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Neighbour smoking on balcony

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PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 08:40

We have a relatively new neighbour in the flat immediately next to ours. Now that the weather is improving he seems to spend a lot of time on his balcony smoking cigarettes and weed. Yesterday it was about every 2-3 hours. The smell is horrendous and the prevailing wind flows it straight in through our windows. It’s as if someone is smoking inside our flat. I work from home so notice every time he smokes. Last night he lit up again at 11pm so I had to shut our bedroom windows despite it being very hot. I have young children and their bedrooms also end up stinking of smoke.

I feel I need to say something because it is vile and bad for our health. But I also appreciate that it’s his balcony and he can technically do what he wants on it. What should I say?

AIBU to complain to him?

OP posts:
ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 20/07/2024 07:53

I think you all must know dickhead weed users because the weed users I know would not want children to breathe the smoke in.

Justcallmebebes · 20/07/2024 07:31

Wotcher · 19/07/2024 23:37

It’s truly awful, and so selfish. I suffered this in a flat as well, but luckily it wasn’t my permanent home. In the summer, like you, I needed the windows open. The guy below would come out every two hours for a fag. Literally every two hours through the night like clockwork. 11pm….1am…..3am…..5am….. it was DISGUSTING and just gave me the rage. It would come straight in my bedroom window and fill the room with fetid smoke while I was trying to sleep.

I honestly could have happily thrown the ignorant prick off that balcony.

One cigarette every couple of hours would fill your room with smoke. Really?

KatiesMumWoof · 20/07/2024 07:20

@PorridgeWobbler you could try asking him not to, but it would be a massive inconvenience to him, so I'd expect him to say 'sorry, but there's no where else' (at best).

I assume if is leasehold? is there anything in the contract forbidding it? If he rents can you contact the landlord & see if it's permitted in his lease. Environmental health?

Imisscoffee2021 · 20/07/2024 07:14

@PorridgeWobbler I can't believe how many people equate your wish for cooler air in your home during a heatwave to someone's wish to smoke a ciggy! All this "its his balcony just dont open the window etc" but it's not is it because the smoke extends the limitations of his balcony and therefore is a nuisance.

Gingerdancedbackwards · 20/07/2024 07:13

@PorridgeWobbler apologies, I did mis-read the tube bit.
Living in london, I see very little difference in air quality despity what the 'figues' say
But no, nothing to do with topic, i was responding to something raised.

My previous response about the use oofcweed (indoors or outdoors)!stands. The hysteria here when it is mentioned verges on hysterical. Yet same people are prepared to regularly break the law to suit themselves

PorridgeWobbler · 20/07/2024 07:06

Gingerdancedbackwards · 20/07/2024 06:54

Air quality is significantly better? No it is not. I live near a major road

No; the black nasal residue is alive and well on the tube. You do realise that the particulates from cars above ground barely affect the air and shit on the tube?all the shit there is from engines, bits os train, bits of humans (skin, hair, droplets of stuff expelled byscratching, shedding, and coughing and sneezing)

I think you need to re-read my post. I said it was still apparent if you travel on the tube.

But air quality in central London IS better as a result of ULEZ. You can disagree all you like, but the evidence says otherwise.

Anyway, none of this has anything to do with breathing in cigarette and cannabis smoke in my flat.

OP posts:
Gingerdancedbackwards · 20/07/2024 06:54

PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 22:30

I don’t know why you’re lumping weed in with general pollution. Cannabis is an illegal drug for a reason. You’re welcome to be relaxed about your own children smoking weed, but I’m not ok with it for mine.

And we don’t blow black snot out of our noses. That’s just not a thing anymore, unless you travel daily on the tube, thanks to ULEZ. Air quality is significantly better.

