 17:47

Males are extremely visually driven in terms of arousal. I think you know this.

You missed out why that requires porn.

shuggles · 20/07/2024 17:49

Nanny0gg · 20/07/2024 17:47

So clearly you are ok with the trafficking and exploitation of vulnerable women (and some men)?

If a young woman takes photographs of herself naked and gets a kick out of sharing them on a website, what aspect of that involved "trafficking and exploitation"?

Megifer · 20/07/2024 17:48

shuggles · 20/07/2024 17:38

@Megifer God yea, its so unsexy knowing that my other half doesn't have to watch porn,

How do you know that your partner does not watch porn?

that I don't have to endure being smashed into for ages because he's not watching someone else, err, being smashed into for ages.

Isn't the consensus that women prefer sex to last longer than it normally does? I accept that this may not be true and might just be a media stereotype, but I'm just pointing out that what you're saying contradicts the mainstream narrative.

has he told you he does? 😲

And is that the consensus? Either way there's a difference between an unsatisfying quickie and being jack rabbitted for a bloody age. But you know that I'm sure.

EsmeSusanOgg · 20/07/2024 17:48

Lordy me. Some of the comments on here.

Saying that many men and teens watch porn does not mean those same people watch porn when in a relationship.

It seems OP has reflected on comments made and using the helpful suggestions to support her DD. Good for OP.

Nanny0gg · 20/07/2024 17:47

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 15:48

A lot of women watch porn with their partners (or on their own). You don't have to do this, of course, but if it gives you the rage to imagine a male partner enjoying it sometimes on his own you are going to struggle in this world. I suppose this is why porn tastes are still asked about in security vetting interviews - some folk really seem triggered by it. Always surprises me.

So clearly you are ok with the trafficking and exploitation of vulnerable women (and some men)?

DragonFly98 · 20/07/2024 17:47

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 17:30

Do you think babies should only come from pure mental images of one's beautiful wife in sensible missionary?

Nope any conception that doesn't involve the exploitation and often rape of women is fine with me.

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 17:47

Megifer · 20/07/2024 17:44

Please, enlighten me, what the nature is of male sexuality that requires porn?

Males are extremely visually driven in terms of arousal. I think you know this.

StaunchMomma · 20/07/2024 17:45

Well done her!

Hopefully she, unlike many of her peers, won't be pressured into doing things she doesn't want to do. Younger men are demanding more and more from their partners in terms of providing for them what they watch on porn sites.

shuggles · 20/07/2024 17:44

Megifer · 20/07/2024 17:44

Please, enlighten me, what the nature is of male sexuality that requires porn?

Wanking.

Nanny0gg · 20/07/2024 17:44

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 15:44

I mean when I was 17 I was hugely prudish too I don't suppose it's a bad developmental stage to protect oneself in youth

Here we go with the pejorative terms again

It's not prudish to not want to watch porn

shuggles · 20/07/2024 17:44

Nanny0gg · 20/07/2024 17:41

So you have to watch porn for that?

No, but you have to have a grown-up attitude and accept that people are different, and just because someone might look at porn does not mean they are cheating, or unfaithful, or that they don't love their partner.

Better to be accepting of a man who watches porn than to end up with one of those weird, effeminate, progressive feminist men who pretends that they do not watch porn and they find it unethical, but it turns out they secretly do watch porn and they are dishonest in a myriad of other ways.

Megifer · 20/07/2024 17:44

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 17:37

I don't think you get the nature of male sexuality tbh. Sharing fantasies visually is the point of porn. When we're apart for work or whatever we share favourite clips as well as photos of each other. Ideas for next time we're together.

Please, enlighten me, what the nature is of male sexuality that requires porn?

Nanny0gg · 20/07/2024 17:43

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 15:43

True but I don't think she'll ever have a satisfying heterosexual relationship if she can't reconcile herself with porn. Not everyone likes it but most people (men and women) do.

That is complete and utter nonsense!

CurlewKate · 20/07/2024 17:42

The mumsnetters I don't understand are the ones who think masturbation and watching porn are the same thing. So if you are opposed on ethical grounds to porn you are also opposed to masturbation. Very odd indeed.

Nanny0gg · 20/07/2024 17:41

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 15:38

Because her mum wants her to be able to have satisfying adult relationships??

So you have to watch porn for that?

BringMeTea · 20/07/2024 17:39

😂

shuggles · 20/07/2024 17:38

@Megifer God yea, its so unsexy knowing that my other half doesn't have to watch porn,

How do you know that your partner does not watch porn?

that I don't have to endure being smashed into for ages because he's not watching someone else, err, being smashed into for ages.

Isn't the consensus that women prefer sex to last longer than it normally does? I accept that this may not be true and might just be a media stereotype, but I'm just pointing out that what you're saying contradicts the mainstream narrative.

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 17:37

Megifer · 20/07/2024 17:33

God yea, its so unsexy knowing that my other half doesn't have to watch porn, that my body is enough for him, im sexy enough, that I don't have to endure being smashed into for ages because he's not watching someone else, err, being smashed into for ages. (As per my porn loving exes. Funny how all my exes who were into porn were dog shit in bed)

So unsexy. Oh sorry, no its not 😏

I don't think you get the nature of male sexuality tbh. Sharing fantasies visually is the point of porn. When we're apart for work or whatever we share favourite clips as well as photos of each other. Ideas for next time we're together.

shuggles · 20/07/2024 17:35

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 17:30

Do you think babies should only come from pure mental images of one's beautiful wife in sensible missionary?

Some women on here want men who have a high sex drive so that they find them attractive and initiate relationships with them, but they also want these same men to have low sex drives so they won't watch porn. The contradiction goes completely over their heads.

Megifer · 20/07/2024 17:33

OptimismvsRealism · 20/07/2024 17:07

I don't need it but I can't imagine being with someone who hates it is very sexy. I imagine you'd be all "dominance is misogyny!" Or "spanking is assault!" every five minutes.

God yea, its so unsexy knowing that my other half doesn't have to watch porn, that my body is enough for him, im sexy enough, that I don't have to endure being smashed into for ages because he's not watching someone else, err, being smashed into for ages. (As per my porn loving exes. Funny how all my exes who were into porn were dog shit in bed)

So unsexy. Oh sorry, no its not 😏

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