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To think DH needs to pull his weight more

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Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:34

Hi everyone, looking for opinions on something I have been stewing over for ages. I think it's long, sorry.

DH and I have been married for 14 years and together for 16. He is 48 and I am 44. No kids, not for any real reason, just a combination of things (I know this is MN but I also value the honest advice so hope it's ok that I'm not actually a mum?).

Anyway, I have been working for 30 years now. My parents were very old-fashioned and insisted on me bringing an income into the home from when I was old enough to get a job. I was only allowed to stay on to do A levels providing I worked the equivalent of full-time and so was working 30 hours a week from the age of 16 onwards. Through uni I always worked, including 80 or 90 hours a week in the holidays.

I now have a very successful but very stressful job. I am expected to answer phone calls from junior staff day and night, always be on my emails, develop any new skill to support the business at the drop of a hat (I have just been put on a £5k professional diploma course without being asked and have had to then negotiate the time to attend the classes and the work). I am well paid for this and I am not trying to make out that I am hard done by. But the reality is that I am knackered and I feel like an old lady although I'm only 44. I am stressed, anxious, get depressed and have a therapist. I do feel I could burnout at any time.

DH works in a relatively low-skilled job, literally 8-5 M-F with an hour for lunch. No emails outside of work, no real responsibility. He earns about a third of what I do. I pay 2/3 of all our household expenses and have outgoings that he doesn't (I have a car, he can't drive; I'm expected to wear professional clothing at work which costs money, he has a uniform; I have to go to work events and conferences which I get reimbursed for but need money for upfront). I also spend a lot of money on health-related things that I feel I need (such as therapy, physio) while he doesn't have those kinds of costs. I am also putting a lot of my income into a pension (£500/month) for us to both live on when we retire as he has the auto-enrolment which he only started when he had to, when he was 40, and pays the minimum. We split most household chores 50/50, I cook a bit more because I enjoy it more. We also don't mind about what each spends our surplus income on.

DH has loads of skills, he is super literate and numerate, very clever, and quite frankly could do much better for work. However, every time I try to get him to consider changing jobs there is always a barrier. Not being able to drive is a big factor as it makes it hard to get to workplaces/be flexible but he adamantly won't learn. He won't consider any role which needs evening or weekend working. He isn't super IT literate and won't develop this although I have offered to fund training for him (in this or anything else). I recently started pushing him again to look for jobs and tbf he applied for a few but he always buggers the recruitment process up. He won't ask for advice from me (who recruits people as part of my job) or his sister who is a HR professional, so if he gets an interview he doesn't prepare and then just doesn't get the job. He seems to think if it doesn't fall into his lap then it's not meant to be.

Neither of us wants to change our lifestyle- we like our house and where we live although I worry about the cost of bills since everything has been going up. Our mortgage went up by £500 in January and I have been paying £400 of that. He leaves all the bills and that kind of admin to me and simply says he can't afford to give me any more money- but he also won't countenance restricting some of the things we like to do like going on holiday.

The thought of still doing this job (or one like it) for another 20 years fills me with dread. I don't think I have it in me. We are very happily married right now but this issue is starting to fester with me and I don't want to it to lead to me resenting him. I have tried to discuss it but he just says he's tried and we're fine because my job is secure (true) and I could be a bit less stressed (possibly true).

I am starting to think he just needs to suck it up and get a better paying job so that I can either cut my hours or look for a less stressful one- but AIBU?

OP posts:
Merryoldgoat · 19/07/2024 20:46

@Tabtabtabby

Why does being heavily relied upon mean
those hours are normal? What do you do?

I’m heavily relied upon and I’ve been called after hours or on the weekend maybe 3 times in 10 years.

OhcantthInkofaname · 19/07/2024 20:24

Having a vehicle is a normal cost of maintain ing a household. He needs to contribute to that and your therapy and physio are medical needs of your household. He isn't pulling his weight financially.

6hourdrive · 19/07/2024 20:14

You are married to someone you can’t talk to?

Why?

I can’t think of one reason which would keep me in a relationship like yours.

