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AIBU to be so angry?!

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CatsRuleOkay · 19/07/2024 18:36

I split up with my ex about 6 years ago, we have a DD who is 12.

We started off doing 50:50 which I knew he wouldn’t be able to keep to as his job is so important to him. Pretty soon, we had after school club complaining he was always late & my DD complaining he was always shouting.

I now have her the majority of the time, she is not easy!

In the last week, my DD has been on holiday with my ex & it has been so chilled & peaceful at home, I feel like a new woman!

My ex & I do exactly the same job, both full time. AIBU to feel so angry that he gets a full week off every other week whereas it’s a luxury to me that happens once every few years?!

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WhatATimeToBeAlive · 20/07/2024 16:01

Well I suppose at least you get EOW to yourself which most parents who are together wouldn't get.

XChrome · 20/07/2024 03:11

redalex261 · 20/07/2024 01:34

Quite a collection of saintly mummies on this thread who never find parenting a chore, cherish every moment with their offspring, have offered unlimited calm support and nurturing without a day off since bringing them into the world!

Get over yourselves - the woman is venting. She is a lone parent carrying she majority of the parenting burden because the child’s father rejected 50/50 as too much for him, although their work commitments are the same. She doesn’t have that choice (because she’s a decent parent) and picked up the slack. She doesn’t deserve to be mauled for enjoying the novelty of a child free week and being aggrieved it’s not more frequent.

Strangely, if the OP had posted she was living with her partner, doing the same hours as him but he was only doing
three fourteenths of the childrearing I’m sure there would be a chorus of LTB!

IKR. This competitive parenting crap is so gauche.

XChrome · 20/07/2024 03:09

EnglishBluebell · 19/07/2024 22:14

My god! You really don't like your DD, do you?

Another pious superparent heard from.
Gotta laugh at the way some people get an ego boost by slamming other mothers for admitting to perfectly normal feelings. How insecure can you get.

redalex261 · 20/07/2024 01:34

Quite a collection of saintly mummies on this thread who never find parenting a chore, cherish every moment with their offspring, have offered unlimited calm support and nurturing without a day off since bringing them into the world!

Get over yourselves - the woman is venting. She is a lone parent carrying she majority of the parenting burden because the child’s father rejected 50/50 as too much for him, although their work commitments are the same. She doesn’t have that choice (because she’s a decent parent) and picked up the slack. She doesn’t deserve to be mauled for enjoying the novelty of a child free week and being aggrieved it’s not more frequent.

Strangely, if the OP had posted she was living with her partner, doing the same hours as him but he was only doing
three fourteenths of the childrearing I’m sure there would be a chorus of LTB!

Deebee90 · 20/07/2024 00:41

If he works the same job as you then why can’t he manage his time with her the same as you. If you can manage it then so can he. What would you prefer he do time wise

Gunz · 19/07/2024 23:19

When I split from my ex husband- he was the SAHF. My children were 3, 5 and 8. The children remained with me and I basically had to change job roles to move to a more 9-5 scenario. I was mighty relieved when we did alternate weekends and he had the children for two weeks on the summer holidays. It allowed me to have some sort of life and I would plan activities around my non children weekends.

YellowAsteroid · 19/07/2024 22:20

CatsRuleOkay · 19/07/2024 18:46

I’m angry that what I consider a luxury - a week to myself without having to worry about anyone else is a fortnightly occurrence for him.

he has her every Weds night & every other weekend so the weeks he doesn’t have her for the weekend, he has Weds - Weds off parenting.

He’ll reap what he does when she is less and less interested in spending time with him.

EnglishBluebell · 19/07/2024 22:16

Try being a lone parent! Thats a single parent who doesn't get any days off because the other parent is either gone or dead. It's 24/7 365. Be glad you get some time off and that your DD gets to see her DF.

SandyY2K · 19/07/2024 22:14

I hear what you're saying OP, but I would have thought it gets easier as your DD gets older.

I'm not a single parent and my kids are older now, but parenting mostly fell on me. Once they were in secondary school it was much easier and tbh, apart from having to think of and cook what they'd eat, they were quite self sufficient.

I know some kids are more challenging though and no matter how easy a child is..it's great to have a break from them. Peace and tranquility is priceless.

Your DD is nearly a teenager, s she hasn't done 50/50 up to now , she's not going want it. Kids who were doing 50/50 want to reduce our d they get older, not the other way round.

