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coach driver had to swear at and threaten school children to make them put seat belts on

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combinationpadlock · 19/07/2024 09:07

AIBU to think these kids need a little bit more of this plain speaking in their lives! If I had been that driver, I would simply have refused to drive them home, and just left them there. Poor guy had no choice but to make them behave, or not drive them as they were unsafe.

I imagine it has done them the world of good to hear what people actually think of them. I can't think why the school is complaining, rather than thanking him

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced3z8kx9eqo

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PuttingDownRoots · 19/07/2024 09:32

The coach driver went too far. He shouldn't have reacted like that

But I'd love to see a video showing what led up to the rant!

MrsStottlemeyer · 19/07/2024 09:31

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 19/07/2024 09:19

Yes, remove him from duties involving children 😂I am sure it is his dearest wish! and if he is rewarded like that, I am sure other coach drivers will do the same in the hope of the same reward!
Yep can imagine 'now look Jim you can't do any of the runs that involve schools anymore'... "oh no, how awful, they're such a pleasure too"..

🤣

Crystallizedring · 19/07/2024 09:31

saoirse31 · 19/07/2024 09:22

If he hadn't threatened them I'd fully agree with you. But as a parent I wouldn't have conplained.

Not asking your child why they couldn't follow a simple instruction then?
And to the poster who thought the well behaved kids would be scared, no they wouldn't. Teenagers talk to each other like that all the time.
Yes he went too far but I'd be angrier with my child and also asking the school what the teachers were doing.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 19/07/2024 09:30

I've just watched it again, it's hard to see but there's definitely someone standing that the driver is directing the threats of violence to, I'm wondering if they were squaring up to the driver and he's reacted saying he'll punch them back - not just randomly threatening to punch kids for not wearing seatbelts.

hildabaker · 19/07/2024 09:30

I'm in the middle with this. I think teachers are not really allowed to tell pupils off any more. It is clear that some of the children were out of control and that's why the coach driver stepped in. he handled it badly but they were being a danger to themselves and those around them, including other drivers.

I am glad that I am no longer a teacher.

hookiewookie29 · 19/07/2024 09:28

My brother has been a coach driver for many years and has done hundreds of school runs/trips during that time. Some kids are vile when they're on the coach- my sister in law used to be a chaperone on the coach but gave up because of the behaviour of some of the kids. During Covid he had a lad spitting on the floor of the coach- he stopped the coach and rang the school who contacted the parents to collect him from the coach. He was risking his health as it was by working, he didn't need that.
I know these kids can test anyone's patience,and the driver in the video had obviously had enough of it over time but my brother would never use that kind of threatening behaviour towards them.

MrsStottlemeyer · 19/07/2024 09:28

It does sound like the guy is at the end of his tether. From what is being said it appears the behaviour has been persistent and I wonder what the teachers were doing about it.
I don't blame him for losing his temper, if the kids were moving around he's responsible if they get hurt. He could have dealt with it in a better way but he's trained to drive a coach not discipline gobby teenagers.

hattie43 · 19/07/2024 09:27

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/07/2024 09:10

Seriously, you’d be ok with an adult threatening to fucking punch your child?

Yes I'd be more embarrassed my child needed a threat to behave .

Bananaadramaa · 19/07/2024 09:25

I’m judging you hard right now for thinking it’s acceptable to tell children you’ll punch them in the face

Bananaadramaa · 19/07/2024 09:24

combinationpadlock · 19/07/2024 09:21

The 7 teachers were not allowed to deal with the behaviour effectively - you see what needs to be said and done to make those children comply - teachers are not allowed to do that

OP your comments are borderline weird.

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/07/2024 09:24

*If he was being thuggish, defiant, unsafe, etc, and if it was what it took to make him sit down and put his belt on...

It does seem to have been a- needed and b- effective!*

Because what we need in society are more aggressive, potentially violent men setting standards for our young people.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 19/07/2024 09:23

I don't agree - I think threatening violence was well across the line. However if it had just been swearing 'get your fucking seatbelts on' etc then I think perhaps I'd have a lot more sympathy, and yes, hope it was the shock they needed to realise people in the real world won't put up with their shit.

However - I was stunned to realise there were teachers actually on the bus! Wtf?! How did it get to the point where there were people getting out of seats, smoking, god knows what else and the teachers are doing what? Sitting there like a wet flannel asking the bus driver to 'moderate his language' while the children they're supposed to be in charge of are causing carnage?! I'd certainly not be advertising how completely bloody ineffective all the staff are in the national media if I were the school, but there you go.

