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Disorder in Leeds

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OrangeFurever · 18/07/2024 21:53

Anyone watching the public disorder in Leeds? Bloody disgusting behaviour. Animals. AIBU to wish police had so many more resources to bring consequences to these absolute excuses for humanity?

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ReggaetonLente · 19/07/2024 20:45

OlgaBracley · 19/07/2024 10:32

Yes, I can see that because you are half East Asian-I presume you mean your dad is from somewhere else. But both my parents, my two sisters and all my ancestors are from Italy-it just so happens that I was born here when my parents had lived in England for 14 months. It would be unthinkable to call myself English when everyone else belonging to me was Italian-my blood is not one drop different to theirs.
Others may feel differently but I know enough in the same situation as me to say confidently that most don't!
My point is the utter craziness of English people to want to label everyone English- even if they don't have one drop of English blood, It's bloody patronising for one thing and for another, it does lead to all sorts of problems if then English people simply won't acknowledge that we are not exactly the same.

I'm European, so carry most of the same values, look like you and follow the Catholic religion-the religion that used to be the religion of this country, so I'm practically your first cousin and yet I don't feel or want to acknowledge myself as English.

Many people from another culture entirely with an entirely different religion must feel this ten times more and yet here are people shoving it down everyone's throat that all it takes is a bit of legal paper or being born under this piece of sky with not one drop of English blood and hey ho, you're English.

I think they-and I- are not and probably don't want to be either. If we accepted differences nad that some of those differences mean unpalatable things-then we wouldn't be in the silly position of some on this thread pretending that these riots were caused by English people.

Until people start referring to Cliff Richard and Felicity Kendal as Indian British, then it's all just nonsense I'm afraid.

Still, there's none so blind as those who think that being English is a marvellous compliment and one that every person who lives here is automatically English and wanting to be suburban Mr Jones. They don't. Some might but there are exceptions to every rule.

it looks as if the rioters in Harehills were mostly Asian. How do I know this? I have eyes.

I honestly think it’s a coloniser mentality. I completely know what you are saying - my daughter was born in an Asian country, to European parents (me and DH) and speaks the Asian language fluently. If she started describing herself as that country’s nationality people would think she was mad! They’d laugh!

berksandbeyond · 19/07/2024 20:38

kirbykirby · 19/07/2024 20:31

I wonder how much the clean up will cost Leeds taxpayers? Why destroy your own area?

The scumbags destroying it likely don’t pay tax, they’re just a drain on society in every way

kirbykirby · 19/07/2024 20:31

I wonder how much the clean up will cost Leeds taxpayers? Why destroy your own area?

Wetherspoons · 19/07/2024 18:44

cakeorwine · 19/07/2024 18:24

I notice that certain prominent MPs and commentators have jumped in with ill informed comments on this.

I wonder if Farage has even been to Harehills.

In his life, Farage has hardly ever been to Clacton nevermind Harehills.

*Not Starmer's biggest fan but it's a shame he won that seat, the Labour candidate was quite dapper.

decionsdecisions62 · 19/07/2024 18:32

He would be too scared! He's a cringeworthy cowardly little turd!

cakeorwine · 19/07/2024 18:24

I notice that certain prominent MPs and commentators have jumped in with ill informed comments on this.

I wonder if Farage has even been to Harehills.

marshmallowmix · 19/07/2024 17:44

Yep 🤣@Wetherspoons

Wetherspoons · 19/07/2024 17:31

marshmallowmix · 19/07/2024 17:16

Police and SS went in as the family were planning to take the kids to Romania tomorrow …a baby has a fractured skull 😦.

A local woman said she told the bus driver get off the bus and save your life…this type of behaviour has no place in our society…it’s scary 😟 .

That acronym is quite unfortunate 😬

ATenShun · 19/07/2024 17:23

rallyup · 19/07/2024 17:20

Ok but the Romany are Indians. Not Romanians.

Or from Roma in Italy for that matter.

They are believed to have originated there, but are considered nomadic. People from Rome are either Italian or call themselves Romans.

