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Relocated for parents and they are MIA.

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Hereformysanity · 19/07/2024 15:06

Hi Mumsnet, I'm new to this so I'm very sorry in advance if I haven't got the lingo right! Hopefully it makes sense.

So long story short. 5 years ago my DH and I relocated to be closer to my parents after having our DD after they guilty tripped us about being too far away for them to spend time with her and get to know her. We were 2 hours away. We were looking to move anyway but had quite an open net just needed to be near to wither London or Manchester for work (we both work in corporate jobs which my mum in particular is very dismissive of as not a real job as you are just sat all day) but we were persuaded by my parents and in hindsight their passive aggressive attitude about us wanting to live elsewhere they were vocal and I quote 'it would be very selfish of us and stupid to give up grandparent help) but admittedly we liked the idea of grandparent help occasionally and didn't have in laws as they are overseas so any help was great.

So with that we moved closer to parents and brother and sister. 20 minutes away. My brother doesn't have kids but my sister has kids same age as mine and they live ten minutes closer to my parents.

Fast forward five years we now have DD and DS. I struggled with getting used to two DH was away a lot with work and I felt very alone and overwhelmed both kids at home. We have had very little help during the five years we have been here from my parents as they are 'too busy'. My parents both work part time to pay for a house that is big and empty and falling to pieces because they are too proud to downsize. I'm sure somewhere on here there will be a thread from my siblings about this matter as it's a real pain to see them moaning and moaning about still working to pay off their mortgage and do up their home when downsizing would be a very easy solution and would leave them much happier. We have concluded they like the stress and having something to moan about.

Anyway due to my parents working they have never once in 5 years offered childcare not a zip. When we moved I enrolled my DD in nursery 4 full days a week as parents never even offered as much as a morning once a week even bought I asked but took great pleasure in telling me how awful it is that I'm putting my child in nursery for someone else to raise.

I love my.job but more than that I have bills to pay but my DM in particular thinks it's selfish of me to work when I have children. (She only started working when my sister was 10 and had been a SAHM to that point with lots of grandparent help) My DD is now in school and has 3 days of after school clubs and DS in nursery 4 days as I have no other options and all I ever hear is tutting and "oh bless them, poor kids, I can't believe you just put them in and leave them all day like that". It's so hard not to lose my mind.

I would love my parents to do a pick up and take them home for tea or have my DS for just a morning to 'get to know him' but they have no interest in offering despite me saying how much I would love that. To add insult to injury they do this for my sister!

It's fine I'm managing it's just I have a lot of resentment that for the sake of keeping the status quo and everyone being pleasant I'm bottling it and it's causing me to harbour resentment which is not healthy and it's bloody hard seeing all these fab grandparents at the school gates or hearing friends talk about how lovely it is there parents have their children a few days a week or some even taking them on holidays!!!!!

The 6 weeks are here and I've had to arrange private childcare all the way apart from 10.days where between DH and myself we've managed to get some A/L to cover but we both work in teams of parents so everyone wants time off and simply you don't always get it. Despite me explaining this to my parents and saying how much it would be really helpful to get help to only have them say oh sorry we are working or are just we are busy but then go on to criticise what I have had to do!!!!! Raaaa
I feel like it comes from a place of bitterness that I lived away for ten years and then came back need help but they withhold as a bit of a ha you can't just come here and now have our help (despite that being exactly what they had said when we were looking at moving).

I just feel completely bashed. I work hard as we all do to give our kids the best start and pay for life which isn't cheap and to have been what felt like guilt tripping and huge promises about getting to know grandkids to get us here but now we are here I can count on one hand, in five years, how often my parents, who are ten miles away, have had the kids without me or husband present. On two hands I can count this and the times they have babysat for us for anniversary's but only once the kids are fast asleep will they come and sit in the house for us so they don't even see the kids. My kids are really easy going too thank god so it's not like they can't cope, my parents are young and active. Am I wrong to expect a bit more and to be sad that there's clearly favouritism towards my sister or just total disregard and possibly a little pleasure in seeing me try and have it all?

Whilst where we live is nice it's not where we would be for any other reason than family, I just feel like my parents made empty promises and they love to paint this image that they are really hands on with all grandkids and it's simply not true and they would not react at all well if I said any of this to them so I haven't forgotten the same of keeping the peace.

Sorry for the whingefest!

OP posts:
MagpieCastle · 19/07/2024 19:20

I recently heard a new phrase (for me) on this site - ‘future faking’ which referred to a partner but it really does sound similar to the job your parents have pulled on you.

