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To ask if I’m being shortsighted about the number of children we want to have

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youngoneanddone · 19/07/2024 20:16

DH and I used to talk about wanting a big family when we first got together. We were very young then and having several more years of adulting behind us, we both feel pretty sure we are content sticking with baby DD. There are a number of reasons for this but the main ones being to guarantee we can provide for her financially and support her in the future as well as having enough time for each other and our marriage - we both work busy jobs and I want to minimise the mental load and be present for DD, DH and myself. Multiple kids only looks fun if one parent can significantly drop their working hours or be a SAHM, or earns enough to afford extra household support like cleaners or a nanny. Otherwise I imagine it is stress on stress.

A few relatives have said to me that we are SO young to make this decision, we have plenty of time to have a large age gap, etcetera. All of this is true. I know circumstances can change.

AIBU thinking we’ll stick to this decision? Did anyone else decide this at a young age?

Edited: doh, left out our ages!! That would help! We’re mid 20s.

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JHound · 26/07/2024 15:01

youngoneanddone · 19/07/2024 20:16

DH and I used to talk about wanting a big family when we first got together. We were very young then and having several more years of adulting behind us, we both feel pretty sure we are content sticking with baby DD. There are a number of reasons for this but the main ones being to guarantee we can provide for her financially and support her in the future as well as having enough time for each other and our marriage - we both work busy jobs and I want to minimise the mental load and be present for DD, DH and myself. Multiple kids only looks fun if one parent can significantly drop their working hours or be a SAHM, or earns enough to afford extra household support like cleaners or a nanny. Otherwise I imagine it is stress on stress.

A few relatives have said to me that we are SO young to make this decision, we have plenty of time to have a large age gap, etcetera. All of this is true. I know circumstances can change.

AIBU thinking we’ll stick to this decision? Did anyone else decide this at a young age?

Edited: doh, left out our ages!! That would help! We’re mid 20s.

Why are your relatives even commenting? It’s a private decision for you and your partner.

Conniebygaslight · 21/07/2024 11:45

TheMerryTiger · 20/07/2024 20:31

How dare you - this is a private and personal issue. We chose to have only one child - and now he is a 21 year old and the most caring lovely person.

How dare I what?
Offer an opinion on a forum and say that others might be different?!
🤣🤣🤣

bookworm14 · 21/07/2024 07:53

People on Mumsnet are so weird about only children! It’s really very odd.

Ain't that the truth.

OP, I wouldn’t decide now. You may change your mind or you may not, and either is fine.

IamMoodyBlue · 21/07/2024 07:41

Perfectly reasonable. Shows maturity and wisdom that you are thinking carefully about your family and future. Life is not One size fits all.
Perhaps you'll think differently in a few years, perhaps you won't. What you are doing is not allowing the expectations of others to influence your decision, which is a sound way to live your life. It is absolutely your choice!

Atina321 · 21/07/2024 05:42

Why is how many children you have any one else’s business?

Firefly1987 · 21/07/2024 01:55

Sleepersausage · 19/07/2024 21:57

Good luck when they're adults and all hate each other and won't sit around the dinner table together (observations of DH's family)

Yup we had to have separate birthday meals for my parents and alternate Christmases as my siblings can't be in the same room as each other. It ruined a lot of special occasions for my parents.

I don't know why there is such a stigma against onlies on here. My mum is an only child and she never felt she missed out. She did say she wished she had someone to help carry the burden of caring for elderly parents with but at the same time "couldn't ever imagine having to share my parents!" there are good and bad points about both. Two of my best friends at school were onlies, most well-adjusted people I know with loads of friends.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 21/07/2024 01:41

You have plenty of time to decide, so just wait and see how you feel!

I decided to have a second in part because I worried that having an only child was a bit too “eggs in one basket” —like, having overly high parental expectations invested in one person. Having a second made me feel a bit more relaxed about parenthood. I also worried about an only child feeling burdened by elderly parents as we got older.

BlueInk1234 · 21/07/2024 01:37

youngoneanddone · 19/07/2024 20:16

DH and I used to talk about wanting a big family when we first got together. We were very young then and having several more years of adulting behind us, we both feel pretty sure we are content sticking with baby DD. There are a number of reasons for this but the main ones being to guarantee we can provide for her financially and support her in the future as well as having enough time for each other and our marriage - we both work busy jobs and I want to minimise the mental load and be present for DD, DH and myself. Multiple kids only looks fun if one parent can significantly drop their working hours or be a SAHM, or earns enough to afford extra household support like cleaners or a nanny. Otherwise I imagine it is stress on stress.

A few relatives have said to me that we are SO young to make this decision, we have plenty of time to have a large age gap, etcetera. All of this is true. I know circumstances can change.

AIBU thinking we’ll stick to this decision? Did anyone else decide this at a young age?

