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Is it common decency to inform neighbours who wfh about loud noises?

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Pouche · 18/07/2024 12:09

Neighbours have literally removed their entire hedge and whilst that is being wood chipped down on their drive there is also a drill being used for the construction of a new fence. The noise is unbelievable. Detached houses with wide-ish plots.

Am I being unreasonable in thinking the nice thing to do would be to inform next door neighbours?

Especially when you know they wfh and have young kids.

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GeraniumLeaves · 18/07/2024 12:41

Pouche · 18/07/2024 12:23

okay so no wonder this country has so many issues, common decency is dead it appears by the attitudes on this thread. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

I agree and don’t know why you’re getting all the responses saying they’re entitled to have the work done. Nobody’s disputing that. And, no, going into the office once the working day has started isn’t an answer as it is generally disruptive unless you live close by.

Next door neighbours had three weeks of loud refurbishment last year. I did think it would have been nice to have been told in advance.

Spinet · 18/07/2024 12:41

It is REALLY ANNOYING. But they probably didn't realise or think about how noisy it would be to chop a hedge down and put a fence up. Plus you will probably find yourself doing something equally annoying one day so it's better just to put up with it for a short time.

I'd be more annoyed about the hedge/ fence exchange for wildlife reasons!

janeclipse · 18/07/2024 12:41

You are right. It is reasonable to expect it. My near neighbours came to do just that a couple of weeks ago. They reassured that they wouldn't start early morning or continue late at night, and have been true to their word.

It's considerate behaviour, and I'm grateful they took the trouble to speak to me.

  • as a one-off, or minor noisy repairs, wouldn't expect them to warn me. The noise from my neighbours is expected to last several weeks.
catgirl1976 · 18/07/2024 12:40

Large project that will go on for several days or more - yes inform neighbours
Small project that will last a day or less - no, no need

These are the rules
<gavel>

Ouchfuckingouchmyarse · 18/07/2024 12:39

I think so, to me it's just being polite and considerate, nothing to do with WFH or whether you have children. We used to always let ours know when we were doing anything that could be loud or annoying, but they don't seem to think it should work the other way! It's not so anyone can object more so people can plan around it if they want e.g. the last time they had a loud garden party that went on really late, we'd prob have gone away for the night if we'd known in advance. Same when they were having their garden dug up, no notice of diggers arriving etc and then I was stuck WFH trying unsuccessfully to do Teams calls over the noise when I'd have gone to the office if I'd known.

Pouche · 18/07/2024 12:39

loudbatperson · 18/07/2024 12:36

Could the childminder not take your child to your parent's house now? That's the map disturbance sorted.

As for WFH, I would just move to the quietest part of the house and offer my apologies on calls. It would have been nice to have a heads up, but not everyone will do you need a contingency plan.

I don't have the choice to move to the office when it's noisy at home, as they closed both London offices. Being London every scrap of land is being built on, including 2 corner plots on my road (I am one house away from one and over the road from the other). I have just had to learn to adapt and move around the house depending on noise. I have also invested in a really good headset that drowns out the noise and has great non speech noise suppression for the microphone.

Childminder does not have a car. She went to the park earlier. I’m sat in a couple of meetings where I may be called upon - hoping for a gap to open up so I can run them round.

There is no quiet part of the house there is a drill in their back garden and a wood chipper on the driveway. If it was just one or the other I would not be so pissed off.

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Seeline · 18/07/2024 12:39

If you have a child at home with you young enough to nap, I would not assume that you were working from home. That is far more unreasonable to me!

But no, my neighbours have all sorts going on during the day and nobody mentions anything. Jet washers, car mechanics, building works, hedge trimmers, lawn mowers etc. It's just part of living near other people.

Benjilassi · 18/07/2024 12:39

My immediate neighbours and even one that backs onto my property (and very near to my garden office) are always courteous and inform me if they are doing noisy work. With immediate neighbours I can then offer to move my car if their work people need better access.

I also inform them as a matter of courtesy. We like each other, have to live along each other and know that advance warning allows people to make alternative plans.

For me, just knowing the duration of the noise helps me not lose my mind.

Thetwix · 18/07/2024 12:38

I have no idea what my neighbours do for work, where they work or what hours they keep. I don’t even know the names of most of them, it’s a keep yourself to yourself kind of street. I would notify them of anything really major (house extension for example) but typical garden maintenance noise for a few hours in the middle of a weekday I wouldn’t notify or expect to be notified of. Nothing to do with decency, I just don’t think it’s a big deal.

I once left the house for a few hours and on my return discovered a broadband company had dug a large trench outside my house, preventing me from accessing my house. There were then several days of digging, machinery noise and vibration. They certainly didn’t notify me in advance! (And it turned out it was long planned work.)

Stuff happens, it’s not that hard to cope with a bit of noise.

arethereanyleftatall · 18/07/2024 12:37

Yanbu. It's just manners to do so.

nonumbersinthisname · 18/07/2024 12:37

YANBU. My neighbour started demolishing outbuildings yesterday, warmest day of the year and my windows are open in my office overlooking the garden. No notice whatsoever. thank heavens for noise cancelling headphones.