Your future does not need to be dictated by this. Work out what you want the next five or so years to look like, not including their wishes, and build towards that. Otherwise it’s a half life built on on the dictate of others.

While I understand the ‘they work too/they didn’t promise’ point of view, the reality is that you were unlikely to have made the decision you did as a family without the idea of that implied backup. That’s not a loving thing for your parents to have done and now they have what they want without having to offer any help, even when it’s obviously needed. And as for the passive aggressive comments on your parenting…well they can just do one.

I wish you well and hope your next family home is someplace that brings support and joy.

GingerPirate · 19/07/2024 19:18

Cotonsugar · 19/07/2024 16:28

No kids, so why are you on Mumsnet then?
The OP’s mother wanted them to move closer and was complaining about not seeing her grandkids. She’s entitled to have a big house and mortgage but she complains about it. Not sure you’ve read the post😊

You can be on Mumsnet even if child free, it's for everyone, including male counterparts.
But I haven't read properly, you're right!

mrsdineen2 · 19/07/2024 19:17

itsmylife7 · 19/07/2024 15:32

You missed the "they do it for my sisters kids "

The type of poster who races to make the first dickish comment never reads the full post.

ThisHumanBean · 19/07/2024 19:11

OP life is too short to harbour such resentment. Your DC are young. Follow your heart and move to where you and your family will be genuinely happier and dont think twice about this.

Id also suggest counselling to deal with feelings about your relationship with your parents. They sound dreadful but they are obvs still your parents so i understamd gow hard it is to navigate.

ApplesOrangesBananas · 19/07/2024 18:50

I can see how you are feeling frustrated but it’s not like you would have had help had you not moved. Isn’t it nicer for your children to be closer to their cousins and see them more? Or visit grandparents at weekends?

Teawaster · 19/07/2024 18:50

I think you are getting a hard time here OP. Your mother sounds awful, bribing you into moving on the basis that some form of childcare would be provided or at least that they would be open to some grandparent involvement.
This doesn't seem to be the case.
And the worst thing is the criticism of you for using childcare.
Nothing you can do , but I'm afraid it would make me far less likely to provide support to them in their later years.

Violinist64 · 19/07/2024 18:48

I think l would be looking to move away to where you wanted to be in the first place. Your children sound as if they are still below school age, so that is not a problem. If (when) your parents object, you can tell them that they will be very welcome to come and visit and you will be back from time to time. There are phone calls and if they want to see their grandchildren in between there is FaceTime and the like.

GrannyRose15 · 19/07/2024 18:48

There’s something I don’t understand. You say your parents rarely see your children. Do you rarely see them? If so how can DM be always saying this or always saying that. Do you live in each others pockets or not? It should be possible to arrange life so you are not being subjected to negative comments on a regular basis. Even if you see them occasionally there shouldn’t be that many opportunities for them to say things that upset you. Try to build up your own life without relying on your parents for affirmation. This of course may be easier if you moved away. You can’t make your parents help out with childcare but you can start to feel better about your own choices so that DMs comments don’t hit a nerve so much.

5128gap · 19/07/2024 18:45

Six of one half a dozen of the other. Both of you think you know best how the other should run their lives, neither of you respect the others lives and choices, and both think the other should give up work to look after your children. Being more alike in this than youd want to acknowledge, you both thought to have a relationship that would be to your own best advantage, parents to see a lot of their GC without having to do childcare, you to get childcare. I don't think anyone in this scenario should be pointing fingers.

pollyglot · 19/07/2024 18:44

Your title is misleading. You didn't relocate for your parents at all. You relocated in the hope of childcare. Resentment about their being MIA drips from every line. You say that you could count "on two hands hands" the number of times they have looked after the kids, then say they have done 'not a zip". You are critical throughout your post. They should sell up and downsize so they don't have to work and can be more proactive...but then say they are young grandparents...so why shouldn;t they work if they choose, and after all everyone loves to moan about their job. Think about how you present yourself in your own words...

Cesarina · 19/07/2024 18:39

saraclara · 19/07/2024 17:54

It is classic boomer behaviour to want the upsides of being a grandparent but not to lift a finger in helping.

No it isn't @stressedout1994 . A large proportion of boomers all over the country are giving up their retirement plans in order to provide childcare. Something their own parents didn't have to do.
And most of those not doing regular childcare, are still helping out where they can.

There's not a single person of the baby boomer generation in my circle, that isn't going regular or 'when needed' childcare.

So less of the ageism, please.

👏👏👏

Gatecrashermum · 19/07/2024 18:26

Your parents have been completely unreasonable. Ignore people criticising you or saying you should have got firm offers from parents first - I'm sure they would have said whatever then changed their mind after.