Edited: doh, left out our ages!! That would help! We’re mid 20s.

Did you consider whether DD would like to have siblings? I have many good friends but my sister is the only one who has been through the same experiences I have and I’m always grateful for that.

FranceIsWhereItsAt · 20/07/2024 20:41

I actually think that you're being very responsible OP. Choosing to only have one child, having realised that that is all you can afford, seems to be incredibly rare these days. It seems most people just have as many as they want without a thought as to how they will pay for them if times get hard. When we decided to start a family, we decided that I would work for 12 months, and save every penny I earned, in order to be sure we could cope on DH's salary. We could, so we then started TTC, not only knowing that we could cope financially, but also with a nice nest egg from my saved salary, to pay for all the expenses of having a first child. We did think about having more than one, but having had a bad time when my baby was delivered, it put me off for a few years, and by then, we were happy with what we'd got. So my advice would be, stick with the one you have for now, and if time, desire, and finance all allow, by all means have another child/children at a later stage, but whatever you do, don't have more children just because other people think you should.

TheMerryTiger · 20/07/2024 20:31

Conniebygaslight · 19/07/2024 20:45

I wouldn’t just have1 child. I think it’s such a lot of responsibility to put on one person, being siblingless. But that’s me and it’s your life.

How dare you - this is a private and personal issue. We chose to have only one child - and now he is a 21 year old and the most caring lovely person.

BestZebbie · 20/07/2024 18:53

whyyy321 · 19/07/2024 21:20

I often torture myself with the same question, op. For us, it's about work, our mental health and having experience no village around us for the first year, awareness of how hard it is to have zero time off. We do now have brilliant support as we've moved closer to family, but whilst they are happy to babysit and even do sleep overs with one DC, I'm not sure they would with another- plus grandparents would be older, etc

I struggle with it a lot, I feel a failure for not feeling that I could manage a second. But someone else put it well up thread, I'm not sure why I feel that way- I think it's just a sense of having a second being the "normal" thing to do, or expected of us.

I don't really have time on my side (mid 30s) either! Lots of people mention the whole coping with elderly parents alone thing but I hope that by sticking with one we can financially prepare ourselves for care homes etc to hopefully prevent DC having to be actively involved if they don't want to be. I am sad to think they'd not have a sibling to remember their childhood with, though.

It's a hard one, but whatever you decide will be ok as you'll never know the other path.

Wrt to the elderly parents thing, that is one of the main reasons I'm glad to be an only child myself - all I ever hear from peers and forums etc seems to be

  1. My sibling leaves me to do all the work, it's not fair, I'm resentful
  2. My sibling and I (or even worse, my sibling's spouse and I) can't agree on what is best for our parents and there is a lot of guilt and shame all around
  3. My sibling and I have fallen out over potential inheritance
Senzafine · 20/07/2024 18:51

That should say "also for some" not "also for some reason"!

Senzafine · 20/07/2024 18:39

EndlessTreadmill · 20/07/2024 17:04

This. Fundamentally, very little difference in mental load etc between one and two children. On the contrary, 2 kids close together entertain each other, and just make life so much more FUN for each other !
But I would definitely have them close together. Very dull otherwise, you are just stuck in the baby zone forever, can’t travel, they don’t want to watch the same thing on TV etc.

This is absolute rubbish. There's no guarantee that siblings will make life more fun or always get on. Also for some reason the mental load is so much more that it can impact on mental and physical health.

And it's only on here there's this ridiculous notion you have to have kids close together for them to get on. I had a twin who I had nothing in common with and was always much closer to my other sibling 4 years older. We always went on holidays, day trips and played together. Age was never an issue. Neither was it for my partner and his brother who is 5.5 years younger. They've always had loads in common and are still incredibly close.

The narrow mindness on here astounds me at times.

EndlessTreadmill · 20/07/2024 17:04

Mystro202 · 19/07/2024 21:00

I agree with PP. If you change your mind down the line you are back into nappies & sleepless nights when you could have it all over with.
Just another perspective, I was an only child and always wished for a sibling. I was lonely even though I had plenty of cousins & friends. I always wished for someone to have my back at school.
Thinking of the future too, your DC may be left alone to deal with you and dh when you are elderly.
It may be a lot for one person.
However, other factors could make this happen too even if you had more than 1 eg if one of them moved abroad. At the end of the day it's up to you and DH only.

This. Fundamentally, very little difference in mental load etc between one and two children. On the contrary, 2 kids close together entertain each other, and just make life so much more FUN for each other !
But I would definitely have them close together. Very dull otherwise, you are just stuck in the baby zone forever, can’t travel, they don’t want to watch the same thing on TV etc.