Air quality is significantly better? No it is not. I live near a major road

No; the black nasal residue is alive and well on the tube. You do realise that the particulates from cars above ground barely affect the air and shit on the tube?all the shit there is from engines, bits os train, bits of humans (skin, hair, droplets of stuff expelled byscratching, shedding, and coughing and sneezing)

Marblessolveeverything · 20/07/2024 00:49

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 19/07/2024 23:47

How do I expect what to go? My suggestion was to talk to the neighbours about the weed smoke coming into the house where there's children. That's what I did, and because my neighbours aren't complete dickheads, the problem got a lot better.

Obviously the police won't do anything. But the replies saying he can do what he wants on his balcony, like the OP is being precious for complaining are not correct. Whether it not the police will enforce the rule, it isn't the case that he "can" (as in, is "allowed to") smoke weed on his balcony.

He literally can smoke weed on his balcony. By suggesting the OP go and ask what is a really risky and to be honest risky, it could end in a dispute impacting a sale, is naive.

The reality is people can't dictate what others do in their property no matter what opinions are.

Raquelos · 20/07/2024 00:23

Allfur · 19/07/2024 22:34

City folk can't complain about smokers now? Ok

We can complain, we just shouldn't be surprised when we aren't taken that seriously.
People are allowed to smoke outside, sometimes we can smell the smoke. The fact that we don't like the smell doesn't mean we should feel entitled to stop those people smoking.
Life's annoying enough without fixating on things you can't change imo.

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 19/07/2024 23:47

Marblessolveeverything · 19/07/2024 23:36

Exactly how on earth do you expect that to go? Police generally look the other way if personal use.

How do I expect what to go? My suggestion was to talk to the neighbours about the weed smoke coming into the house where there's children. That's what I did, and because my neighbours aren't complete dickheads, the problem got a lot better.

Obviously the police won't do anything. But the replies saying he can do what he wants on his balcony, like the OP is being precious for complaining are not correct. Whether it not the police will enforce the rule, it isn't the case that he "can" (as in, is "allowed to") smoke weed on his balcony.

buttonsB4 · 19/07/2024 23:41

Attend any London council meeting where they're discussing cladding issues and you'll hear about it.

It's made flats unsellable because the insurance is so high.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 19/07/2024 23:40

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 19/07/2024 23:34

Some of these replies are bananas. Weed is illegal, it's not within the realms of things he "can do on his balcony".

OP, you should just tell him. I had to his problem in a previous flat, it's awful. The neighbours in my case were more or less understanding - the only problem was they kept getting high and completely forgetting.

The only replies that are 'bananas' are from people who think the police will do anything at all, just because weed is illegal.

Just how many spare police do you think are knocking around, spinning on their chairs and waiting for a phone call about someone smoking a spliff?

The Met won't even turn up if your home is being burgled and the burglars are still on the premises!

TheresaCrowd · 19/07/2024 23:38

buttonsB4 · 19/07/2024 23:36

Post Grenfell and the cladding issues affecting many properties in London, Insurance prices have gone crazy.

The insurance on the flat I own has increased massively and all the Leaseholders had to agree that it was a smoking-free building, even on the roof terrace, otherwise the insurance would have been astronomical.

I'm not prepared to put my building's insurance documentation on this website, but I can assure you it's the case in my building currently and for the last 4 years.

Oh I wasn't asking you to, don't worry Blush

It's just you said 'lots of London flats' and I can't find anything.

They all mention BBQs but not cigarettes.

Wotcher · 19/07/2024 23:37

It’s truly awful, and so selfish. I suffered this in a flat as well, but luckily it wasn’t my permanent home. In the summer, like you, I needed the windows open. The guy below would come out every two hours for a fag. Literally every two hours through the night like clockwork. 11pm….1am…..3am…..5am….. it was DISGUSTING and just gave me the rage. It would come straight in my bedroom window and fill the room with fetid smoke while I was trying to sleep.

I honestly could have happily thrown the ignorant prick off that balcony.

Marblessolveeverything · 19/07/2024 23:36

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 19/07/2024 23:34

Some of these replies are bananas. Weed is illegal, it's not within the realms of things he "can do on his balcony".

OP, you should just tell him. I had to his problem in a previous flat, it's awful. The neighbours in my case were more or less understanding - the only problem was they kept getting high and completely forgetting.

