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… for not saying “sorry” to husband

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TwoGirlsAndOneDog · 19/07/2024 22:28

Had a tricky bedtime with our 3.5 year old and 15 month old. 3.5 kept asking for “one more book” and we read several. I said it was lights out time and she asked for another one. I initially said “no” and she had a meltdown, so I gave in and offered to read one in the dark with the torch whilst settling 15m old. Husband was there and said “what the f**k is wrong with you?” and walked out.

I fully acknowledge and agree that I shouldn’t have given in, and only did so to avoid more tantrum. However, when I went downstairs, husband basically said “well are you going to apologise for what happened?”. My view is that I have nothing to apologise to him for; I am not accountable to him for my parenting blips and, whilst I am annoyed with myself and should be sorry to 3.5 for potentially creating confusing boundaries, it had nothing to do with him. It would be different if he was the one to say “no more books” and I then said ok to another, I get that because it would be undermining to him. But in this case I undermined myself not him.

He says that I should apologise and am accountable to him because we should always be accountable to one another for parenting and apparently he can’t do things when I’ve said “no” but I can always change my mind for myself. I don’t think that’s true and I think he allows plenty of things that one or both of us have said “no” to.

Also, very annoyed (and regularly annoyed) about the language he uses in front of the children and the way he talks to me generally.

YABU - We should be accountable to one another as parents and I should say sorry.

YANBU - He’s being a self-absorbed douchebag.

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AuntMarch · 20/07/2024 11:31

He shouldn't talk to you like that ever, but especially nor in front of your children.

He can't criticise your parenting for giving in to read a story (the horror), when his parenting choice is to give them that role model! In that moment he was a poor husband and a poor father. Only you know if that's usual.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/07/2024 11:25

Unless you've bollocked him previously for going to read one more story because 'it'll reward her for having a tantrum/undermines everything I'm trying to do', he's being a dick.

AdoraBell · 20/07/2024 11:21

YANBU OP

I would apologise for having children with him and say I will never make that huge error again.

In future when DD wants “one more” after a second story say - you’ve just had one more. It may result in a tantrum but stick to your guns and she will learn that 1 more really is one more. Toddlers need to push boundaries and also learn where the boundaries are firm.

Evaka · 20/07/2024 11:14

He sounds like a mentalist. I don't like the idea of grown ass people demanding apologies from each other as a rule anyway.

lottiegarbanzo · 20/07/2024 10:45

What the fuck is wrong with him??? He's going to have some really interesting conversations ahead, when nursery and school teachers have to deal with your child's use of 'fuck' in class.

Other parents may not want their dcs to be friends with 'that' child.

That aside, he needs to work with you not against you and parenting has to be cooperative.

MzHz · 20/07/2024 09:27

TwoGirlsAndOneDog · 19/07/2024 23:01

Thanks. No strategies agreed between us, just me changing my own position.

We try to do bedtime together when he’s home but I do most of the time as he works later/isn’t home.

Well… you do your bedtimes yourself when he’s not there, so he can do them himself when he is home.

let him do him, and you do you.

as for the story book thing tell dc
to choose - say - 2 books and those are the books. Tell them that is the choice for the evening,

In your head/planning allow for 1 more as a bonus, and if they’ve been good and you have the time, use it as a reward.

you will never regret the books you read your child, you will miss that time with them for far far longer than you’ll be doing it. Yes of course there need to be boundaries but there are some things you can flex a bit on, focus on behaviour and respect

your h should be apologising to you for the swearing at you AND in front of the kids. That’s a total wrong.

id point out to him that he didn’t set a boundary (as he never does) so there is nothing for you to apologise for. However in future, perhaps he can do bed times when he’s home and you do them when he is not.

give him a bit of load. He has to learn to parent his kids and set boundaries and not have anyone to offload this to.

ImustLearn2Cook · 19/07/2024 23:33

My dd’s dad gives in at extra bedtime stories to the point that lights out happens an hour or more later. And while I have discussed with him the importance of a consistent bedtime routine, I have never expected an apology or said what the fuck is wrong with you.

Yanbu and your dp’s behaviour is not ok.

stonedaisy · 19/07/2024 23:29

Yanbu

Unfortunately you've had children with an absolute dickhead.

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 19/07/2024 23:26

ilikemethewayiam · 19/07/2024 23:12

Jeez, the amount of entitled ‘king of the castle’ husbands I hear about on MN boggles the mind!

I need to get off this site because I'm starting to hate men.

SummerDays2020 · 19/07/2024 23:18

Oh come on! You read your DC and extra story. I don't even understand why you're annoyed with yourself etc. You read a bloody story! It honestly will make no difference. Honestly when they have grown up you won't think 'I should have been more strict and read less stories!' You will be glad you read the extra stories. There is no need whatsoever to be so strict. It's just not necessary. So no, you don't owe him or anyone else an apology. You did nothing wrong!

Goldbar · 19/07/2024 23:15

He sounds aggressive and nasty. If your kids are talking to you in this way in a few years' time, there will be no prizes for guessing where they picked it up.