I am also of the opinion that it is common courtesy to inform your neighbours before starting loud and/or dusty activity that will impact them. It allows them to plan accordingly (eg work elsewhere, not hang washing out etc). Plus you can’t underestimate the impact mentally - it makes a huge difference to know in advance and know how long it’s going to last, versus hearing the equipment roll up at 7am and the crashes and bangs and thinking WTF is going on?!

Our neighbour has no interest in having good neighbourly relations so we just have to suck it up. Wanker.

Kinshipug · 18/07/2024 12:36

Pouche · 18/07/2024 12:32

Okay but we have a ground drill and wood chipper vibrating our house. Not a noise my child has ever heard before. This is not just ambient screeching of neighbourhood kids (which doesn’t bother us in the slightest).

Can't they just go for a nap in the pushchair or something?
You're making a mountain out of a molehill. It's only been a couple of hours of noise.

Notverygruntled · 18/07/2024 12:36

I think it's courteous to let neighbours know of any potential disruption regardless of whether or not you WFH. Surely just good manners and shows consideration for others.

soupmaker · 18/07/2024 12:36

@Pouche my then not even 1 year old napped for over 3 hours the day we had three trees taken down in our garden, with chainsaw and wood chipper noise as background. I was amazed! Good luck for today's nap.

loudbatperson · 18/07/2024 12:36

Could the childminder not take your child to your parent's house now? That's the map disturbance sorted.

As for WFH, I would just move to the quietest part of the house and offer my apologies on calls. It would have been nice to have a heads up, but not everyone will do you need a contingency plan.

I don't have the choice to move to the office when it's noisy at home, as they closed both London offices. Being London every scrap of land is being built on, including 2 corner plots on my road (I am one house away from one and over the road from the other). I have just had to learn to adapt and move around the house depending on noise. I have also invested in a really good headset that drowns out the noise and has great non speech noise suppression for the microphone.

Dragonsandcats · 18/07/2024 12:36

Maybe they didn’t expect the noise to be as loud or disruptive as it is. I’d inform neighbours of big work but I don’t think I’d have thought of this in the same way.

Missingpotatocroquettes · 18/07/2024 12:35

Nanny0gg · 18/07/2024 12:34

Jesus! It's not 'pre-booking' it's warning

Why are people so selfish??

I don't think it's selfish when my neighbours get work done without warning me 🤷🏻‍♀️

Nanny0gg · 18/07/2024 12:34

Missingpotatocroquettes · 18/07/2024 12:22

You can't really expect your neighbours to pre-book all their noise in with you. They're not responsible for you wfh.

Jesus! It's not 'pre-booking' it's warning

Why are people so selfish??

betterangels · 18/07/2024 12:34

That said the post where you said screaming kids is different. From someone without kids, kids screeching goes right through me and fucks me off. That noise is just a disruptive as the noise you are experiencing so I’d say don’t pick and chose what noises are disruptive.

Absolutely agree with this. Ditto: relentlessly barking dogs. I hate it. Headphones are a lifesaver, or I'd lose my mind.

TheKeatingFive · 18/07/2024 12:33

It would be nice, but what are you going to do if it doesn't happen? 🤷‍♀️

Ask them if it's continuing tomorrow and make your plans from there.

Nanny0gg · 18/07/2024 12:33

NewDay00 · 18/07/2024 12:18

It's a house before it's an office block.

I WFH and know its the risk I run. Have had workers outside and loud, not their problem I am sat here working.

So if she was a SAHM should they have warned her?

Yes! Whatever the reason, it's common courtesy

Pouche · 18/07/2024 12:32

Peonies12 · 18/07/2024 12:30

Children need to learn to sleep through noise! Mine naps in nursery with kids playing around them.

Okay but we have a ground drill and wood chipper vibrating our house. Not a noise my child has ever heard before. This is not just ambient screeching of neighbourhood kids (which doesn’t bother us in the slightest).

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Nanny0gg · 18/07/2024 12:32

Missingpotatocroquettes · 18/07/2024 12:15

Why? Knowing about the noise before hand won't make it any quieter

But she could have made alternative plans to not be there!

It always used to be the thing to give a heads-up and it would take moments

I don't understand why people are so thoughtless these days

soupmaker · 18/07/2024 12:31

Pouche · 18/07/2024 12:24

All of a sudden mumsnetters are very easy going and flexible 😂

That's what I was thinking too OP!

We live in a 4 block terrace. DH works shifts so is often sleeping during the day. Our lovely neighbour at the other end of the block is having a new patio put down, the noise this morning has been immense. She let us know it was going to be happening but just not exactly when it would be noisy. If I was working from home I'd have just put headphones on. At least your childminder can take your wee one out and about. A wee note through the door would have been nice.

EG94 · 18/07/2024 12:31

I don’t think there’s question of have to or unreasonable not to. It’s down to individuals and I personally would. That said the post where you said screaming kids is different. From someone without kids, kids screeching goes right through me and fucks me off. That noise is just a disruptive as the noise you are experiencing so I’d say don’t pick and chose what noises are disruptive. We all have different tolerances and morals.