coach driver had to swear at and threaten school children to make them put seat belts on

Last year of primary I saw my teacher really shouting at one of the boys in my class, had him by the jumper and was shaking him - can't remember now what he'd done, just that it was bad, like deliberately hurting or endangering another child bad. I told my DM what had happened and that he'd deserved it! It wasn't scary, probably because I knew why it was happening. It was very out of character though, he was a fantastic teacher usually.

As for buses and bus drivers, in secondary I think we drove a woman bus driver to a breakdown (not me personally, I was one of the quiet ones). She had no control over the troublemakers, they wouldn't listen to anything she said it was complete chaos on the bus when she was driving. One day she just stopped the bus - didn't pull over or anything, literally stopped in the road, stood up and started screaming at us. Eventually drove the last few minutes to the school and we never saw her again. That was more worrying, and I wondered what happened to her afterwards.

This, I'm actually fed up with the bleeding hearts to only care about certain pupils, the shy, vulnerable pupils are forgotten and ridden rough shod over to make sure the aggressive violent dc aren't ever made to feel at fault or upset.

@Namechange2222238858 well they've certainly enough impact for us to end up where we are, and with the new 'never consequences ever' for behaviour?

Not all the students telling you to fuck off in the classroom, squaring up, answering back and being rude have ACES or SEN (diagnosed or on the pathway) or are LAC. That's just not true. Those who are vulnerable often do have to put up with the swagger, antics and brutality of those wanting to be sigma. If you work with young adults, you'll know this.

This thread hasn’t been posted on for a few days but couldn’t ignore this.

If you think the “bleeding hearts” have this much impact on the world then you’re more ignorant than you first appear. There’s not nearly enough schools which provide alternative provision. What do you propose is done with children who are permanently excluded from school? Sent straight to prison? A caring approach works with children who are acting out due to horrendous treatment by the adults in their life. Sometimes they have undiagnosed SEND. Ultimately their parents are responsible but not all children are lucky enough to be born to parents who give a fuck. Short of ensuring people have a license to reproduce, unfortunately there’s little that can be done about this.

anyway, you’ve got government cuts and their general fecklessness towards the lower class to thank for their handling of the most vulnerable people in our society.

I remember a teacher losing his temper at school and really shouting at us and the throwing a book across the class and dragging a boy out of the class (he was playing up )

yes we were frightened in the moment but we absolutely loved the drama

we didn’t mess around so much from then on

I don’t think it’s bad that children see adults are human and we all have a breaking point

And it was just the drivers behaviour that terrified her? So ok with the abusive thuggery of the pupils? Am sure it'll be fine as can't imagine any companies jumping to accept jobs from the school so no more trips anyway!

What do you mean? That this behaviour never happens and is made up by the tabloids?

No because I wouldn't raise kids like that so they wouldnt be shouted at in the first place.
These kids have 0 respect for authority and need parents with backbones and balls. Gentle parenting bull.

Nobody has to be a cunt.

For how long should he have refused to drive? He wanted to get home. He was just trying to do his job.

When would the DC have calmed down, put their seat belts on and stopped smoking?

He could have refused to drive for hours and then what? The teachers were not going to sort it out.

When we had school trips we were fully aware that the driver was doing his job by driving us. We were respectful and we thanked him when he dropped us off both sides. But our teachers took no nonsense. You sat down for the entire trip and behaved so the driver could concentrate.

He shouldn't be shouting and threatening them. He should have just refused to drive.

Sounds like a bunch of shits. Smoking?? Making a mess? Those are the types of children that swearing doesn't phase them, because they have an even more vulgar vocabulary. This man sounds like he is sick and tired of them doing this yet again.

Nobody has to swear!

It’s not clear though - you can agree the driver’s behaviour was OTT and also agree that some children need better discipline - so the vote doesn’t make sense.

Teacher here. He was out of order , but he should not have had to discipline them. He was there to drive. What were the teachers doing ? At times I would love to be able to reprimand some of the little dahlings in a more severe manner

It seems like the bus driver is a convenient scapegoat for the teachers’ abject failure to control or address the pupils’ behaviour. He’s there to drive the bus, he shouldn’t have to be dealing with feral yobs too.

Terrified??? Maybe she was one of the feral teens smoking on the bus and dropping litter. This behaviour is a consequence of that. It won't have come out of nothing.

The students sound feral. They should know how to behave on a bun us. And what on earth were all the teachers doing? Why did they allow the kids to smoke on the bus and make a mess? Why didn't they intervene? Insanity.

Ark Alexandra Academy latest offsted report

Behaviour and attitudes:
Requires Improvement

7 teachers on that bus, one driver doing his own job and theirs too.

Teachers silent even when the driver was having a go at the kids.

He kept the kids safe and delivered them as per his job description .

7 teachers.

7 ffs.

Hope the school never gets another private hire again.

Why would anyone want the work?

Not as far as I am aware. Their statement just said the driver no longer worked for them

I have seen them in the past doing the run for the private school up the road, but I avoid going out during the school run so haven't seen them lately.

The school and the parents. It was on our local news last night. One parent complaining about the driver. Very calm and polite but said it was disgusting and that a lot of the kids were SEN

I still don't blame the driver, our local kids in a different town are just as feral.

Coach company have confirmed the driver no longer works for them

Quite, unless it has auto-pilot it must have been stationary 😃