coach driver had to swear at and threaten school children to make them put seat belts on

Why didn't the teachers intervene before things got to that stage?

As these were children, the driver would have been liable for them not wearing seatbelts - a legal offence that could probably cost him his job.

Children smoking on the coach also illegal, a fire hazard and will make the coach smell.

I don't blame the driver for going off on one.

It would be great if all local coach companies refused to take bookings from that school. I’m still shocked that it’s the SCHOOL who have made the complaint.

Interesting how 3/4 of the votes agree with the OP despite the actual replies.

Very well said. I hope they cease all work with the school and spread the word through the coach community.

And they driver could have then been out of hours. That would have left a coach full of brats on the side of the road waiting for another coach and a driver unable to get home to his family. Would you be paying the driver for his wasted time ?

I hope that the local coach companies now bar the school from hiring their coaches until they can behave.

He should have called the police, If they have seatbelts fitted its an offence not to wear them.

I have a mate who's a coach driver and who has driven school coaches.

I am 100% with the driver on this.

Yep, I agree with you OP. I always told my DS that if he behaves like a brat then expect to get treated like one.

Doesn't it say it was 4 hour journey? Imagine that behaviour for all that time ? It wouldn't be safe to drive with kids getting up out of seats, smoking,swearing possibly fighting. I work in a primary school and the behaviour is getting out of control. The local secondary schools near where I live have huge behaviour problems. Especially on the buses travelling to and from school. If that happened near where I live, and the teachers told the coach driver to pull over until they behave, they'd be there all night. Also if you asked a child to get off and he/she says no and swears at you what would you do? How would you get them to listen? There's a serious problem with behaviour in schools (certain uk areas) a lot of it comes down to parenting.

Yeah I agree with you op. They're teenagers not children like other posters are saying they're not getting PTSD from someone actually giving it back. Smoking on a bus wtf I would of gone mental too. These kids think they can take the piss these days and no one can do anything

It's all very well having a go at the driver but imagine if he'd had an accident and some of the kids got hurt or worse? Everyone would be up in arms demanding to know why he didn't make the kids buckle up.

How do you know? Self-evidently, you weren't there.

You've never read official discipline guidance, have you? Time to move on from the tabloids.

Simply not true. The teachers could simply have asked the driver to stop and told the pupils that the coach wasn't moving until they behaved.

He was out of line of course. I am guessing the teachers were dealing but he then decided to take matters into his own hands. Teachers probably didn't want to get into a fight with the driver in front of the students. I am also struck that yet again parents show their utter contempt for the school by getting a video from their child and sending it to the media. Genuine concern about the behaviour would have been to show the video to the school who likely already knew and had already complained.

He was inappropriate, definitely. It's unnaceptable to shout swear and threaten children.

However, I teach secondary and I think many people would be horrified by teen behaviour.

They should have put their belts on sooner.

He may have had another job to have go on to. He may have had to get home on time to pick his own kids up from school.
He may have been close to his maximum hours.

Just saying stop and wait for a few hours is stupid.

His behaviour was completely inappropriate.
Yes, stop the coach/ask for parents to be called to collect/telephone the head of the school etc. But shouting/swearing/physical threats are an absolute no!

I do think though, given the teachers on the bus were doing not a lot to manage behaviour that there is a fundamental problem with behaviour at that school.

I teach in a secondary- we take our kids out, in full year groups, on buses/walking. They behave! Because we insist on good behaviour in school and don't compromise on high standards. Unfortunately, not all schools are like that.

I feel sorry the driver.

He's probably an ordinary working man who woke up on that day and went to work to earn money to keep his family.

Through pure bad luck he ended up with a coach full of ferel cunts and a bunch of teachers who seemed to have walked away from their responsibilities and dumped their job on him. A job he had no chance at.

He's now lost his job.

The school has lodged a formal complaint with the coach company.

I think the coach company should lodge a formal complaint with the school.

70 years ago, if my dad had been threatened like this , his dad would told him it was his own fault for acting like a twat and hit him. Kids behaved better 70 years ago.

I think the fact there were 7 teachers on a day trip indicates they were expecting some disruption.

I think he may get 15 minutes of fame from this

and many people will empathise