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Neighbour smoking on balcony

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PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 08:40

We have a relatively new neighbour in the flat immediately next to ours. Now that the weather is improving he seems to spend a lot of time on his balcony smoking cigarettes and weed. Yesterday it was about every 2-3 hours. The smell is horrendous and the prevailing wind flows it straight in through our windows. It’s as if someone is smoking inside our flat. I work from home so notice every time he smokes. Last night he lit up again at 11pm so I had to shut our bedroom windows despite it being very hot. I have young children and their bedrooms also end up stinking of smoke.

I feel I need to say something because it is vile and bad for our health. But I also appreciate that it’s his balcony and he can technically do what he wants on it. What should I say?

AIBU to complain to him?

OP posts:
Janieforever · 19/07/2024 14:41

AutumnLeaves1990 · 19/07/2024 14:11

If it's weed he's smoking then it will.

I’ve never seen a rental contract that states you can’t smoke weed in outside spaces. However obvs it is illegal, so it’s not about the contract as such. More he’s undertaking illegal activity. Will the landlord care, will the police. Doubtful on either to be honest. And how does she prove it.

OhHelloMiss · 19/07/2024 14:40

What can environmental health do?

Not a lot I'd guess

ManchesterLu · 19/07/2024 14:37

It's really shit for you, but he's entitled to smoke on his own balcony and there isn't much you can do about it. I do feel for you, though. It might be worth knocking and letting him know how it's affecting you.. but in a flat, unless he's going to go all the way down and out, it's the only place he can smoke.

Caroparo52 · 19/07/2024 14:35

Every time I go to a public event I'm horrified by the number of people smoking around me. It stinks and makes me gag. Seems to be on the increase. What is wrong with people?

Imisscoffee2021 · 19/07/2024 14:23

I had the same problem in London, neigh our had an illegal garden on the flat roof next door outside the bedroom window while it was 32 degrees and I had a newborn. Didn't day anything as we weren't staying as moving to bigger place but I pointed a fan at the window when he sparked up to blow it out a bit, as counter productive and a waste of electricity it is! It was on anyway due to the heat but would rather have had it pointed in the room.

Bignanna · 19/07/2024 14:18

He’s not considerate, otherwise he wouldn’t smoke there- he must be aware of the effects of it

AutumnLeaves1990 · 19/07/2024 14:11

Janieforever · 19/07/2024 10:55

Highly unlikely his lease forbids smoking on the balcony.

If it's weed he's smoking then it will.

Irishmama100 · 19/07/2024 14:08

i would def speak to him. If he is not responsive then I would contact environmental health as he is creating a nuisance to you in your home. We do not have the right to do whatever we want in our owned/rented space if it causes a consistent nuisance to others.

OhHelloMiss · 19/07/2024 14:03

Nothing you can do OP

It's what happens when you live almost on top of people

NorthernSpirit · 19/07/2024 13:03

I feel your pain.

From personal experience there is nothing you can do.

I own a first floor flat and the elderly couple below me are both chain smokers.

They spend all day either smoking indoors (and the smoke permeates through the pipe work gaps into to my flat).

Or they stand in their section of the garden and the smoke comes up and through my lounge window.

Their own flat - the walls are yellow through the stained nicotine.

I’ve tried talking to them (they just laugh it off).

I’ve tried it the council (who tell me that unless they are smoking in communal areas there is nothing they can do).

I’ve tried speaking to the management company who tell me that everyone who has owned my flat over the last 20 years has had the sane complaint and there is nothing they can do. Last time I spoke to them they said they had been chain smoking in their flat for 20 years and there had been numerous complaints over the years. They weren’t going to change so my best bet was they died from the smoking!!!!!

It’s so utterly selfish. Smoking f’ing stinks. It’s such a selfish habit. My own dad died from lung cancer caused from smoking - it’s such a disgusting habit that affects everyone.

Good luck 🤞

OneTC · 19/07/2024 13:01

I used to smoke on my balcony and then the person next door asked me not to so I don't.

It's probably that simple

divinededacende · 19/07/2024 13:01

There's nothing much you can do OP.

He's entitled to smoke. I don't think whether he's a tenant or an owner matters, I don't really see that as being your business as other posters have suggested. Even if he does have a no smoking term in his contract, you don't know if it includes the balcony and, even if it does, they'll likely do an inspection and if he's being careful not to let smoke get in the flat, they'll likely find nothing to complain about. You just risk creating a hostile relationship.