Exactly how on earth do you expect that to go? Police generally look the other way if personal use.

buttonsB4 · 19/07/2024 23:36

Post Grenfell and the cladding issues affecting many properties in London, Insurance prices have gone crazy.

The insurance on the flat I own has increased massively and all the Leaseholders had to agree that it was a smoking-free building, even on the roof terrace, otherwise the insurance would have been astronomical.

I'm not prepared to put my building's insurance documentation on this website, but I can assure you it's the case in my building currently and for the last 4 years.

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 19/07/2024 23:34

Some of these replies are bananas. Weed is illegal, it's not within the realms of things he "can do on his balcony".

OP, you should just tell him. I had to his problem in a previous flat, it's awful. The neighbours in my case were more or less understanding - the only problem was they kept getting high and completely forgetting.

pictoosh · 19/07/2024 23:33

Marblessolveeverything · 19/07/2024 23:15

But you expect him to leave his premises to smoke due to your pref of not closing windows? Rightio, good luck with that.

I know.
Not sure if egotistical or just dense.

TheresaCrowd · 19/07/2024 23:30

buttonsB4 · 19/07/2024 23:23

Lots of London flats don't allow smoking in the property (whether that's indoors or on a balcony) because the insurance doesn't cover it.

I'd check with the building management and if smoking is not allowed they'll stop him or the insurance will shoot up by 10s of thousands (or be invalid if there is a fire).

That's really interesting because I used to work in property management and I have never in all my days heard of this?

Do you have a link please? I've Googled around but can't find anything?

buttonsB4 · 19/07/2024 23:23

Lots of London flats don't allow smoking in the property (whether that's indoors or on a balcony) because the insurance doesn't cover it.

I'd check with the building management and if smoking is not allowed they'll stop him or the insurance will shoot up by 10s of thousands (or be invalid if there is a fire).

Marblessolveeverything · 19/07/2024 23:15

PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 22:32

It’s entirely unreasonable to have to shut my windows every 2-3 hours when my neighbour lights up. I work from home and have better things to do with my time than to run around opening and closing windows. Our flat is very warm, even in winter. Our windows are open 90% of the year.

But you expect him to leave his premises to smoke due to your pref of not closing windows? Rightio, good luck with that.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 19/07/2024 23:14

PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 12:58

Spoken as someone who’s children aren’t regularly inhaling poisonous chemicals.

You live in London, as do I.

All our kids are regularly inhaling poisonous chemicals.

Especially if you let them out on the balcony or open your windows.

pestopastaa · 19/07/2024 23:10

You could ask him whether he ever tried vaping. Who knows he might want to quit and it provided a motive. Or you could report the weed. If he is rented he may not be there forever.

I live in a South facing new build and bought a Meaco air con with window kit. It's brilliant for a smallish room when WFH. I also have an air purifier as I live near an airport and have lung disease. Don't use it all the time but do sleep better when I do. in my bedroom I have a blackout blind so window is always shut and blind down. Much cooler. On the balcony I bought a half moon parasol that doesn't really shade the balcony (I have a small clip on shade for sitting out) but it shades the front room and makes it cooler.

Totally sympathise, I can smell smoke from miles away.

pictoosh · 19/07/2024 23:01

PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 22:32

It’s entirely unreasonable to have to shut my windows every 2-3 hours when my neighbour lights up. I work from home and have better things to do with my time than to run around opening and closing windows. Our flat is very warm, even in winter. Our windows are open 90% of the year.

Oh get real. He has better things to do than leave his house to smoke elsewhere.

Live with it.

Ellie1015 · 19/07/2024 22:55

If you talk to neighbour what are you expecting from him? To ask him to stop smoking on his own balcony is no more reasonable than asking you to close windows.

I appreciate it is not pleasant but i dont know what you want your neighbour to do. Ideally quit smoking but not realistic they will do that to help neighbour if they can't stop for the health and financial benefits.

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