AquaFurball · 19/07/2024 20:09

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:57

He can't drive. It's my car.

If we paid for everything 50/50 then we would have to make changes that he won't discuss making, I would be prepared to make them but he won't talk about it.

Household bills, all of them are 50/50. Stop paying 2/3 of everything. If he wants to continue to have the luxury of holidays and lifestyle he is living by only paying 1/3 of household bills then he needs to get a better paying job.

He doesn't need to discuss this if he doesn't want to but he's not caring for children, he has chosen this job and stress free life but he has to also split financial responsibilities 50/50 too.

You will have less to pay then and can find a less demanding job.

Gymnopedie · 19/07/2024 19:41

He basically said 'we can't live on that'.

If we paid for everything 50/50 then we would have to make changes that he won't discuss making, I would be prepared to make them but he won't talk about it.

OP you can't force him to change jobs or do more around the house. But equally he cannot force you to stay in a job that's going to end up with a crash and burn.

He's not your boss. If you want to change jobs do it, and he will have to live with the consequences.

He won't talk about it because he has no intention of losing his lifestyle. As far as he's concerned there's nothing to talk about. So go ahead and do what you want to do. He doesn't get to demand a luxury life on your dollar.

jay55 · 19/07/2024 19:41

You shouldn't be paying two thirds of household bills when you're already covering so much more of the pension and covering holidays etc.

Justkeeprollingalong · 19/07/2024 19:01

You've said you want to go on the holidays too because you need a break so fair enough, you probably need to pay for those. What other lifestyle changes to cut cost is he refusing to make? Surely you have a voice in this, if you don't pay for things they can't happen.

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 18:14

Starlight1979 · 19/07/2024 15:49

Through uni I always worked, including 80 or 90 hours a week in the holidays.

You worked 90 hour weeks through the summer holidays at Uni? So 12-13 hours, 7 days a week???

Yeah pretty well. When Tesco had the hours for me. 6/7am until 8/9pm. I had to, I had to save for the next year as I obviously couldn’t work so much in term time (I only did about 20 hours a week). My family gave me no financial support, my parents’ only concession to me being at uni was not charging me rent in the holidays.

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Hankunamatata · 19/07/2024 18:11

I think your unreasonable to force him to get another job. You cut your cloth to suit your income. So if you don't want to be doing the job your doing then it's down size and have a cheaper lifestyle

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 18:09

Merryoldgoat · 19/07/2024 17:57

I don’t want to be unnecessarily harsh to @Tabtabtabby but there are honestly VERY few jobs I’ve come across where people are genuinely REQUIRED to work to this level with so much stress. OP hasn’t said what she does, but I’d be surprised if she couldn’t make changes.

Some of it is required and TBH I do get taken advantage of too. I have been in the job a long time and am heavily relied upon.

OP posts:
Merryoldgoat · 19/07/2024 17:57

I don’t want to be unnecessarily harsh to @Tabtabtabby but there are honestly VERY few jobs I’ve come across where people are genuinely REQUIRED to work to this level with so much stress. OP hasn’t said what she does, but I’d be surprised if she couldn’t make changes.

rookiemere · 19/07/2024 17:31

Obviously the H issue needs addressing, but I'm wondering if part of the issue is around boundaries both at work and at home.

What would happen if you put an out of hours on your email before say 8 am and after 6pm ? Had your phone on answer phone outside those hours as well ? It's hard to imagine someone so highly paid that they are sustaining an expensive lifestyle practically solo, but so poorly thought of that they enrolled you on a course without even asking if you could take it on. Again what would have happened if you said no I have enough on my plate, you should have asked before signing me on to that?