You COULD report him for the weed, he's technically committing a crime but, in reality, the police aren't going to care unless he's secretly running a weed farm. Even if they do show up, there's little chance of any consequences and, as a smoker, he'll know that. Even if a knock from the police does make him stop smoking weed, he'll probably just smoke more cigarettes to compensate.

Your only real option is to casually mention it to him and ask if there's anything he can do to avoid/minimise the impact on you. If he says no, he says no. Hopefully, even if he says no, he'll be decent enough not to take offence.

Are your balconies adjoining? The other solution I can think of (if it's a big enough problem for you) is to put an extractor/fan on your balcony that he can reach. You could explain the situation and ask if he wouldn't mind switching that on while he's smoking. You'd probably want to explore the options first before actually doing that in case he say's no and you've wasted money. I don't know how much that would help with the problem? Would a fan/extractor work? You never know, he might even offer to contribute - I would as an ex-smoker who always tried to be considerate but that's just me.

It's a shit that the burden of finding a solution is on you but there isn't much you can do otherwise. It's the downside of communal living.

PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 13:00

passiveaggressivenonsense · 19/07/2024 10:48

Can you put a fan on the balcony near where the smoke blows in to redirect it ?

i really don’t think this would make the slightest bit of difference.

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PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 12:58

pilo7 · 19/07/2024 11:42

If he's otherwise quiet and considerate, I wouldn't make a fuss. Just not worth it.

Spoken as someone who’s children aren’t regularly inhaling poisonous chemicals.

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PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 12:58

BlackStrayCat · 19/07/2024 09:22

Of course you cannot do anything and I am sure you piss him off too.

Living in London is like that. "Ive got kids" so, who gives a shit?
FGS ONE DAY of hot weather.😂

I would assume he would give a shit, since he also has a child (who doesn’t live with him) and I’m sure he wouldn’t allow him to breath the smoke in.

I’m not sure sure what your “one day of hot weather” comment is about. We have our windows open all day every day so this is a daily problem.

OP posts:
mewkins · 19/07/2024 12:27

passiveaggressivenonsense · 19/07/2024 10:48

Can you put a fan on the balcony near where the smoke blows in to redirect it ?

Huge industrial fan so that he'd struggle to even light up😆

Jc2001 · 19/07/2024 11:46

AutumnLeaves1990 · 19/07/2024 08:46

Only thing you can do is make him aware. If he's a decent enough person,he'll be a bit more considerate in the future.

Can't stand the smell of smoke but if he's a smoker how is he supposed to smoke more considerately if he lives in a flat? Your only outdoor space is the balcony.

It's just one of the things you have to deal with if you live in a block of flats unfortunately along with some noise and parking.

pilo7 · 19/07/2024 11:42

If he's otherwise quiet and considerate, I wouldn't make a fuss. Just not worth it.

SummerAndSunPlease · 19/07/2024 11:41

@Cattery I only suggested it as a last resort, if other avenues don't work.
There will be bad feeling anyway if he refuses to stop.

@BlackStrayCat You have serious issues, I'm stopping replying to you now.

Ginlfixit · 19/07/2024 11:38

FigTreeInEurope · 19/07/2024 11:12

Could you put a trellis up at the end of your balcony as a barrier?

Of course there's little chance of smoke passing through trellis.

mrsm43s · 19/07/2024 11:21

If you don't want smells from outdoors to come into your flat through the open window, then you need to shut your window. It's that simple.

You need to decide which is preferable to you - shut windows, or the smell coming in via open windows.

FigTreeInEurope · 19/07/2024 11:12

Could you put a trellis up at the end of your balcony as a barrier?

Cocoda · 19/07/2024 11:09

The point is, the cannabis fumes are wafting into her house and in particular into her children's bedrooms. They have human rights too! i.e not to be forced to breathe in fumes from drugs! 😡

Copenhagener · 19/07/2024 11:07

It’s incredibly irritating, but something I’ve been unable to solve.

My downstairs neighbour does the same, it floats up to our apartment and through the windows. She actually seems to find it funny and giggles when I close the windows/my balcony door when the smoke starts up. I’m pregnant right now and the smell makes me literally retch and sometimes even vomit.

Some people are just twats and find it funny to annoy their neighbours.

Janieforever · 19/07/2024 11:05

readingmakesmehappy · 19/07/2024 10:59

@x2boys if he's a private tenant then he's almost certainly not allowed to. In my renting days there was always an explicit clause forbidding it, and every landlord I've ever known ensures it goes in the contract. It stinks out the house and the landlord has to replace all the carpets and curtains to get rid of the smell.

On the balcony? You sure? Normally it’s in the property itself not the outside space.

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