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To think DH needs to pull his weight more

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Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:34

Hi everyone, looking for opinions on something I have been stewing over for ages. I think it's long, sorry.

DH and I have been married for 14 years and together for 16. He is 48 and I am 44. No kids, not for any real reason, just a combination of things (I know this is MN but I also value the honest advice so hope it's ok that I'm not actually a mum?).

Anyway, I have been working for 30 years now. My parents were very old-fashioned and insisted on me bringing an income into the home from when I was old enough to get a job. I was only allowed to stay on to do A levels providing I worked the equivalent of full-time and so was working 30 hours a week from the age of 16 onwards. Through uni I always worked, including 80 or 90 hours a week in the holidays.

I now have a very successful but very stressful job. I am expected to answer phone calls from junior staff day and night, always be on my emails, develop any new skill to support the business at the drop of a hat (I have just been put on a £5k professional diploma course without being asked and have had to then negotiate the time to attend the classes and the work). I am well paid for this and I am not trying to make out that I am hard done by. But the reality is that I am knackered and I feel like an old lady although I'm only 44. I am stressed, anxious, get depressed and have a therapist. I do feel I could burnout at any time.

DH works in a relatively low-skilled job, literally 8-5 M-F with an hour for lunch. No emails outside of work, no real responsibility. He earns about a third of what I do. I pay 2/3 of all our household expenses and have outgoings that he doesn't (I have a car, he can't drive; I'm expected to wear professional clothing at work which costs money, he has a uniform; I have to go to work events and conferences which I get reimbursed for but need money for upfront). I also spend a lot of money on health-related things that I feel I need (such as therapy, physio) while he doesn't have those kinds of costs. I am also putting a lot of my income into a pension (£500/month) for us to both live on when we retire as he has the auto-enrolment which he only started when he had to, when he was 40, and pays the minimum. We split most household chores 50/50, I cook a bit more because I enjoy it more. We also don't mind about what each spends our surplus income on.

DH has loads of skills, he is super literate and numerate, very clever, and quite frankly could do much better for work. However, every time I try to get him to consider changing jobs there is always a barrier. Not being able to drive is a big factor as it makes it hard to get to workplaces/be flexible but he adamantly won't learn. He won't consider any role which needs evening or weekend working. He isn't super IT literate and won't develop this although I have offered to fund training for him (in this or anything else). I recently started pushing him again to look for jobs and tbf he applied for a few but he always buggers the recruitment process up. He won't ask for advice from me (who recruits people as part of my job) or his sister who is a HR professional, so if he gets an interview he doesn't prepare and then just doesn't get the job. He seems to think if it doesn't fall into his lap then it's not meant to be.

Neither of us wants to change our lifestyle- we like our house and where we live although I worry about the cost of bills since everything has been going up. Our mortgage went up by £500 in January and I have been paying £400 of that. He leaves all the bills and that kind of admin to me and simply says he can't afford to give me any more money- but he also won't countenance restricting some of the things we like to do like going on holiday.

The thought of still doing this job (or one like it) for another 20 years fills me with dread. I don't think I have it in me. We are very happily married right now but this issue is starting to fester with me and I don't want to it to lead to me resenting him. I have tried to discuss it but he just says he's tried and we're fine because my job is secure (true) and I could be a bit less stressed (possibly true).

I am starting to think he just needs to suck it up and get a better paying job so that I can either cut my hours or look for a less stressful one- but AIBU?

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Merryoldgoat · 19/07/2024 15:08

I don’t think it’s quite so black and white.

You need to separate the issues.

As a married couple you decided to join lives and finances. You earn more, the brunt of expenses will be borne by you. That’s just life. Either you have some kind of transactional arrangement or you just accept you’re a family and finances are joined.

I don’t understand the point of getting married and having this resentment given this is who he is and what he does. It would be like a banker marrying a nurse and getting pissed off she hasn’t got the same earning power. Salary isn’t an indication of the worthiness of a job.

You are not happy at work. You need to deal with that separate to your issues with your husband.

You cannot change him. You can’t make people change, so make a decision about what you want/need and if he’s not willing to work with you it’s time to move on.

TemuSpecialBuy · 19/07/2024 15:05

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:57

He can't drive. It's my car.

If we paid for everything 50/50 then we would have to make changes that he won't discuss making, I would be prepared to make them but he won't talk about it.

He doesnt get to decide he wont talk about things.

You need a joint financial plan for the future and you being burnt out doesn't work.

Your income needs to go up or expenditure needs to go down.

