Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Over heard DH on the phone

217 replies

Misschananderlerbongg · 18/07/2024 21:18

I really am genuinely wondering if I’m being unreasonable.

Just overheard DH on the phone and it was clear at the other end his friend was talking about the fact his wife had just had a boob job. They’re not close friends.

DH then said ‘I can only dream, that would be amazing’.

Then ‘every Man I know that paid for it had said it was a great investment, money well spent, no one has regretted it’. He’s brought this up with me before.

Then ‘oh I know it’s a no go here, she wouldn’t go for it’ in a very sad voice.

‘It needs to be initiated by the woman, I can’t bring it up’. Then what a lucky guy you are type chat.

This has made me very upset for a few reasons:

  1. I have small boobs, but have breast fed 2 kids and think they’re in pretty good shape
  2. it’s major surgery and he’s seen me go through major medically required surgery
  3. HE has put on weight, I have not and I never comment on it and wouldn’t dream or commenting on it
  4. He never compliments me or makes me feel sexy, and now I know he doesn’t like my boobs.

But I’m tired and emotional and keen to understand if I’m in the wrong? It just feels like a betrayal to talk about my body like this 😔

OP posts:
Whatineed · 19/07/2024 14:15

Sunshineafterthehail · 18/07/2024 21:23

Talk to him about surgical penis enlargement.. Tell him you could go abroad and get joint surgeries....

Or just put a jam jar in the kitchen labelled penis extension fund and ask everyone to donate generously.

Anele22 · 19/07/2024 14:10

It’s quite obviously a complete objectification of a woman. Unless the implants increased the woman’s sensitivity, which I very much doubt they do, then this is all about the men’s needs and nothing about the woman. In fact if implants decrease sensitivity then you have to wonder why they would be sexy to men.

Surely what is sexy is, turning your partner on?

I have one fake breast – reconstructed after a mastectomy. My partner never gives it any attention unless I ask him to, (even though it’s a bit more pert and firmer than my real one) because I have limited sensitivity in it. I’m sure he can’t see the point.

If your man likes the idea of fake breasts Maybe make him a pair out of Play-Doh and he can play with them when you’re out of the house or otherwise busy . Job done.

reallyworriedjobhunter · 19/07/2024 13:06

This would be a great topic for your next couples therapy session btw.

MissUltraViolet · 19/07/2024 11:31

I'd have interrupted him mid phone call and very loudly asked whether he would be willing to donate some of his man boob because it might make the procedure cheaper.

Sorry your husband is a prick.

lto2019 · 19/07/2024 11:27

Sunshineafterthehail · 18/07/2024 21:23

Talk to him about surgical penis enlargement.. Tell him you could go abroad and get joint surgeries....

He sounds an utter dick.
I'd sign his email up for some body improvement type sites - gyms/ weight loss and see how he likes the implications he needs to improve himself. Ask him how he would like to over hear you discussing with your friends their husband's penis enlargement ops and your sad voice about he wouldn't entertain it. If he suggests he doesn't need one - laugh out load and keep laughing.

Obek1999 · 19/07/2024 10:43

RogersOrganismicProcess · 18/07/2024 21:23

“so, DH I heard you talking to your friend about boob jobs. I am upset that you feel it is ok to talk about my body with someone else. I feel betrayed. I want you to properly take that in, and there isn’t to be a repeat.”

If you have to spell this out to your partner, you're already on a hiding to nothing.

MrBigsCat · 19/07/2024 10:32

@Misschananderlerbongg you deserve to be with a guy that goes ‘oh great mate they sound fun,……… but nah I wouldn’t change misschandler for the world’

I would struggle to get past this too even if my partner DID regularly compliment me, I couldn’t forget hearing this

Projectme · 19/07/2024 09:45

Urgh. My first thought was 'well, I'd never be having sex with him again if that was my husband!' What a truly horrible conversation to have with someone.
I'm so sorry OP.

