Disorder in Leeds

Harehills is pretty much a No go area. Yes poverty, disenfranchisement etc go into it.

But many attempts have been made to by charities and councils to improve the area. All of which fail because of the people. There’s many lovely people there. But there is a large minority of shit heads.

It’s not surprising they kicked off over children, who were being neglected, being removed. This large minority don’t give a shit that children deserve better. It’s their area and they believe the law has no place there. It doesn’t matter to these shit heads that the kids deserve more. That their attitude just breeds more children who carry on acting this way. They even fit from it being this way and want it to continue.

They don’t care about community. They care about maintaining the status quo that lets them be shitheads. They don’t want better for their own kids or other peoples. Because their kids being better make them feel their kids are rejecting their way of living and shows them for what they are.

Scrotes

No- they are as mean, in a less obvious way, to William and Kate and Charles and Camilla as they are to the Sussexes. The meanness is just driven by different motives.

Time of year - kids off school, light nights - I think there is some 'rioting' every year aka teens being idiots.

Clearly not.

Poverty, neglect, dissatisfaction... a taste for violence, and stupidity.

Not everyone who is poor, dissatisfied, or living in a neglected area takes to the streets and riots.

Harehills has always been an area where there is a lot of poverty and thought of as not safe (I grew up not far from there). I moved to another part of the city many years ago and haven't been through Harehills in a long time until November last year. My son was taking part in a charity MMA fight and gym training was in Leeds so I had to take him and wait for him. I'm fairly street smart but I felt intimidated and fearful and there was a sense of tension in the air. I spent every evening there sitting in my car in Morrison's carpark where there was good lighting and CCTV.
Harehills and Gipton are seen as problematic areas yet 5 minutes drive away you are in Moortown and Shadwell where houses are £2 million plus...

@Leedsborn there is a difference in seeing police and a functioning police presence. If police need to retreat on the premise of unrest then it’s a no go area for police enforcement. Seeing a copper when it’s quiet is irrelevant if they disappear when there’s trouble

Based on what evidence??

England only riots when it's hot!

What a ridiculous statement. It is not a no go area for the police, unless I was imagining seeing the police on foot and in police cars only yesterday in the same area

I drove through the area where the disorder took place at the same time yesterday. It was quiet. No throngs of lawless youth and adults to be seen.

I've even driven through that spot at 3am in the morning on my own and have not felt unsafe.

It is likely that as it has been very warm this evening, then as usual, people were at the shops on the various shopping parades that are open until 9 or 10pm. Then theres the numerous restaurants and takeaways open 'til later.

So during the day it is quite a busy area and on warm nights it stays the same.

It is now a very mixed area, whites, asians, black and eastern Europeans (I know they are white too, but just to say it is a mixed area.

It wouldn't be my choice to live there. I live in Chapeltown which I much prefer Both areas are not the hellholes that some on here are saying. I have driven through other (mainly white) poorer areas and felt depressed as they were so bleak. But maybe they have changed as well.

So, just to say, that the whole of Harehills or Chapeltown are not all rioting. Most of us are not all running amok at the drop of a hat.

Most of us, just as in any area in a city, are decent law abiding people, don't you know!

Honestly, there is no helping these people. They have no interest in being helped.

I assumed it was race related. There were lots of police riots in harehills in the 80s. Didn't realise it was due to social services. I often walk through there as I live on one side of it and my sister on the other. It's pretty run down but usually ok. I've never felt unsafe.

Clearly you misunderstood my sarcasm. I completely agree, animals are so much better than people, in every way and that is what I was trying to say.

Didn’t you see the pictures of him dragging a pallet out of a youths hands so he couldn’t throw it on a fire. According to reports he’s spent hours on the street trying to stop people rioting.

I wouldn’t say it's about poverty, it's clearly a mob minded riot. They don’t care about what the problem was. I’m only surprised that this is the biggest one so far.
Here, police won't come out for kids literally committing arson on a huge scale - I had to call the fire brigade as I watched two kids (under 16) jump over a wall and run away as a house went up in huge flames.
The two who did it posed for photos in front of the fire engines amidst a sea of balaclavas who all gathered. I made a report to the police, providing CCTV. Nothing came of it.
They won't come out for burglaries.
If this exact case played out here I don’t doubt that with enough backing it would play out exactly the same. It's utterly sickening.
These are fully grown adults choosing to behave like this. What fucking hope is there for the future when nothing (as an absolute minimum) can even be done about the severely anti social kids at large constantly up and down the country. You can't argue with stupid seems to be the motto.

Are you drunk? Do you need help?

I thought that incident was in Whitechapel?

Similar lawlessness m in Blackheath (London) tonight over deaths in Bangladesh; nothing on MSM (BBC/Sky)

@WhichEllie the father says the baby was dropped on its head by one of the other kids. Both parents were at work. I do not know if that is true though.

A bus set alight and a police car totalled but there’s no road closures so everything alright?

Absolute madness. How does a baby fall out of a window?? Just yesterday I saw helicopter footage of a police chase in Los Angeles on TikTok. They finally cornered the guy and he got out of the car with his infant. I cannot imagine putting a baby in dangerous situations like this. It’s insane.

It’s cos it’s hot. And Harehills is a shit hole

Well said