ButterCrackers · 19/07/2024 09:23

Why did the teachers not say or do anything. The driver was dealing with smoking, littering, no seatbelts. The teachers need sacking not the driver. The driver did a good job. I hope he gets other work. Who raised kids that are so badly behaved and disrespectful? Loser parents is the answer.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 19/07/2024 09:23

Well obviously he is not well suited to working with teenagers. I doubt they were mentally scarred, and I do wonder what their teachers were doing (possibly sitting with a "No, wait, let's hear the man out" expression).

saoirse31 · 19/07/2024 09:22

If he hadn't threatened them I'd fully agree with you. But as a parent I wouldn't have conplained.

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 19/07/2024 09:22

What were the teachers doing? Probably feverishly searching the new manual released 5 minutes ago for how exactly they are allowed to manage the behaviour of the pupils without being accused of abuse/damaging them mentally/causing trauma?

combinationpadlock · 19/07/2024 09:21

Ivehearditbothways · 19/07/2024 09:19

Even in the video, you see kids starting to put their belts on. The driver also says, “next time one of you gets up…” so they weren’t just refusing to wear seatbelts, they were getting up and messing around. Everyone one of those kids would become a projectile if that his had to stop or got in an accident, and the force of them flying forwards could lull someone in front of them. What the hell were the 7 teachers doing? That they allowed the kids to behave that way.

The 7 teachers were not allowed to deal with the behaviour effectively - you see what needs to be said and done to make those children comply - teachers are not allowed to do that

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WhereIsBebèsChambre · 19/07/2024 09:19

Yes, remove him from duties involving children 😂I am sure it is his dearest wish! and if he is rewarded like that, I am sure other coach drivers will do the same in the hope of the same reward!
Yep can imagine 'now look Jim you can't do any of the runs that involve schools anymore'... "oh no, how awful, they're such a pleasure too"..

Ivehearditbothways · 19/07/2024 09:19

Even in the video, you see kids starting to put their belts on. The driver also says, “next time one of you gets up…” so they weren’t just refusing to wear seatbelts, they were getting up and messing around. Everyone one of those kids would become a projectile if that his had to stop or got in an accident, and the force of them flying forwards could lull someone in front of them. What the hell were the 7 teachers doing? That they allowed the kids to behave that way.

Thetwix · 19/07/2024 09:18

combinationpadlock · 19/07/2024 09:14

Yes, that is what I would have done, just parked the bus and refused to drive, and made parents come and collect their children.

I think they got away very lightly with just being shouted at until they complied

Yes, remove him from duties involving children 😂I am sure it is his dearest wish! and if he is rewarded like that, I am sure other coach drivers will do the same in the hope of the same reward!

Edited

No. Just absolutely no. Parking the bus and /or expecting staff to remove the disruptive pupils to make their own way home I’d support. His behaviour was not just “shouting at” and “getting off lightly”, nor would it be something I’d be ok with children copying or thinking is a good strategy to get someone to do something.

Please tell me you don’t work with children.

Bambi1449 · 19/07/2024 09:18

You think saying "I'll punch you on the fucking mouth" to children is ok? It's not, It's despicable. I'm not surprised one of the girls on the coach said she never wants to go on a school trip again. She must have been terrified. I don't doubt a few of the kids were being disruptive but that's not excuse for yelling and threatening them with violence.

crumblingschools · 19/07/2024 09:18

How come we didn’t hear the other adults on the bus? Both trying to calm the bus driver but also getting the students to put their seatbelts on.
I’m assuming their behaviour had been quite challenging before this rant (not excusing the language he used)

IncompleteSenten · 19/07/2024 09:18

He should not have responded like that.
He should have refused to drive until the staff dealt with the pupils.

Leftphalange100 · 19/07/2024 09:17

He did not handle it well, personally he should have driven to the side and told the teachers (7 of them!) To control the teenagers or he wouldn't be moving.

But so many other issues to unpick here. The teenagers behaviour, why the teachers weren't managing to control it

Bananaadramaa · 19/07/2024 09:16

I wonder about what goes on in your head if you find this acceptable.

Imo he should of refused to drive them and tell the members of staff what’s happening and wait until everything dealt with before starting the journey.

How you can listen to the video and find the way he spoke to children acceptable is beyond me.

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