I actually suggest you sit down and do "fair play" game (google it)
Because i reckon you are doing more than 50% of the house work / non job work stuff.

StewartGriffin · 19/07/2024 15:05

"I have done as you suggest in the past. Maybe 3-4 years ago pre covid. Worked out a budget and everything. Admittedly not recently. He basically said 'we can't live on that'."

@Tabtabtabby then you leave the fucker and take your life back. What a prince. He should be ashamed of himself.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/07/2024 15:05

I have done as you suggest in the past. Maybe 3-4 years ago pre covid. Worked out a budget and everything. Admittedly not recently. He basically said 'we can't live on that'.

What he's saying is that he knows his income isn't sustainable for his lifestyle. Great. Which does he want to change? Because you are saying you can no longer sustain your levels of employment.

cupcaske123 · 19/07/2024 15:03

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:58

I want to change mine but that's not feasible if he won't change his or we make lifestyle changes that he doesn't want to make.

OP he's going to have to make changes because the current situation is untenable.

Start looking for another job, it can sometimes be a long process, look at ways of cutting costs eg change utility bill providers, change to a cheaper TV package, go on less expensive holidays, cut down on drinking etc etc

You may have to move if you can no longer afford the mortgage. At some point he'll have to voice an opinion. Just start making changes.

Babysharkdoodoodood · 19/07/2024 15:02

He can't make you stay in a house that's too big, if you need to downsize. Point out to him that if you were to LTB then the house could be put on the market anyway.

TargetPractice11 · 19/07/2024 15:02

"He basically said 'we can't live on that"

Champagne taste on a beer budget.

If he wants a certain lifestyle he should lace up his shoes and earn it himself. You weren't put on this earth to bankroll his wishes.

namechange1986 · 19/07/2024 15:01

Do what is best for you. You'll probably spend more of your life working than retired, so don't waste your life being stressed.

He will just have to accept the compromises that'll come from you putting yourself first.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/07/2024 15:01

OK to take a small example, a holiday.

You discuss where to go, he says AI in the Caribbean. You normally say yes. This time you say, I'm downsizing my job soon so I propose camping in Skegness and we save the remainder for the contingency when I have a less well-paying job. He whines. You say, I can't sustain my job, we need to plan for that, what's your suggestion? He still wants the holiday. You say, what's your solution? And so on.

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 15:01

TargetPractice11 · 19/07/2024 15:00

Also if he's insisting on a holiday then he can pay for it.

He can't force you to pay for a holiday.

True, but I want to go on holiday because I need the break!!!

If he had to pay for it we wouldn't go. He never had holidays before we were together.

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Aerialpigeon · 19/07/2024 15:00

My DH has a stressful full time job, I work part time in a similar role (we do have kids and I do more housework/cooking). Many times when things have been tough for him I have offered to go full time so he can reduce hours or for him to change/retrain in something else and we will cut our cloth to allow it. Because I care about his wellbeing.

it’s a shame that your husband can’t see how much this is affecting you. If you did burn out/have a breakdown you may not be able to work at all. I think you both need to read the warning signs and make some changes now. Otherwise I would be considering my future with someone who doesn’t care that you are working yourself into the ground.

TargetPractice11 · 19/07/2024 15:00

Also if he's insisting on a holiday then he can pay for it.

He can't force you to pay for a holiday.

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 15:00

StewartGriffin · 19/07/2024 14:57

I would find a couple of jobs that you would like to do, look at the pay, and then sit down and have a frank talk with him. Say that you simply cannot work the way you are doing now, and want to take a job like the ones you have found, and you need to have a conversation about what that will mean for your finances. So you won't be asking him to take on a more stressful job, but he needs to support you in wanting to take a less stressful job, and your lifestyle will need to be impacted accordingly. So no more fancy holidays etc.

If he's not happy to consider a change in lifestyle to support your health, then he can find another job to make up the shortfall. He doesn't get to make all the decisions.

I have done as you suggest in the past. Maybe 3-4 years ago pre covid. Worked out a budget and everything. Admittedly not recently. He basically said 'we can't live on that'.

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Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:58

cupcaske123 · 19/07/2024 14:56

To answer your question, if he had a better paid job I could take a lower paid one.

You're going around in circles. He doesn't want to change his job so you need to change yours.

I want to change mine but that's not feasible if he won't change his or we make lifestyle changes that he doesn't want to make.

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TargetPractice11 · 19/07/2024 14:58

If you're working all hours and earning the majority of the income, he should be doing the majority at home. You don't have children, it should be manageable for him to take over all chores to support you.

