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Neighbour smoking on balcony

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PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 08:40

We have a relatively new neighbour in the flat immediately next to ours. Now that the weather is improving he seems to spend a lot of time on his balcony smoking cigarettes and weed. Yesterday it was about every 2-3 hours. The smell is horrendous and the prevailing wind flows it straight in through our windows. It’s as if someone is smoking inside our flat. I work from home so notice every time he smokes. Last night he lit up again at 11pm so I had to shut our bedroom windows despite it being very hot. I have young children and their bedrooms also end up stinking of smoke.

I feel I need to say something because it is vile and bad for our health. But I also appreciate that it’s his balcony and he can technically do what he wants on it. What should I say?

AIBU to complain to him?

OP posts:
andtheendwasgone · 19/07/2024 22:44

Could you put up a wind breaker on the side he's smoking from that should help. You could descorate it with your children's hand prints or get a pretty one as they do lovely ones these days.

Also mention to him if he would consider a fan? Snd or a wind breaker on his side too?

mrsm43s · 19/07/2024 22:43

PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 22:32

It’s entirely unreasonable to have to shut my windows every 2-3 hours when my neighbour lights up. I work from home and have better things to do with my time than to run around opening and closing windows. Our flat is very warm, even in winter. Our windows are open 90% of the year.

If you're not prepared to shut your windows, then you're going to have to accept that you're going to smell outdoor smells (including smoke). It's that simple.

You not wishing to close your windows doesn't remove the right of others to live a normal life, which may well include choosing to smoke in their own homes or gardens.

Your wants are not more important than their wants. Stop being so entitled, and shut your windows if you don't want smells from outside in your flat.

If your flat is that hot, I'd suggest investing in air con.

Allfur · 19/07/2024 22:40

Smokers can be pretty self absorbed unfortunately, it's all about their fix, screw everyone else

Lavenderfields21 · 19/07/2024 22:40

I have the same problem. When it happens I cough loudly and go around shutting the windows noisily. Passive aggressive, but it has improved things.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 19/07/2024 22:38

Sorry, haven't read whole thread but it sounds horrible for you so 2 things you could try.
Hang wet towels in your windows.
Ask him to get a fan to blow the smoke away, I'd even maybe buy one for him!
Actually another one, put a high glass/perspex screen between the balconies.
Good luck!

Allfur · 19/07/2024 22:34

Raquelos · 19/07/2024 21:36

You live in London (as do I), you must have noticed the colour of a tissue when you blow your nose. Although you may dislike the smell and although it can be hard, try to be realistic about this. Cigarette smoke from outside is not going to have more of a health impact than the car fumes and pollution your kids are also exposed to daily. It's a shit fact, but it might help you keep a sense of proportion if your neighbour isn't interested in your concerns.

City folk can't complain about smokers now? Ok

PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 22:32

mrsm43s · 19/07/2024 21:24

Um no? Maybe you lack comprehension skills? The opening post makes it clear that it's only a problem when the windows are open. The fact she doesn't wish to close her windows is neither here nor there, it's the solution and entirely within her control. I can only assume you don't understand how to interpret text. OP makes it clear that at 11pm she had to close her windows to deal with the problem, hence indicating the problem is when the windows are open. A later post then complained that she wanted her windows open as it was hot. She is opening her windows, letting neighbours normal smells in. If she shuts the windows, the smells cease to be a problem (otherwise why shut them at 11pm). So if the smells bother her she needs to shut the windows (and find a different way of cooling her flat if needs be)

It’s entirely unreasonable to have to shut my windows every 2-3 hours when my neighbour lights up. I work from home and have better things to do with my time than to run around opening and closing windows. Our flat is very warm, even in winter. Our windows are open 90% of the year.

OP posts:
PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 22:30

Raquelos · 19/07/2024 21:36

You live in London (as do I), you must have noticed the colour of a tissue when you blow your nose. Although you may dislike the smell and although it can be hard, try to be realistic about this. Cigarette smoke from outside is not going to have more of a health impact than the car fumes and pollution your kids are also exposed to daily. It's a shit fact, but it might help you keep a sense of proportion if your neighbour isn't interested in your concerns.

I don’t know why you’re lumping weed in with general pollution. Cannabis is an illegal drug for a reason. You’re welcome to be relaxed about your own children smoking weed, but I’m not ok with it for mine.

And we don’t blow black snot out of our noses. That’s just not a thing anymore, unless you travel daily on the tube, thanks to ULEZ. Air quality is significantly better.

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Rightsraptor · 19/07/2024 22:09

Are you allowed smoke on your balcony? I know that might sound a bit daft, but I lived in a block where it wasn't permitted. We found out why one evening when a fire started in a plant pot - someone had left their cigarette butt smouldering and it caught the wood of the plants.

I do sympathise though. A friend used to suffer with her upstairs neighbour smoking dope - disgusting smell. She'd get me to call out ' what's that vile smell?' in a very loud voice. Sometimes it worked.

Raquelos · 19/07/2024 21:36

PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 12:58

Spoken as someone who’s children aren’t regularly inhaling poisonous chemicals.

You live in London (as do I), you must have noticed the colour of a tissue when you blow your nose. Although you may dislike the smell and although it can be hard, try to be realistic about this. Cigarette smoke from outside is not going to have more of a health impact than the car fumes and pollution your kids are also exposed to daily. It's a shit fact, but it might help you keep a sense of proportion if your neighbour isn't interested in your concerns.

mrsm43s · 19/07/2024 21:24

Bluebirdover · 19/07/2024 19:50

@mrsm43s inane because it had already been answered. But you'd not read the OP or lack comprehension skills.

