Nursery workers drinking at lunchtime.

I think what carers in all places deserve praise, but they do not get it when some of their number abuse their positions by their negative behaviour in public.

Gosh you have a very odd relationship with alcohol if you think a glass of wine in the pub is 'negative behaviour'. 🫠

Yep, my kids are done with nursery now. And that's not true of my experience at all.

Our nursery had two weeks in the year where the whole place shut down - aside from that, employees took leave when they requested it, like any other job.

I happen to think nursery workers are higher than many other professions. They have the responsibility of ''bringing up baby''. Their responsibility is so much higher than that of many other professions. They do not get paid commensurate with the work they do because parents would have to pay more. It does not mean they do not deserve more.

If I am a nutter because I honour and praise those who work in care, babies, children and domiciliary work with adults and disabled, then long may I stay a nutter, especially to the likes of you, who resort to insults and bad language in a desperate bid to make me change my mind.

I think what carers in all places deserve praise, but they do not get it when some of their number abuse their positions by their negative behaviour in public.

I gave my opinion on the OP. I have not changed that opinion. You, however, have now said that nursery workers don't deserve the esteem so few of us give them. That, whataboutthe bees, says it all. On behalf of all the nutters out in society who praise the work of care people whoever and wherever they are, I thank you for showing your true colours.

@Cazareeto1 I DID THE CAPITALS TO MAKE A POINT, THE SAME REASON I LINKED THE THREE POSTS ABOUT PART TIME NURSERY WORKERS.

Honestly, you're not really a gods authority because you've had three children and numerous nurseries, makes me wonder why you've had so many nurseries..... lots of changes because???? 🤔

That would be very expensive, but you can be sure that such nannies and nursery nurses would NEVER discredit their training or their employers by being seen in compromising places.

Ah, you're weird and rich aren't you?

@Cazareeto1 you're incorrect, not trainees at all!

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Never had to use the word bra?

Nah, you're having a laugh

There's no way tou genuinely think nursery workers drinking after work is them being unfit

If a nursery worker sees a parent drinking, guess what, they won't do FUCK ALL unless they are drinking and abusing/abandoning their child

After 30 years in childcare I have never encountered a nursery worker who would drink any alcohol at any time.

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Only nursery staff who are part time tend to be training… iv got 3 kids done the nursery thing for many years at 3 different nurseries…good nursery’s have the same staff daily who are full time so that the kids have a positive bond with their caregivers at nursery… a crap one will have part time staff and little full time.. which creates very young children to become unsettled. 🤦‍♀️

most nursery staff are full time do you have kids who have went to nursery yet?? 🤦‍♀️

Loads are part time..... what makes you say otherwise?

Yet you did that your self… ok need a wee break love?

most have their holidays when it runs in line with school holidays for 3-5 year olds… have you got kids who have went to nursery yet?

The point is I think you're madly uptight and frankly quite weird.

YOU DON'T NEED TO CAPITALISE TO MAKE YOUR POINT!! THAT'S ANOTHER WEIRD ACTION!

Nursery teachers work 5 days a week not often they have part time staff is it.

Nursery workers will work shifts and have annual leave. I mean really, you needed that explained? 🫠

To be honest no it’s not ok for people who are looking after others childrens on a professional level, to drink during working hours including lunch break come on why do you ask this and not report it! You think it was a one off really?? Nursery teachers work 5 days a week not often they have part time staff is it. So they would have been working if especially if they are always short staffed. They are looking after what possibly from 6 months to 5 years with a minimum of 1 nursery staff to every 13 children which is less the younger the child. And you think 2 glasses of wine at lunch time they are capable of doing that? And if they are short staffed they probably will be one teacher to 13 infants… why are you asking mums on the internet and not reporting your child if this is a regular thing with the staff is in their care so your own child and other children are at risk of being injured or emotionally neglected.. its not ok.. im disappointed you post and not report the y are not allowed to drink during working hours which includes their lunch break btw!

Because nutters like you exist who think nursery workers are some kind of higher being who should be above us lowly mortals

It might not be drinking in or out of hours: it could be shoplifting - or WORSE - if you get my drift.

Yep. Total radge.

Ask yourselves all you who agree with the staff in the pub, if you would expect good references. Why do you expect them, since you excuse their behaviour outside of work? It might not be drinking in or out of hours: it could be shoplifting - or WORSE - if you get my drift.