It wouldn't solve the money problem but might make you feel more supported and less resentful.

You do sound like you're burning out.

I think you need to put it to him- where does he want to make changes in terms of your outgoings? Because you can't afford this lifestyle anymore.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/07/2024 14:58

He doesn't get to make all the decisions.

This. And he's got very used to doing this. Boundaries are hard to establish but you need to change the script OP.

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:57

Drizzlethru · 19/07/2024 14:56

You are two adults so everything should be 50:50.

if you pay for the car and all its costs, work out the percentage of use an pay accordingly.

then it is up to you to spend your money on what you want.

He can't drive. It's my car.

If we paid for everything 50/50 then we would have to make changes that he won't discuss making, I would be prepared to make them but he won't talk about it.

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StewartGriffin · 19/07/2024 14:57

I would find a couple of jobs that you would like to do, look at the pay, and then sit down and have a frank talk with him. Say that you simply cannot work the way you are doing now, and want to take a job like the ones you have found, and you need to have a conversation about what that will mean for your finances. So you won't be asking him to take on a more stressful job, but he needs to support you in wanting to take a less stressful job, and your lifestyle will need to be impacted accordingly. So no more fancy holidays etc.

If he's not happy to consider a change in lifestyle to support your health, then he can find another job to make up the shortfall. He doesn't get to make all the decisions.

cupcaske123 · 19/07/2024 14:56

To answer your question, if he had a better paid job I could take a lower paid one.

You're going around in circles. He doesn't want to change his job so you need to change yours.

Drizzlethru · 19/07/2024 14:56

You are two adults so everything should be 50:50.

if you pay for the car and all its costs, work out the percentage of use an pay accordingly.

then it is up to you to spend your money on what you want.

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:55

Cinocino · 19/07/2024 14:55

You end up paying for a while load of expenses due to the ridiculous stresses of your job!
Honestly wanting a partner who is working full time to also pick up and evening and weekend job is insane.
What’s the point? You have no kids, it should be totally doable for him to not have to work a part time job on top of his full time job.
If you want to take another job you’re just going to have to cut some unnecessary expenses.

I don't want him to take an extra job. I would like him to get a different one.

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Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:55

Swisscave · 19/07/2024 14:52

How much is the therapy and physio a month?

£50 a month for my therapist. £36 a month physio.

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Cinocino · 19/07/2024 14:55

You end up paying for a while load of expenses due to the ridiculous stresses of your job!
Honestly wanting a partner who is working full time to also pick up and evening and weekend job is insane.
What’s the point? You have no kids, it should be totally doable for him to not have to work a part time job on top of his full time job.
If you want to take another job you’re just going to have to cut some unnecessary expenses.

FranceIsWhereItsAt · 19/07/2024 14:54

I too think you're already resenting the fact that he doesn't work as hard, or earn as well as you would like him too OP, but unfortunately that's his choice. If he won't talk about it, and won't try to improve his income, then I suggest that YOU look at your set up and decide what you're prepared to forego in order to do a less stressful and time consuming job. As someone else asked, could you downsize to decrease both your mortgage and bills? Decide whether you're having too many, or too expensive holidays, and work out what you might be able to live on. Then start looking for a job that will give you the money and time to live a more relaxed life. He can't complain, because that's exactly what he's doing, so if you drop your salary, and can no longer afford the expensive holidays that he's enjoyed, but not paid for, then tough, he'll either have to pull his finger out and earn some extra money to pay for them himself, or accept that you're entitled to work at the same level as he does, with little or no stress. As a couple you're supposed to be equals, he won't do what it takes to raise his standards to yours, so you should feel free to drop yours to match his, if that's what will make you happy.

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:54

Swisscave · 19/07/2024 14:45

YABVU

You sound like a stressful person to be around and it sounds like you already resent him.

You knew what you got when you married him. However, you are now mid forties and having a mid life crisis and seem to be blaming him.

Why are your stress levels dependent on his job? What is glaringly obvious is this- spending money on health related things you ‘feel’ you need. That will be a couple hundred at least a month you’re wasting and I guarantee the therapy has lead to this level of navel gazing. Therapy should come with a warning!

Accept him for who he is or leave. Your stress levels are your problem, not his.

Thanks for your honest feedback. I do need physio- I have an injury and can't walk properly without it. I know therapy isn't for everyone but I feel it helps me and in the grand scheme of things £50 a month isn't going to make a difference.

To answer your question, if he had a better paid job I could take a lower paid one.

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