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Nursery workers drinking at lunchtime.

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Brendathedoll · 18/07/2024 13:12

Had a rare day off yesterday so went for a pub lunch with my sister. In there I saw 2 nursery nurses from my child’s daycare having lunch and they each had a glass of wine. There were also 2 empty glasses in the table but possibly from previous customers. I wasn’t happy but my sister says it’s there lunchtime they don’t get paid for and 2 glasses won’t make any difference. They saw me and looked a bit sheepish but it means I can’t report them anon now. I’m scared if I say something they would treat my child differently. Am I being ott thinkinb they shouldn’t drink while caring for kids?

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PurpleBugz · 19/07/2024 22:38

I work in early years. You can't drink ANY alcohol and then go to work! It's instant dismissal so reporting it won't get your kid treated differently they will be gone. And if they are innocent and decent childcare workers they would understand as safeguarding is everyone's responsibility.

I really don't like this attitude everyone has if stay out of these things. These are children. Alcohol slows reactions. What if you have to deal with a choking incident or a fit? What if a child climbs dangerously and you need to go up and get them down? This is not safe to do with small children. We should all not think twice of double checking children are safe and cared for by appropriate people.

I don't judge anyone who wants to get fully plastered when off duty so long as they are sober before they go back to work (hangovers at nursery infuriates me to). I drink around my own kids on occasion it's completely different when it's your own kids.

If I had an afternoon off and got reported for having a drink I would not be offended. If I'm employed my employer would know I was off work. As I'm self employed I would just show my register that I wasn't working. If doesn't ruin your career if you are innocent. And it's not upsetting to know you could ve questioned it's part of working with kids ffs

Greenshed · 19/07/2024 22:28

She happens to know? Her sister used to work there? When? Things change. New systems alter how things once were. One hour lunch breaks are a rarity, especially in education, believe me.

Mamtorr · 19/07/2024 22:25

Debdelight · 19/07/2024 22:03

Just discussed this thread with my Dd. If who you saw was a red head and mixed race pair and the pub was in the midlands then it could be them

My Dd worked half day yesterday and her colleague was off. They got together after Dd shift as it would be last catch up before breaking up today as they only work term time. My Dd had tonic water in what could have looked like a wine glass and her colleague had wine.

Dd didn't have tabard on as she had finished shift. Even when on shift they take tabard off at their half hour lunch even if just dashing over the road to get lunch from Tesco.

Of the 3 nurseries she has worked in she has always had half hour break. Two colleagues off for same lunch time is unusual as they normally need cover to keep ratios.

If it was her you saw then the sheepish look was a "please God don't come over to discuss your child" look. She has it when she goes supermarket shopping and sees parents who want to talk work. She works damn hard for minimum wage so give her a break.

If it was her then she says she will see you September!

Just bumping this 🤣

TheQueenWhoNeverWas · 19/07/2024 22:20

Greenshed · 19/07/2024 22:09

The more I read the thread, the more I’m convinced the idea of these women drinking 2? glasses of wine and eating lunch in a pub - getting there, getting served, eating and drinking said meal and booze, and getting back to work - in a 30 minute time frame - is a load of rubbish. There’s no way that anyone will have the time to do this. Think about it - in that 30 mins they’ve first got to get to the venue, then read the menu, then decide what they’re having, then place the order, then have time to eat it and drink 2 (?) glasses of wine. Even if they pre- ordered the meal before arriving, getting through it, drinking 1 (or2) glasses of wine once it is served, and then back to work within 30 minutes is nigh on miraculous. Plus, don’t you think the staff back at the nursery might smell the alcohol on their breath? The whole thing is ludicrous.

The OP's version of events is that the pub is right next door to the nursery and she happens to know that they get a full hour break because her sister used to work at the nursery.

So on those facts the timings would stack up perfectly fine for a quick pub meal and a glass of wine. You'd need to go some to get two glasses in in that time, but you could do it if you really wanted to.

Greenshed · 19/07/2024 22:09

The more I read the thread, the more I’m convinced the idea of these women drinking 2? glasses of wine and eating lunch in a pub - getting there, getting served, eating and drinking said meal and booze, and getting back to work - in a 30 minute time frame - is a load of rubbish. There’s no way that anyone will have the time to do this. Think about it - in that 30 mins they’ve first got to get to the venue, then read the menu, then decide what they’re having, then place the order, then have time to eat it and drink 2 (?) glasses of wine. Even if they pre- ordered the meal before arriving, getting through it, drinking 1 (or2) glasses of wine once it is served, and then back to work within 30 minutes is nigh on miraculous. Plus, don’t you think the staff back at the nursery might smell the alcohol on their breath? The whole thing is ludicrous.

TooManyBookcases · 19/07/2024 22:06

How do you know it wasn’t non alcoholic wine?

Debdelight · 19/07/2024 22:03

Just discussed this thread with my Dd. If who you saw was a red head and mixed race pair and the pub was in the midlands then it could be them

My Dd worked half day yesterday and her colleague was off. They got together after Dd shift as it would be last catch up before breaking up today as they only work term time. My Dd had tonic water in what could have looked like a wine glass and her colleague had wine.