TypingoftheDead · 20/07/2024 16:58

Mystro202 · 19/07/2024 21:00

I agree with PP. If you change your mind down the line you are back into nappies & sleepless nights when you could have it all over with.
Just another perspective, I was an only child and always wished for a sibling. I was lonely even though I had plenty of cousins & friends. I always wished for someone to have my back at school.
Thinking of the future too, your DC may be left alone to deal with you and dh when you are elderly.
It may be a lot for one person.
However, other factors could make this happen too even if you had more than 1 eg if one of them moved abroad. At the end of the day it's up to you and DH only.

I think every child has a different experience - I was adopted and my adoptive parents had a bio son (a bit older than me). We get on perfectly fine as adults, but didn’t like each other much as children - he didn’t have my back at school and we rarely played together at home.
I have bio siblings, too, not sure how they got on when very young but when I met my bio brother (as teenagers), he wasn’t getting along with our younger sister, either.
I think a lot depends on the children’s personalities (which can’t be predicted) and what’s going on around them (I grew up in covert domestic abuse, they grew up with an absent father and mentally ill mother).

Didimum · 20/07/2024 12:09

I don’t see the point in thinking about this, OP. Just crack on with life and see how you feel. Certainly don’t consider what others think.

GettingAroundTown · 20/07/2024 12:06

@Strawberriesandpears @Busybeemumm well it's not really the point of the thread , but you're not wrong for feeling how you feel. Nobody is.

I'm an only child and can't relate to anything you say. I love it, sole charge, all their attention and resources for me. There's more including how my parents siblings treated them and grandparents causing a lot of hurt but I'll leave that out.

The point is, you'll never know how any specific child will feel about their family situation. All children and families are different.
So as a parent, this shouldn't be a consideration. Have the kids cos you want them.

marshmallowfinder · 20/07/2024 11:53

I think you're incredibly sensible and sounds like the right decision. The planet is so crowded too, so environmentally it's a great decision too.

Senzafine · 20/07/2024 11:44

I would really park any of these suggestions to have more children so they are there for you when your older. I actually think it's quite a grotesque reason to have children. Children are people in their own right. They shouldn't be born with the expectation they'll be future carers.

I work in Older adult care. Myself and my colleagues will tell you that the vast majority of our cases, it's normally one child who manages everything anyway with endless, endless stories of siblings falling out or not involved or having moved away. And while it is hard, they manage to cope just fine. Its the one thing I'm not worried about at all having one!

You have the right number of children that is right for you. Life isn't black and white and there's about a 1000 different scenarios and variables that can play out with having children.

Itsjustmeheretoday · 20/07/2024 10:03

Why does what anyone think matter? You do what's best for you and your family.

ladygindiva · 20/07/2024 09:56

Letsgocamping67 · 19/07/2024 21:50

Good luck for the 5 to 10 years that DC cries and winges they are bored, lonely and have no one to play with. Just another view.

Rubbish. DC 1 grew up an only ( 18 year gap before DTs came along) and was never bored, and is an incredibly self sufficient resourceful person. My twins? Always bored. Always falling out. Very needy. Non stop whinging. An only child is a blissful experience for all concerned ime.

Username1010 · 20/07/2024 09:49

BenchyMcBenchFace · 20/07/2024 04:12

I really hate the idea that people think of children as future carers for themselves when they’re “old and needy” and so have multiples just to spread the burden out. That’s pretty crappy in and of itself, but it also denies the reality that for most existing families it always falls down to one grown child to actually do the caring anyway. I’m one of five, and everything falls to me. Wouldn’t have mattered if I’d been an only child or of my parents had had another six.

Edited

I agree. And who is to say an only child will (or should) take it on themselves to stick around and look after elderly parents. They could emigrate and never return.

People are people. If they are nearby and open to helping elderly parents, it doesn’t matter if they is one child or one of three. The only difference having multiple children is that you are increasing the odds of one of them being around to help and if that’s your motive, you might as well have six or ten children to increase the odds further. Cheaper to save for a care home!

Caspianberg · 20/07/2024 05:38

I’m one of 3. Never played as children, never see them as adult. Having multiple children doesn’t mean they will have anything in common or help
with adult problems. The only thing I remember is constantly arguing as teenagers.

Ds is an only so far. He’s never been bored or lonely for another child to be living home 24/7. He gets contact now with other children at childcare and play dates or just out and about. He’s content playing with toys alone or with dh and I. And as just one child fits easier into days out or our working schedule

Neurodiversitydoctor · 20/07/2024 05:32

youngoneanddone · 19/07/2024 22:16

You could say that about anything. Studying towards a career, getting married, literally anything.

You could and I would, who else decides if you get married ? FGS

comoatoupeira · 20/07/2024 05:26

snowballsintheoven · 19/07/2024 20:53

When my babies were newborn to 1 year old I wanted oodles of babies

Adored them. Cried about not having newborn babies forever

Loved breastfeeding, little outfits and being pregnant

Then the toddler years

This is why I have 2 and made damn well sure I'd only ever have 2

Same

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