I think I'd have to raise it with him directly. Tell him exactly how hurt and upset he has made you with his comments. And don't let him get away with 'oh I was only joking'...you really do need for him to understand how hurtful his comments were. He's not exactly a good role model for your two boys is he?

And if he still doesn't get it, explain to him that you'd like for him to have his penis enlarged as you'd prefer a bigger one...

Fucking knob.

HaveAWordWithYerselfWouldYa · 19/07/2024 09:38

Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 19/07/2024 07:52

Tell him you’ll get a boob job when he loses weight

Nope, a penis extension.

Losing weight doesn't involve money, surgery, recovery, check ups etc. THAT is the reality of what he wants his wife to do to be "acceptable" to his fat self.

Itiswhysofew · 19/07/2024 09:35

Your boobs are not his property. He has no say in it. Dream on, mate!

Hope you're doing OK today.

p.s. Big books are a nightmare. Wouldn't wish them on my worst enemyDaffodil

Dayoldbag · 19/07/2024 09:34

OP, I mean this kindly but you need to take a deep breath and refuse to give him this power.
You have had two children, breast fed, which isn't easy, and you have worked hard to keep in shape.

NONE of the above is easy.
But YOU have done it.
This is a man who has form for not supporting you.
He sounds like a little man-child that is devoid of any self respect.
What decent man speaks like this about his wife?
He sounds as if is quietly jealous of your achievements and he withholds support of you as subtle punishment.

He certainly isn't connected and cherishing of you.
To speak of your body like that with someone is so profoundly disrespectful and disconnected.

You deserve so much better.
Do not allow this excuse of a man to take any more from you, he simply isn't worth it.

I think you know your marriage is doomed.
I think you need to move into a spare bedroom and do everything from a place of suiting yourself.
Stop making any effort whatsoever with him.
You have done what you could to safe this dead duck marriage.
Instead start planning your future and get those ducks in a row.

Keep those that love you close and lean on them.
YOU are a strong woman and you will get through this.
We are here for you.
You deserve so much better than him.
Keep reminding yourself of that.

Treeslovetrees · 19/07/2024 09:32

I’d be upset and casually mention that I was discussing the investment of penis enlargement surgery with my friend. Watch his face …

YellowAsteroid · 19/07/2024 09:18

He’s put on weight and he’s complaining about your body?

Breast surgery is serious stuff. Has he had a vasectomy? Would be prepared to have major surgery, medically unnecessary, because you thought something about his body wasn’t good enough?

crikey, every time I read this sort of post I am thankful to be single.

I hope you find some resolution of this @Misschananderlerbongg because it must be very hard for you at the moment.

FigTreeInEurope · 19/07/2024 09:06

UpThereForThinkingDownThereForDancing · 18/07/2024 22:58

My respect for him would evaporate and with it any sexual attraction for him.

A man who thinks surgically altering his wife is a good investment. 🤢🙄
What about loving your wife and her body being the physical presence of a person he loves, being grateful if it is healthy and brings her joy, though dance or running or cuddling, or any number of ways a body can give you a fun life... if sensory pleasure can be enjoyed through it, and being grateful that he can be part of that.

What. A. Dick.

My wife has been a few different shapes and sizes over the years. I've never commented, but i definitely have a preference. I've always loved her body though, because it birthed our kids, worked itself to the bone to build our business, nursed us all through ill health. At this point, i kind of feel like my actual sexuality is bonded to her body, i can't imagine being with anyone else. Honestly, this is an absolutely disgusting way to talk about your wife. He should be ashamed of himself, and it shows something very fundamentally wrong with your marriage.

JonHammFan · 19/07/2024 08:22

Hey OP

You sound like a wonderful woman who is trying very hard in your marriage. Could I suggest trying much less, as it seems you're the one putting in all the emotional labour?

I was glad to read your update and see that you woke up and were still enraged. As women, I believe that we are often socialised to suppress our anger. However, I think it's about time more men copped the brunt of it. Particularly in this case where your husband has been so exceptionally cruel and shallow. He has betrayed you. And now that he's been caught put, he's trying to backpedal and protest that he 'didn't mean it like that.' So how exactly did he mean it then? His response is immature and pathetic and he appears concerned primarily with what 'trouble' he is in, like a small child.