Dd didn't have tabard on as she had finished shift. Even when on shift they take tabard off at their half hour lunch even if just dashing over the road to get lunch from Tesco.

Of the 3 nurseries she has worked in she has always had half hour break. Two colleagues off for same lunch time is unusual as they normally need cover to keep ratios.

If it was her you saw then the sheepish look was a "please God don't come over to discuss your child" look. She has it when she goes supermarket shopping and sees parents who want to talk work. She works damn hard for minimum wage so give her a break.

If it was her then she says she will see you September!

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/07/2024 22:01

But you didn't say combination

And you specifically mentioned twice about food

Sure sounded like they shouldn't eat because it can make them tired!

BurntBroccoli · 19/07/2024 21:51

@ButWhatAboutTheBees
Of course not however the combination of alcohol and food that would raise your blood sugar levels through the roof followed by a crash in energy.

betterangels · 19/07/2024 21:47

Even without alcohol, I always feel more tired after eating lunch.

So, you think staff will be more alert if they don't eat? Make it make sense.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/07/2024 21:44

A couple of drinks at lunch time plus a meal would make you less alert. That split second could mean a life or death situation.Even without alcohol, I always feel more tired after eating lunch.

So staff aren't even allowed to eat lunch now in case it makes them sleepy?

Wtf?!

BurntBroccoli · 19/07/2024 21:37

@Bluebirdover

"Apparently not according to @TheQueenWhoNeverWas who appears to be the font of all knowledge when it comes to alcohol free wines..."

The OP could easily contact the pub to check... quick phone call.

BurntBroccoli · 19/07/2024 21:35

Nanny1965 · 19/07/2024 18:17

Could it of been alcohol free or perhaps a different soft drink in a wine glass

Unlikely they would serve a soft drink in a wine glass.
Usually a tall tumbler with ice.

Littletinytarzanswingingfromanosehair · 19/07/2024 21:34

betterangels · 19/07/2024 21:30

I hope the staff aren't likely to see this in the media and could put the 2 and 2 together.

It might be good if they did so they know some parent is questioning their professional judgment online based on absolutely nothing.

True and it does certainly raise awareness.
Again, could be a day off so could be fussy over nothing.

Cel77 · 19/07/2024 21:33

Maybe they were not working that day? Or they had finished their shift?
That's probably the reason otherwise it would be rather strange...

BurntBroccoli · 19/07/2024 21:31

Coastgirl22 · 19/07/2024 17:54

Nursery owner - completely unacceptable, it’s in our employment policies no alcohol or drugs during working hours or close enough to working hours to be noticeable, in the judgement of manager - It’s gross misconduct here - you must report it. Their judgement would be affected after even a small amount of alcohol which puts the children at risk. I’m shocked tbh! Beyond unprofessional.

Absolutely! Why wouldn't you if your child was at the nursery? A couple of drinks at lunch time plus a meal would make you less alert. That split second could mean a life or death situation.

Even without alcohol, I always feel more tired after eating lunch.

betterangels · 19/07/2024 21:30

I hope the staff aren't likely to see this in the media and could put the 2 and 2 together.

It might be good if they did so they know some parent is questioning their professional judgment online based on absolutely nothing.

Charmatt · 19/07/2024 21:28

Given the working time directive, they could be short staffed but the 2 workers could still be off.

In my experience, most nursery workers only get half an hour lunch, so it's unlikely they could get there and drink that much in that time.

Maybe they were on a half day?

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/07/2024 21:24

Mamtorr · 19/07/2024 20:22

@Brendathedoll your thread has been picked up by the sun

And thus someone's career could be in jeopardy because OP judged based on little facts!

bloodyhellKen22 · 19/07/2024 21:21

@getsomehelp but the op has said she doesn't know if they were at work that day?

I actually can't believe these comments. The poor nursery workers were probably just friends enjoying some time off. I'd be so annoyed if I was being reported for enjoying my free time.

I feel it's highly unlikely that the nursery workers would be drinking on their lunch break somewhere so close to their workplace! Also, even an hour isn't really enough time to order, eat and drink.

bloodyhellKen22 · 19/07/2024 21:12

I'm thinking it was more likely they were off together for the day. You saw two people that work at the nursery, not in their uniform having lunch together and you're assuming they're drinking on the job. 🙄

Littletinytarzanswingingfromanosehair · 19/07/2024 21:10

I hope the staff aren't likely to see this in the media and could put the 2 and 2 together.

You are right to be concerned sure, but I highly doubt they would be seen so close to work drinking during shift. Likely to be a day of and having a good chinwag.

DiscoBeat · 19/07/2024 20:38

If you don't know the glasses were theirs and you also don't know if they had the afternoon off I'd butt out of it.

Julimia · 19/07/2024 20:35

Oh do get a grip. These ladies were in a public place being civilised in their time. They value their jobs and you are totally undermining them with your over reaction. Why report them they were in a public place not swigging diwn a back ally.

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