Unless you resolve your own boundary issues, the reality is you will end up doing long hours in a less well paid job.

pikkumyy77 · 19/07/2024 17:15

What is your feeling about how he would handle illness and the resulting fal in income? Do you think he would care for you through thick or thin?

dbeuowlxb173939 · 19/07/2024 17:09

Tbh it sounds like you'd be better off alone. Get a less stressful job, a nice little house or flat, downgrade on the car, food for one doesn't cost much and you could go on holidays that suit your preferences and budget.
I don't get what he's contributing really, nothing wrong with not being in a high powered job but there's something very wrong about watching your partner run themselves into the ground so you can still have a fancy holiday.

dbeuowlxb173939 · 19/07/2024 17:03

You need to have a serious discussion. It's not fair for you to go on like this. But also if he's happy I don't think it's ok for you to push him to work more. The obvious solution would be for you to cut costs by moving to a cheaper home/area and cutting down on luxuries so that you can reduce your hours or change jobs. If DH is not happy with that then he needs to earn more to make up for your reduced earnings.

lowflyingtitties · 19/07/2024 16:51

Nah. Low paid men aren't to be avoided. Low paid men who happily watch their wives destroy themselves are. Same the other way round too. He's become very accustomed to the lifestyle you provide hasn't he? He's certainly smart though I'll give him that. He's living his dream life on the back of your ill health.
You need to ask yourself, why do you allow him to shut down any discussions?
You need to tell him that you will be looking for a new job and therefore your lifestyle will change. Tell him, dont ask. Then do it. Get the house valued, book the cheaper holidays. He isn't going to look out for you OP, only you can. Or you can do as he says and hurtle towards burnout.

pikkumyy77 · 19/07/2024 16:41

Cinocino · 19/07/2024 15:57

But why should one person have to work over and above, or do MOST of the chores around their full time job because the other spouse chooses to work ridiculous hours?
The reality is he isn’t stopping OP from changing jobs. “He won’t talk about it” what’s there to talk about? If she doesnt enjoy it then a more typical 9-5 is more realistic. Whats the point in killing yourself to the point of resentment and not enjoying life at the end of the day?

Not engaging in the discussion is not OK. It’s basically a sulker’s veto.

Drizzlebizzle · 19/07/2024 16:39

He has nothing to gain from getting a higher paid job - he gets all he needs now. If he was a good man he would care that you're burnt out providing this great lifestyle for him. He'd be willing to get a better job/cut back. But he's not.

RaspberryBeretxx · 19/07/2024 16:31

Well, he can't have it both ways! He wants his "easy" job but doesn't want to have the more minimal lifestyle that buys. I'd crunch some numbers, look at how much you actually need to live on including if you downsized or went for a cheaper house. How much would you need to earn? Then look at jobs in that pay bracket and see if you can find something less stressful/full on. Then you can present it to him either you take on less stressful job and you as a couple live a less luxurious lifestyle or he finds a more highly paid job to bridge the gap.

GinForBreakfast · 19/07/2024 16:26

If you want a change then you will probably need to got divorced. Better now than later as the longer it goes on the more you will have to pay him.

SnappyCroc · 19/07/2024 16:23

You need a different job and he'll have to accept the lifestyle changes that come with this, unless he's prepared to get a new job that pays more.

You don't need his permission to change your job.

Maray1967 · 19/07/2024 16:12

Earn more, not fan more!!

Maray1967 · 19/07/2024 16:12

Tabtabtabby · 19/07/2024 14:57

He can't drive. It's my car.

If we paid for everything 50/50 then we would have to make changes that he won't discuss making, I would be prepared to make them but he won't talk about it.

So what??? It’s not a matter of talking about it, just tell him!!! I can’t work like this much longer, so I’m going to take a lower paid job and live like you do. No more expensive holidays or meals out unless you fan more. Just take control of the situation and tell him what’s happening!!

Nanny0gg · 19/07/2024 16:07

cupcaske123 · 19/07/2024 14:56

To answer your question, if he had a better paid job I could take a lower paid one.

You're going around in circles. He doesn't want to change his job so you need to change yours.

And I hope he's prepared for a different standard of living then

emmetgirl · 19/07/2024 16:07

Your job sounds like an absolute nightmare.
I'd suggest rethink what you want to
do with the rest of your life.
I gave up a high pressure role with lots of demands on my time and mind.
You may earn less money but your life will feel much better and you'll feel more content.
Nobody can keep up what you're doing indefinitely.

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