Most teenagers are always in their rooms, and/ on their phones. Just make sure you're setting her up to be independent and do things for herself without heavily relying on you. That will reduce the feeling of it being so heavy on you.

12 years are capable of doing they're own laundry and preparing basic meals.

EnglishBluebell · 19/07/2024 22:14

My god! You really don't like your DD, do you?

KiffiesGalore · 19/07/2024 22:03

I feel you OP. I have a partner and this year we can't all go away on holiday together so I am going with DF and DS.

My partner is staying at home to feed both households pets and possibly taking the week off to do some work around the house.

As sad as it is, I feel a bit jealous of my partner! He will have a week to himself of not worrying about anyone (except pets). He'll be able to wake up and go to sleep when he likes, have a lie in, not have to cook for anyone but himself, watch whatever he wants on tv, not have to worry about being woken up several times a night by DS and so on.

DS is beautiful but he is absolutely hard work when he wants to be and it is draining. Doesn't make you a bad parent to admit it and some people on this thread are trying to shame you when in reality I'm sure if they were honest they feel the same way sometimes.

andtheendwasgone · 19/07/2024 21:55

You and him are in the same job making 6 figures you don't need his shitty money ! Fuck him on that point when your child is an adult you can make it clear he paid nothing

You need to get to the root of what's going on with your child that's the main issue here. Get to the root so parenting isn't so hard for you

Get into therapy for yourself your stressed, your angry etc but it's all towards a man you doesn't give a shit how you feel. Time to take control of your own emotions! He isn't making you feel like shit your allowing yourself to feel like shit.

Part of being separated generally means the burden falls to one of the parents or the way it works for most separated parents. Rightly or wrongly that's just the way it is. If your child friends want 50/50 and neither does your ex there's nothing you can do. Get a cleaner, downsize if you need to so you have less mortgage/rent and more money so you can work less. You get the jist

Being angry or bitter is doing your child a disservice. Move on you still have every other weekend off and a Wednesday that's more than anyone who is not a single parent as they never have any time to themselves and in some families the one parent does do the majority of the parenting while the other parent is working 12 hour days or works away so the grass is not always greener

Undethetree · 19/07/2024 21:40

Honestly, some of these pious posts.....So it's unreasonable to be angry at a man who chooses to have a child but then opts out of being a father? Whilst actually standing up and doing the work of both parents yourself? Wow.

Yes, bringing children up is "work". We love them immensely and we're glad to do it but if we're doing it properly it can be exhausting. I also love my paid job, I go above and beyond and sometimes do unpaid hours but I still bloody love the weekend when I can switch off! OP doesn't "blame" her daughter at all, she blames her useless ex!

OP I think @Jumblebum is right and re-framing things may make you happier but YANBU to be angry.

Choochoo21 · 19/07/2024 21:37

Why can’t you go back to 50/50?

I am a single parent working FT and have absolutely no help from the dad (he’s never even had her for one night) or any of his/my family.

The idea of having EOW like you do, sounds like an absolute dream and I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t jealous of your lifestyle.

But I still completely understand where you’re coming from.

The mum is seen as the default parent and is expected to bare the majority of the load, even though they are as responsible for the child as the dad is, yet the dad seems to get away with the bare minimum.

Barbie222 · 19/07/2024 21:17

masomenos · 19/07/2024 19:14

So is this what life is like as a divorcee? “Time off”, “freedom”, “responsibility-free”?

Seems to have much to recommend it. The child is with their other parent so no loss to them. Why don’t we all do this?!

Because despite the hardships, they’re not meant to feel like a “job”. They’re always a responsibility, divorced or not. And the freedom ship sailed when you gave birth.

I think this is about life as a single mum being hard and looking for someone to blame. Because otherwise it sounds like you’re blaming your child for existing and needing to be raised.

Good post to consider OP. We're all picking up how you feel - so will she.

XChrome · 19/07/2024 21:00

HooverTheRoof · 19/07/2024 20:57

Yanbu op, it is shit that men get to opt out meanwhile a woman so much as enjoys a break from her kids and she's treated like some kind of pariah. I'm not a single parent and I'd fucking love a week off, I'm bloody knackered

Right. How dare a mother admit she enjoyed a break and that she resents shouldering most of the responsibility.

XChrome · 19/07/2024 20:58

Anonym00se · 19/07/2024 20:57

And the common denominator is always feckless fathers.

Yep. I wonder how long it will be before somebody does a NAMALT.