Lovinglife66 · 19/07/2024 17:21

RosesAndHellebores · 18/07/2024 22:04

Poverty, dissatisfaction, drugs, no hope.

Like the 80’s!

rallyup · 19/07/2024 17:20

Ok but the Romany are Indians. Not Romanians.

Or from Roma in Italy for that matter.

rallyup · 19/07/2024 17:19

Shame that cancelling the bus route there would only impact the people that need to get to work.

ATenShun · 19/07/2024 17:19

rallyup · 19/07/2024 17:11

I wonder how many people know the difference between Romanians and Romany? This thread is teaching me that not many.

The vast majority of Roma in the UK have come from Romania. There are some from Hungary, Bulgaria and Turkey but even they avoid the Romanians.

roundspongecake · 19/07/2024 17:18

rallyup · 19/07/2024 17:12

On the news it was reports to be £100,000!

Yup. The newer ones cost waaaay more.

IClaudine · 19/07/2024 17:17

rallyup · 19/07/2024 17:11

I wonder how many people know the difference between Romanians and Romany? This thread is teaching me that not many.

Indeed.

marshmallowmix · 19/07/2024 17:16

Police and SS went in as the family were planning to take the kids to Romania tomorrow …a baby has a fractured skull 😦.

A local woman said she told the bus driver get off the bus and save your life…this type of behaviour has no place in our society…it’s scary 😟 .

rallyup · 19/07/2024 17:12

roundspongecake · 19/07/2024 17:11

Buses are bloody expensive. I wouldn't be surprised if the company stop serving that part of the route

On the news it was reports to be £100,000!

roundspongecake · 19/07/2024 17:11

Buses are bloody expensive. I wouldn't be surprised if the company stop serving that part of the route

Wetherspoons · 19/07/2024 17:11

Inkyblue123 · 19/07/2024 16:01

What a load of boolloocks , I grew up and live in a very impoverished area; not everybody chooses a life of crime, or drugs, or neglecting their kids. It’s a piss poor excuse. Unfortunately the police are not responsible for convicting people and it will be our courts who let them away with it. It’s this kind of excuse making that makes life difficult for the rest of us and actually short changes kids being brought up in this environment.

Exactly, blaming it on dissatisfaction with life removes agency from the individuals who do decide to do the above things (life of crime, drugs, neglecting kids) and goes halfway to normalising it somewhat.

Especially on that last part of neglecting kids, absolutely no excuse for that.

rallyup · 19/07/2024 17:11

HarrietPierce · 19/07/2024 17:08

marshmallowmix · Today 15:18
"they aren’t pink, purple or tartan 🤣they are Romanian according to social media"

Roma not Romanian.

I wonder how many people know the difference between Romanians and Romany? This thread is teaching me that not many.

HarrietPierce · 19/07/2024 17:08

marshmallowmix · Today 15:18
"they aren’t pink, purple or tartan 🤣they are Romanian according to social media"

Roma not Romanian.

IClaudine · 19/07/2024 16:59

How do we know all the rioters were not born here?

I think the rhetoric needs dialling down a bit, tbh. Idiots riot and being an idiot isn't the preserve of non British people as we saw in the 80s and in 2011.

*Edited as have just seen something suggesting the family concerned is not from the UK.

Boomer55 · 19/07/2024 16:56

A child needed to be taken into care. Some locals responded.

Username1010 · 19/07/2024 16:54

a police car tipped over and a bus set on fire

ultimately it was a storm in a teacup

Okay….. not quite sure how to respond to that tbh.

CantDealwithChristmas · 19/07/2024 16:43

inamarina · 19/07/2024 16:22

Couldn’t agree more.
My family were immigrants, had to give up their careers after moving to a new country and start from scratch.
We knew several families like ours, all faced difficulties, all had to work hard, and several unfortunately also encountered prejudice and xenophobia.
That didn’t prompt them to start smashing up police cars or setting things on fire.

Same here. My family escaped danger and poverty in their country of origin and came here wanting nothing more than to adapt to British culture and be part of it, not attack it.