Neighbour smoking on balcony

OFGS.

If someone tells you not to do something everyone knows it makes them do it more (unconciously)

Children/sweets
XH/me drinking a glass of wine
Teens/drugs,alcohol,smoking

You name it.

Where does it stop though? If he stops smoking on his balcony and just does it inside will you want him to close his windows next because you can still smell the smoke? That's the problem with living in a flat. You're on top of other people who have different lives to you. It's not ideal. Unfortunately you can't reasonably tell other residents not to smoke on their own balcony. In communal areas it won't be allowed but provided there are no ground rules about smoking inside the actual flats he is entitled to smoke on his own balcony. You won't know from one new tenant to the next if another smoker will move in so perhaps explore other housing options with a bit more space between residents so you're not so close to eachother.

If he's a tenant then his lease almost certainly forbids smoking in the flat - which will include the balcony

It was not that people were saying was unpleasant. It was your contrarian comment that if someone asked you to be more considerate if you were a smoker that you would take up chain smoking to spite them.

That is hardly very nice.

Which conversation - the one in which they are asked to notify the person they are going to annoy....? How weird. Not in my world.

I am a lovely neighbour.
I have lived in capital cities all over the world.
I now live in a flat by the sea.
I do not smoke or take drugs.
I can have an opinion on whether this man can have a cigarette on his balcony. Yes he bloody can.

You could ask him nicely but I doubt he will stop. He has a balcony so he won't be going downstairs every time he sits and relaxes there.

Try approaching him in a friendly, chatty way rather than as if you have a 'complaint'. Make clear that you'd just like to try to find a solution that works OK for both of you.
He might respond well.
If he doesn't, at least you've tried, and hopefully kept neighbourly relations relatively positive. Or at least kept the moral high ground!

I presume that an exchange of numbers would happen when/if they had this conversation.

I beg your pardon?

@BlackStrayCat People with your attitude and the others going on about "hysteria" are the reason why living in build up areas is a nightmare.

I also wonder who these people are, who have their neighbours' numbers....
?

I do sympathise with this.... and have had a "bit" of an issue myself. Trust me, if people do it, and know it has an effect, and carry on anyway they will not change what they do.
I, up to a point, have fought fire with passive-aggressive fire, and utilise incense sticks (several at a time), air fresher and fabric sprays over the (high) fence - which is more aggressive than passive, I know.
But I do also use a cordless fan close the the boundary, and blow their stench back at them.

i think you’re on a hiding to nothing - yes I’m sure if he had a larger space he wouldn’t mind moving but you’re asking him to go down and outside the building every time he wants a cigarette, which realistically he’s not going to want to do.

you can only control your behaviour so shut blinds and windows, fan on. I imagine the balconies aren’t very big so I don’t think there’s a solution of him moving to one side or the other is going to help substantially.

and I’m sure the police in London will very much care that someone’s having a spliff every now and then 😂

Yes. State the obvious... start a fire, kill someone, have music blaring at 3am, grow drugs etc.

If you pay 1,500 pounds for a small London pad you can have a fag on the balcony. You probably rented it for that exact reason.

Poor you. I would hate this. You’ll just have to ask him really nicely and hope he’s not a selfish twat (as so many smokers are).

He isn't doing anything unreasonable. He's smoking on his own premises and there isn't anything you can do.

I feel your pain i hate the smell of cigarettes

Maybe everytime he lights up. Light an incense stick on your balcony so you get a nice smell and sends a passive aggressive statement

I am a very nice person thank you.

Just sick of living in city flats with people with screaming DCs next door thinking they rule the roost.

I do not smoke FWIW.

Are you a nice person? You sound very confrontational to me.

@x2boys lots of leases forbid smoking in the property, that's been the case for everywhere I've rented. Also illegal activities, which possessing weed is.

YWBU to complain to him, he's on his own balcony.

YWNBU to politely ask him if he would consider going elsewhere to smoke at least sometimes. But he probably won't tbh.

It sucks, I hate the smell of smoke, but there's not much you can do. If he's alone and you have DC your noise probably bugs him.

But, you can do what you wish in your expensive London flat.

I mean you really can't. There's a really long list of things you can't do.

Cannabis is illegal, so they can be done for that.

If your flat is local authority, check with them about smoking on the balcony. I think there are rules re quality of air.

If it's private, there will be rules & regs regarding smoking on the premises, which includes the balcony.

If a neighbour asked you nicely though? Or are you just not a very nice person?

TBH, this is what most people do. A lot of folks are unaware of which direction the smell travels. Most people do not care if you smoke (weed or cigs) they just don't want it coming in their house.

I like to think most people are considerate enough to just change a time/ location if asked nicely.

Weed smells disgusting. Smoke smells disgusting.
Noise pollution is absolutely horrendous.

But, you can do what you wish in your expensive London flat.

If I were told off by my neighbour I would turn into a chain smoker.

I don't think it is hysteria, so much as that a lot of weed smokers are unaware of how smelly their smoking is and how unpleasant this can be for others.

We all know that clouds of tobacco smoke are antisocial, not sure why people think that the same complaint should not also apply to weed.