HooverTheRoof · 19/07/2024 20:57

Yanbu op, it is shit that men get to opt out meanwhile a woman so much as enjoys a break from her kids and she's treated like some kind of pariah. I'm not a single parent and I'd fucking love a week off, I'm bloody knackered

Anonym00se · 19/07/2024 20:57

XChrome · 19/07/2024 20:38

Exactly.
Looks like we have some more superparents, just like on that other thread about dads not supporting their kids. These woods are full of superparents.

And the common denominator is always feckless fathers.

XChrome · 19/07/2024 20:55

MissingKitty · 19/07/2024 20:43

I haven’t claimed to be a super parent. I said I’m a single parent and find it hard too, their dad never has them and it’s nice to have breaks but I’m not angry about the inequality or having my kids. My opinion is just as valid as yours, yet you insist on saying I’m dishonest, stupid, it’s bullshit. Not sure why you think you are so superior, we just have different opinions.

I wasn't talking to you or particularly even about you. There are a lot of superparents here shitting on the OP. It was a general comment about the nasty, condemning nature of these remarks.

I'm being "superior" by characterizing what some people say as bullshit and intellectually dishonest?
Nowhere is there a moral judgement in that. It's about the arguments you make, not you as a person. Just make better ones if you don't want any criticism of them.
I did not say you are stupid. I said a term that was used is hackneyed and stupid.

solice84 · 19/07/2024 20:48

I get it op
My ex has pretty much checked out of his responsibilities by drinking himself out of a driving license and job
He has his mother and new wife doing absolutely everything for him and I mean everything .
Everything falls down to me
Even when I'm putting a bin out I've caught myself thinking 'he doesn't even have to worry about putting a bin out as someone else does it for him '
He will never have to attend any of dcs appointments, school stuff etc. it's all down to me
So yeah I get it .

LostTheMarble · 19/07/2024 20:44

combinationpadlock · 19/07/2024 20:32

no martyrdom, I just enjoyed being a mother. Some people do find that very simple statement somewhat triggering, but that isn't my problem

Good for you. Not the point of the thread how wonderful you find it all. The point is why this child’s father isn’t pulling his equal weight. If he can’t do his bit without becoming angry, perhaps he needs parenting classes or counselling. Slowly start upping the time his daughter spends with him so both parents are doing enough for their child. Not one too much and one too little, it’s how burnout happens and both sides are unhealthy for the daughter to see.

Loloj · 19/07/2024 20:43

CatsRuleOkay · 19/07/2024 19:06

I think “most parents not having time off” aren’t single Mums who work full time.

Perhaps I’m an oddity for wanting time off from being responsible for everything but that’s how I feel.

On the face of it, we’re both her parents, we both work full time doing the same job but I carry the can for at least 80% of the parenting.

Every now & again, the unfairness of it hits me, like when she’s been away for a week - I’ve had time to myself, got the house in order, got on top of things & realised this is what his life is like all the fucking time.

You’re not being unreasonable at all OP. It’s hard and it’s not fair. When my son goes to his dads for the occasional week I do miss him but it is bliss! People saying you need to save up for therapy for her are being utterly ridiculous. You’re allowed to want some time to yourself. Could you suggest him having her more frequently? An extra night a week or something?

MissingKitty · 19/07/2024 20:43

XChrome · 19/07/2024 20:38

Exactly.
Looks like we have some more superparents, just like on that other thread about dads not supporting their kids. These woods are full of superparents.

I haven’t claimed to be a super parent. I said I’m a single parent and find it hard too, their dad never has them and it’s nice to have breaks but I’m not angry about the inequality or having my kids. My opinion is just as valid as yours, yet you insist on saying I’m dishonest, stupid, it’s bullshit. Not sure why you think you are so superior, we just have different opinions.

MissingKitty · 19/07/2024 20:40

Anonym00se · 19/07/2024 20:33

@MissingKitty Nowhere did OP say she feels punished by having to spend so much time with her daughter, you’ve made that up. She just said that her daughter is hard work (completely normal, most kids are hard work unless you’re neglecting them) and she’s enjoyed the rest. Again, it’s perfectly reasonable to enjoy a rest from hard work and responsibility. She’s also angry that this happens so rarely, when her ex who should be shouldering the responsibility EQUALLY isn’t. Once more, completely understandable.

Just feels like I’m being punished for being “the good guy” which is generally a Mum’s reality.

Her point is about having so much child with her daughter while her ex gets away with it…

And I agreed with her points about parenting being hard but I feel it’s unreasonable to be so angry, which is what she asked.