Move away. Go and live somewhere that suits you, DH and children. Your parents are never going to help you, it's wildly unfair, but there we are.

take10yearsofmylife · 19/07/2024 18:25

hope247 · 19/07/2024 15:36

My own situation is very similar, my parents have taken care of my sister's children full time and saved her years of nursery fees. I can count on one hand the times they have had mine. They've even told they cant help me incase my sister needs them! I recognise that my parents treat me unfairly compared to my sister. I cope by going LC and keep conversations light.

Same here.

OnlyheretovoteonAIBU · 19/07/2024 18:21

Urgh, so many snide digs here from people selectively reading the original post so that they can delight in putting the boot into her for daring to think her parents might help out with childcare every so often after implying they would 🙄. No, grandparents don’t ‘owe’ childcare but most people care about their family and are happy to help out every so often. Also if they don’t offer childcare then they have no right to criticise the alternative childcare that OP has had to organise in place of their family help.

You’re not being at all unreasonable OP.

LabradorPacMan · 19/07/2024 18:19

Your only mistake was imputing good motives to them in the first place. Sounds like they just want to passively aggressively undermine you at every turn, and will use whatever excuse is to hand to do it.

Don't live nearby? Make digs about that.

Live nearby and use childcare? Make digs about that.

No doubt if you quit work to provide full time care for your "poor kids" they would make digs about that. You can't win.

Stop trying to please them, and stop thinking they will ever provide help. Live your life to suit you and your DH (and kids), and ignore / shut down their pass agg comments.

Comtesse · 19/07/2024 18:18

Time to put you and your family first. Not helpful plus rude and dismissive? No thanks!!

californiaisdreaming · 19/07/2024 18:16

UncharteredWaters · 19/07/2024 15:12

The next time there is any judgement I’d not be behind the back door in pointing all this out to them…..

‘poor baba at nursery…’
’are you offering childcare’
’we’re too busy’
’youre doing it for my sister…..’ and stop talking….

I was thinking the same thing. Every time they whinge I'd point out they offer childcare to your sister but not you and you struggle to work out why, so could they enlighten you and park the complaints.

Otherwise if my mum and dad complained every time I saw them I'd tell them every time shall I stop wasting my time visiting then if all you have is croci risk and see what they say.

Beautiful3 · 19/07/2024 18:13

Move away, somewhere you know you'll all love. Don't think of your parents at all. They encouraged you to move closer, but never helped! They'll never help, just do whatever's best for you as a family.

tealeaff · 19/07/2024 18:12

I'd be miffed too. Your parents said they would support you then haven't done it and are a source of criticism. They will probably expect support when they are older too.

I'd accept your lot. If they moan about you working and using child care be blunt. Say I have to work to pay the bills and I have no other choice for childcare do I?

If you are happy where you are great but if not I'd move to somewhere better suited.

Blondiebeachbabe · 19/07/2024 18:09

Where do your DH's parents live? I'd be very tempted to drop into conversation, that you are considering relocating to there, as it would be wonderful to have some hands on help from the grandparents. Let that sink in. I'd play along for months!

Have you considered moving away?

IVbumble · 19/07/2024 18:03

Do you think that somehow with their wish for you to move closer they believed they would be getting to spend more time with you & your DC - rather than providing care for the DC so that you can work.

oakleaffy · 19/07/2024 18:02

muddyford · 19/07/2024 15:44

What's MIA?

Missing In Action. {Usually used on a battlefield}

BlackShuck3 · 19/07/2024 18:00

If you stop keeping the peace/obeying them etc they will likely do all they can to bring you back into line.
Hold fast & ignore it all, watch them all scramble to try & steady the ship, see who they use as whipping boy when you refuse to be in that role.

Moglet4 · 19/07/2024 18:00

Growlybear83 · 19/07/2024 15:34

Why do people expect parents to downsize once children have left home? I see this so often on Mumsnet. OP - your parents are still clearly of working age and maybe they love their home and don't want to downsize? I reached retirement age last year but I'm still working part time, partly so that I can afford to continue to maintain our house and not be reliant on my pension. I have lived in my home for over 30 years and can see no reason why we should consider moving just because there's only the two of us here most of the time.

Because 1. Parents start to ask for more help because they are struggling to maintain the house but won’t admit it. 2. It’s socially selfish to hold onto large housing stock when there isn’t any for families.
Im not saying I agree with this btw but they are essentially the reasons

soberfabulous · 19/07/2024 17:56

They sound awful OP!

Have you ever raised this with them?

I agree with others that moving away could be the answer. Call me petty, but I would have to confront them about their behavior before I left.

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