Also, I would be very interested to get him to state and commit to what he is actually going to do over the long term to make things right. Apologies are very easy - they are, after all, just words - but sustained behavioural change is another level entirely.

I agree with other PP that bringing this up with your marriage counsellor would be worthwhile. That is, if you can even be bothered trying in this marriage anymore. I think you deserve far, far more than you're getting from this wanker.

NeedToChangeName · 19/07/2024 08:19

I have the impression the relationship has been difficult for some time and this comment may be the final straw that broke the camel's back

OP, I can't imagine my DH discussing my body in this way. It's hugely disrespectful

CinnamonJellyBeans · 19/07/2024 07:55

All you people trying to cheer yourself/each other/the OP up with tales of how different breast sizes and shapes become popular, so one day yours/theirs/hers will be acceptable and maybe even desirable...

Listen to yourselves and give your head a wobble.

You're also relying on validation from others on whether your own body is acceptable. Whether it's Ruben's, HBO or thick white van man OP husband, you're looking at your own breasts through someone else's lens. Stop it.

Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 19/07/2024 07:52

Tell him you’ll get a boob job when he loses weight

FloordrobeIsGoingToGetME · 19/07/2024 07:50

How upsetting.

Sorry to say, for me this would probably be very hard to get past, OP.

FrancescaContini · 19/07/2024 07:45

OrwellianTimes · 18/07/2024 21:20

Goodness, what a grim concept “investment” in physically upgrading your wife.

OP I’d be upset, your body is a wonderful thing and doesn’t need changing. You should be proud of it.

Agree

DefyingGravitas · 19/07/2024 07:45

mrsdineen2 · 18/07/2024 21:21

Eavesdroppers rarely hear good things.

Eavesdroppers of husbands who talk about women’s bodies as though they’re purely for their sexual pleasure don’t hear good things.

Clue: it’s not her fault.

RogersOrganismicProcess · 19/07/2024 07:43

Misschananderlerbongg · 19/07/2024 07:27

I’ve woken up still enraged and it’s clear if things stay the way they are he’ll just kill my self esteem.

I’ve done pretty well in my career but have just had a big change which is daunting. I was dreaming last night of what it would be like to be with someone who actually cheer leads and supports me. Someone who is proud of me, he never says he is.

Then there’s the fact I do like my body on the whole, I’ve had 2 kids and I am proud of it. If I stay with him I’ll continue to second guess this and feel under confident about it.

I don’t want to be naked in front of him anymore, certainly don’t want to have sex with him.

To those asking I’ve got boys, I’m a feminist and am raising them to respect women. So I worry what they’ll inherit.

You articulate all of this beautifully. Say this to him, or write it down and give it to him if it feels easier to say exactly what you mean. He needs to fully comprehend why what he has said/done is so abhorrent.

diddl · 19/07/2024 07:40

Even if you weren't keen on your body you might not be wanting surgery.

For me surgery would have to be life saving.

Don't let him give you doubts.

Misschananderlerbongg · 19/07/2024 07:27

I’ve woken up still enraged and it’s clear if things stay the way they are he’ll just kill my self esteem.

I’ve done pretty well in my career but have just had a big change which is daunting. I was dreaming last night of what it would be like to be with someone who actually cheer leads and supports me. Someone who is proud of me, he never says he is.

Then there’s the fact I do like my body on the whole, I’ve had 2 kids and I am proud of it. If I stay with him I’ll continue to second guess this and feel under confident about it.

I don’t want to be naked in front of him anymore, certainly don’t want to have sex with him.

To those asking I’ve got boys, I’m a feminist and am raising them to respect women. So I worry what they’ll inherit.

OP posts:
Opinionwontchangeluv · 19/07/2024 02:10

Would upset me too. I have big boobs and would prefer them way smaller, please don't feel insecure a lot of men don't care about boobs.