On the bedtime issue, yes parents might discuss together the need for consistency and how it would make life easier. But hectoring the other parent over minor things is abusive behaviour imo.

ilikemethewayiam · 19/07/2024 23:12

Jeez, the amount of entitled ‘king of the castle’ husbands I hear about on MN boggles the mind!

Jeschara · 19/07/2024 23:12

TwoGirlsAndOneDog · 19/07/2024 22:47

I also understand annoyance. But does that mean I should say sorry to him?!! I haven’t done anything to him…

No, don't apologise, he lost the moral high ground when he used that language.

Musntapplecrumble · 19/07/2024 23:09

Totally understand OP; why on Earth does he want an apology 🙄 he should be apologising to you for his language...
And I wouldn't give in to tantrums from the kids (or himGrin)

StSwithinsDay · 19/07/2024 23:04

What will happen when your 3 year old says 'what the fuck is wrong with you'?
Will he care?

Jeschara · 19/07/2024 23:03

Allfur · 19/07/2024 22:45

What bollocks, one story's not going to fragment the family unit, the man was an over bearing arse.

Your opinion, I disagree. The only one talking bollocks is you, can't you give a opinion without resulting to insults, if you have kids you are not a good example.
Don't agree with me, start swearing at me.

Dinosweetpea · 19/07/2024 23:01

Allfur · 19/07/2024 22:45

What bollocks, one story's not going to fragment the family unit, the man was an over bearing arse.

This. Who hasn't read their child an extra story! He's a twat.

TwoGirlsAndOneDog · 19/07/2024 23:01

AnneLovesGilbert · 19/07/2024 22:36

It was an extra story, not a crack pipe. He’s being horrible. Has he apologised for being so nasty to you and in front of the kids? That’s way more damaging than a bit of pandering/peace keeping to a small child.

Being consistent is generally helpful for everyone. If there’s a pattern of you agreeing strategies between you and you undermining him I can see why that would be frustrating. Though still no excuse to treat you like an errant employee.

On your death bed will you be counting up the things you wish you’d said no to, like extra bedtime stories? Or will you be thinking you could have been right or happy and chosen the latter?

Why are you putting them both to bed?

Thanks. No strategies agreed between us, just me changing my own position.

We try to do bedtime together when he’s home but I do most of the time as he works later/isn’t home.

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Spirallingdownwards · 19/07/2024 22:58

TwoGirlsAndOneDog · 19/07/2024 22:50

The boundaries weren’t decided together. I said “no” at first without any input from him and then gave in. I fully agree that I shouldn’t have given in, but does that mean I should say sorry to him?! I undermined myself not him/us?!

No which is why I said neither of the voting options are suitable for me to vote on.

Try to agree a routine that you both want to adhere to and stick to it. It is easier all all round especially for the child.

newhousenewhouse · 19/07/2024 22:56

He sounds like a total dickhead. It was a book ffs. DC are only little for a short time plus sounds like it saved a longer time putting to bed if the tantrum had got bigger. No way do you owe him an apology.

thequeenoftarts · 19/07/2024 22:51

Yep I agree with your husband, you were in the wrong and you do need to apologise

For marrying the fucker in the first place, I hope he ain't holding his breath for that apology

TwoGirlsAndOneDog · 19/07/2024 22:50

Spirallingdownwards · 19/07/2024 22:36

Neither of your options are suitable . But you are making a rod for your own back and therefore his too if you don't stick ro boundaries you have decided on together regarding bedtime.

The boundaries weren’t decided together. I said “no” at first without any input from him and then gave in. I fully agree that I shouldn’t have given in, but does that mean I should say sorry to him?! I undermined myself not him/us?!

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TwoGirlsAndOneDog · 19/07/2024 22:47

Jeschara · 19/07/2024 22:44

Language unacceptable, but your parenting was wrong, you gave in and this will cause problems for you both.
I can understand his annoyance.

I also understand annoyance. But does that mean I should say sorry to him?!! I haven’t done anything to him…

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TwoGirlsAndOneDog · 19/07/2024 22:46

FOJN · 19/07/2024 22:40

He shouldn't have spoken to you like that but he will have to deal with the consequences of your inconsistent boundaries or your children will learn that dad means what he says but a tantrum can get mum to change her mind, that will make your life far more difficult.

I think you need to reach agreement on parenting and back each other. He's being a dick but you seem to think his thoughts on parenting don't matter.

That’s not it. I agreed with him that I shouldn’t have given in. What I don’t agree with is that he wants an apology from me. He also sets zero boundaries, which is the only reason that he doesn’t change the goalposts as there aren’t any.

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Allfur · 19/07/2024 22:45

Jeschara · 19/07/2024 22:44

Language unacceptable, but your parenting was wrong, you gave in and this will cause problems for you both.
I can understand his annoyance.

What bollocks, one story's not going to fragment the family unit, the man was an over bearing arse.