coach driver had to swear at and threaten school children to make them put seat belts on

He's in the right area to try for the 12/12A bus route between Eastbourne to Brighton along the coast road. The most outstanding views, and a dream job.

He'd be very very very lucky to get this as I believe there is a waiting list to get this gig, it's really that wanted

Not all teens are acting out because of trauma or being spoilt. Most are acting out to show off to their mates as they are pretending to be "top Gs" or "Sigmas". Tribal.
All filmed of course.

It is not just the children of parents who threaten them that play up. The worst cocky entitled little shits are the ones whose mummy has never told them off treats 14 year olds like they are 3.

I hope he does get another job.
I don't agree with what he did but I can totally understand why he did it.
I had a child tell me to fuck off last week.
The kids on the bus were smoking, back chatting, littering and unsafe, bordering on feral. The school should be squirming.
The bus driver shouldn't have had to resort to that and should have had staff dealing with it or backing him up.
He has my sympathies and has said what many staff and children themselves were probably thinking. It doesn't make it okay but anyone working with truculent teenagers will know what triggered it.

Absolutely support the driver. A couple of clips round the ear would have worked as well.

Who the fuck wants to put up with this? Bunch of little cunts.

He was a damn sight more effective than the 7 teachers also present.

His licence on the line.

The point is that it was the driver - landed with a bad bunch and needing to get them back -all this advice on how it should be handled is pointless for him - I’m pretty sure he’ll walk into another job - there’s a shortage of bus drivers.

If you think that losing control and your temper is an effective way to manage behaviour, you obviously don't work with young people. Or if you do, you should work somewhere else!

Well most schools seem to manage it!
On all the trips I have been on, we have never had any child behave like this. If a school knows a child is not going to follow the rules, don't put them on a coach and potentially risk people's lives. It's not rocket science. For any residential trips, students and parents have to sign a behaviour contract, included in that is parents committing to coming to collect their child if they are too unwell to continue the trip or are not following the rules.

Oh dear.
No mention or apology from the parents for the teenagers' inappropriate behaviour. That's ok because it's just teenagers innit.
I know I'd like to curfew parents and their offspring if they cannot socialise correctly. It's the same on the flights.
Life ban and curfew.
I'm sick to the back teeth of sharing my world with ill-mannered humans.

Absolutely, that's the time you get to know them, not when stood at the front of the classroom.

Swearing at kids is a last resort.

Since they were children he was totally unable to leave them behind and they simply had to be made to put their seatbelts on. I believe that he was legally responsible as they were minors.

He used strong language. Not violence.

The teachers were a disgrace. They let things get out of hand. If they couldn't handle the situation they should have told the driver to return to the school or the nearest police station.
Mind you, I suppose the children were in fact being culturally enriched!

Oh gosh, the quick jump of 'you read the Daily Mail' to point score as an insult.
Am stung.

I agree there's loads we need to put in place to build a more supportive society, but we don't start by writing off the kids without putting the other suff in place first.

You think adults don't ever sit with children?

I have my lunch with the kids everyday, best part of it, when you get to chat and build the relationships that help you manage behaviour when out on trips.

No one is saying abandon these kids, but it's sure as shit not the school's (nor any school) job to sort it out. Schools are not the social care of last resort. They're there to teach.

I'm fed up of schools being expected to sort out all of society's ills at the expense of most children's education.

Should have pulled over and had school call the parents to come out and get them. Don't drive? Too bad, start walking.

Soon bring them back into line if they were the ones being inconvenienced.

You are being absolutely ridiculous and it's worrying that you appear unable to see it.

Stop reading the Daily Mail and think about what you're actually saying for a few moments.

This is where it all went wrong, long before the day of the trip. If the school was well run, behaviour managed in school and the trip properly risk assessed, this situation would never arise. Just like if you set proper boundaries at home, you don't actually have to discipline very often.

"Look you loveable little scamps, I know it's everyone's else's fault that this has happened
You poor sausages having to act out like this must be so awful for you! Now who's for a Maccy D and some bowling to make you feel better?!"🤔

It is inappropriate and obviously he can’t drive kids around anymore.

That said, he was telling the truth. Kids smoking, making mess, not wearing seatbelts, misbehaving generally…these days they just get away with it all. Teachers have no real power to do anything and parents generally side with their badly behaved child.

the guy will probably be happier without that job - it must be awful to have to deal with kids who refuse to follow basic rules.

@WillimNot
. Yes deal with the trouble makers in a mature way and speak to the school to make them aware.
and what is this magic mature way that would make a bus full of horrors behave?

What adult these days would want to place their personal and professional life at risk of accusations by sitting at close quarters to pupils such as this, particularly amongst a group of them?! What 5 of them making an allegation?

No, not at. Of course there "should" be parental responsibility, but abandoning these kids as a bad lot/lost cause because their parents can't or won't raise them properly doesn't help anyone, just perpetuates the cycle. And in the absence of "something" to make parents get it right every time, we do our best by the children, who are usually living in very difficult circumstances.