Um no? Maybe you lack comprehension skills? The opening post makes it clear that it's only a problem when the windows are open. The fact she doesn't wish to close her windows is neither here nor there, it's the solution and entirely within her control. I can only assume you don't understand how to interpret text. OP makes it clear that at 11pm she had to close her windows to deal with the problem, hence indicating the problem is when the windows are open. A later post then complained that she wanted her windows open as it was hot. She is opening her windows, letting neighbours normal smells in. If she shuts the windows, the smells cease to be a problem (otherwise why shut them at 11pm). So if the smells bother her she needs to shut the windows (and find a different way of cooling her flat if needs be)

Snugglemonkey · 19/07/2024 21:22

Manhere2024 · 19/07/2024 09:07

Is he a council tenant, private tenant, or a leaseholder or a freeholder?

There’s sure to be someone you can escalate this to. You just need to know his status first.

His status? Grown adult smoking on his own balcony. Perfectly legally.

PencilsInSpace · 19/07/2024 21:19

GeraniumJenny · 19/07/2024 19:45

When did people become so entitled that they inflict their nasty evil smelling pollutants on other folk?

Sometime between 1 and 2 million years ago when we started using fire for warmth, light and cooking. We weren't even homo sapiens at that point.

PoopedAndScooped · 19/07/2024 21:12

OP - People are giving suggestions and opinions and you clearly arent happy with the responses so maybe just make your own decisions on what you are going to do

Options are -

  1. Put up with it

  2. Talk to him

  3. Close the window

Ellie1015 · 19/07/2024 21:11

It is annoying but if he is a heavy smoker and does not want to smoke indoors he is unlikely to vacate his property every time he wants to smoke. I can't think of many people who would be that accomodating.

If you are asking him to do something else, sit to other end of balcony or try and blow it other way then he might but i doubt that will help much if breeze is towards you.

WhoisJusticeBeaver · 19/07/2024 21:10

A decent air purifier would be more effective than you think. Even a little rubbish air purifier will take the smell down a bit.

PoopedAndScooped · 19/07/2024 21:08

Querty123456 · 19/07/2024 09:02

Why don’t you ask him to text you when he’s heading outside for a smoke. Then close the windows, wait 10 mins and all should be clear.

😂

mrsm43s · 19/07/2024 21:06

GeraniumJenny · 19/07/2024 20:10

@mrsm43s - so why doesn’t he smoke in his own home? Because it’s smelly. But he doesn’t object to smelling out other peoples homes does he?

Probably because his tenancy says he can't smoke inside, so he's quote reasonably complying with that rather than risking getting kicked out.

It doesn't matter anyway. If he wishes to smoke on his balcony, he's perfectly entitled to, and its a perfectly reasonable/normal thing to do. If OP doesn't wish to smell that smoke, she can shut her windows.

Irridescantshimmmer · 19/07/2024 20:58

I was curious about the disgusting stench of weed where I live, earlier in the year (2024) I asked 2 police officers during a walk in and I was told there is nothing they can do about it. Their resources are already tied up.

I don't have asthma, thank goodness, I am aware that adults and children who have serious breathing issues like asthma etc etc, local authorities and police can do nothing to stop smokers from polluting the air with weed and cigarette smoke..
Some selfish pricks continue to smoke near windows just to wind people up.

So the $hit hits the fan in the case of people who don't smoke or want the acrid smell of weed in their homes, especially those with breathing issues.

They are like a fart in a lift.

PigletJohn · 19/07/2024 20:21

My neighbours puff weed every morning before going to work, and every evening when they get home, outside the back door.

If I can be bothered I shut my windows for half an hour.

I could probably set an alarm clock.

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 19/07/2024 20:15

Ginmonkeyagain · 19/07/2024 09:07

@PorridgeWobbler not to be that person but this is when you should keep your windows shut. Opening them at 32 degrees will just make your flat warmer.

Open the windows wide early (like 6am) and late (after dark) otherwise keep them shut with the window coverings closed.

You'll thank me later tonight.

Was just about to say this!

Open in cooler hours, then closed during the hotter times with blinds/curtains drawn to keep that cooler air inside cool.

Justcallmebebes · 19/07/2024 20:12

GeraniumJenny · 19/07/2024 19:45

When did people become so entitled that they inflict their nasty evil smelling pollutants on other folk?

When did people become so entitled they feel they have the right to stop people indulging in their nasty, evil smelling habits? If you choose to live in close quarters with other people you have to accept they may have habits you don't like. Smoking is not illegal

GeraniumJenny · 19/07/2024 20:10

@mrsm43s - so why doesn’t he smoke in his own home? Because it’s smelly. But he doesn’t object to smelling out other peoples homes does he?

Justcallmebebes · 19/07/2024 20:09

LlynTegid · 19/07/2024 15:10

Ask your neighbour if he is happy for young black men to be stabbed, or for a young girl to be shot dead as happened in Liverpool. As this is what he is happy about by partaking in illegal drugs.

If he drives, then report him to the DVLA or the police.

Confused
Justcallmebebes · 19/07/2024 20:06

Manhere2024 · 19/07/2024 09:07

Is he a council tenant, private tenant, or a leaseholder or a freeholder?

There’s sure to be someone you can escalate this to. You just need to know his status first.

No there's not. Unless there's a clause in his tenancy saying he can't smoke on his own balcony, which I very much doubt, there's bugger all the council/HA/landlord can or will do anything about it. Ridiculous advice

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