Er, shoplifting is illegal. Drinking in a pub isn't. Don't you know this?

Bluebirdover · Today 16:25
** why?

The public house (aka pub and are you the person who uses the term brassier abd not bra?), could be used, because...

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What do you mean by this please? As far as I can remember, I have not posted about the garment on this site. You are obviously trying to make a point: it just escapes me what it is.

I am impressed by the number of people who think that bad language and putting forward the case for supporting care workers seen drinking in pubs near their place of work will change my mind. It will not.

If you place your baby in someone else's care, do you expect them to have been trained? Do you look at their references? Does the nursery owner show you the references of the staff they employ? If they do not, do they instead vouch for them in writing? Ask yourselves all you who agree with the staff in the pub, if you would expect good references. Why do you expect them, since you excuse their behaviour outside of work? It might not be drinking in or out of hours: it could be shoplifting - or WORSE - if you get my drift.

What the responses to the OP have shown is that British education has failed to teach social history, and if you don't have knowledge of the past, how can you make life better?

Put it another way: HOW DO YOU CHOOSE A NURSERY PLACE FOR YOUR BABIES? Do you choose one that has empty places to fill? (rather like putting gran away in a residential home which is half empty and not asking why) Do you ask about the staff, their qualifications and where they were trained? Do you ask to see their qualifications, or just take the boss's word for it? Do you ask about ratio of staff to babies, bearing in mind it changes for age differences?

If you were well off and had the money to pay a nanny, where would you go to find one? Wouldn't your first thought be the best trained nannies? That would be very expensive, but you can be sure that such nannies and nursery nurses would NEVER discredit their training or their employers by being seen in compromising places. It is perfectly acceptable to enjoy yourself in your days off in the company of friends, including drinking alcohol outside working hours. Have I said otherwise? That is not the same as popping to the pub next door and having a lunch washed down with alcohol. If people responsible for the care of others want to drink, why flaunt themselves by choosing to be so close to their employment, if they want to ensure they get a good reference?

In response to your naive first paragraph, I find it amazing that people on here expect their child to receive better care from their paid minder that from those who chose to breed them!

Why would anyone in a caring profession choose to have lunch in a public house?

Because they're grown adults who can do what they please in their own time. HTH.

Bold fail!!

But you get my just @llizzie

I hav*e no idea about 'brassier'. As far as I remember, I have never had occasion to mention the garment, either like that or in it's shortened form.

. I would not send my children to a nursery next door to a pub anyway, because little ones grow up thinking it is quite normal.

Here's something to set your teeth on* edge *

Is it my business? No, Why should it be? My children are grown from that stage. I can tell you though that if there was a pub next door to any of the nursery schools, I would not have enrolled my children there, so again, it would be no business of mine what the staff did. However, if I did send children to such a nursery, and I did see staff in a pub, whatever the time of day, I would report the matter and remove the children and send them somewhere else, no matter I had to stay off work while I found one.*

Peak Mumsnet!! What's the radius of the vicinity of the pub to nursery before you would send your children there? Two doors away, four doors away?

You've never used the term bra or brassier? What do you say you put your tits in then?

I have no idea about 'brassier'. As far as I remember, I have never had occasion to mention the garment, either like that or in it's shortened form.

None of your reasons makes much sense to me, seeing as I have expressed an opinion that it is unwise for nursery workers to wash down their pub lunch with alcohol, especially in the public house next to their place of employment - a nursery. I would not send my children to a nursery next door to a pub anyway, because little ones grow up thinking it is quite normal.

Here's something to set your teeth on edge again: -

It reminds me of the 19/20th centuries when parents left children outside pubs while they drank inside. It was argued that children would think it acceptable and would just repeat what they see their parents do.

Nothing new there then, if adults don't mind the nursery nurses going into the pub (to relieve the tension?) what is it to do with me? Nothing. I gave my opinion based on the OP.

Is it my business? No, Why should it be? My children are grown from that stage. I can tell you though that if there was a pub next door to any of the nursery schools, I would not have enrolled my children there, so again, it would be no business of mine what the staff did. However, if I did send children to such a nursery, and I did see staff in a pub, whatever the time of day, I would report the matter and remove the children and send them somewhere else, no matter I had to stay off work while I found one.

Mothers have that choice. If they choose to take the side of staff and rationalise the reasons why they should not speak up, that is for them. I gave my opinion. I can do that. You differ. You can do that.