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To be annoyed that I get glared at for having a blue badge

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Sparklebelle1024 · 17/07/2024 19:34

I try not to let it bother me but I’m young ( 35) and I have a blue badge because I have a few health problems which put me into the category of disabled and entitle me to pip and a blue badge. I do work (only part time as that’s a struggle but I do it for my own mental health but I think even that might have to go soon but I’m trying to last as long as I can) and almost every time I pull my car into the disabled spaces I get dirty looks and “badge checked” by the older generation and it’s ALWAYS older people !! It’s like younger folk can’t have disabilities!! Yet I can literally go from being okayish one day to hospitalised the next (I have a very understanding manager) and my car is a lifeline. I do try to brush it off but today I had a run in with an older man and he asked to see the photo on my badge to prove it was mine, I obviously told him he’s not entitled to that information and it’s not an elderly badge it’s a disabled badge and I cried when I was driving home.
it’s not fair…. I’m sick of being judged because I’m not “old” and don’t “look disabled” whatever that should look like. I know it shouldn’t bother me but it really genuinely does. So AIBU to be annoyed at being judged by the older generation because I use a badge I’m legally entitled to??

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LadyKenya · 18/07/2024 09:47

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 08:50

Surely it’s obvious that the culprits here are the people who steal blue badges or abuse ones belonging to family and friends?

These people are suspicious because they have seen real misuse in the past. It must be upsetting if they think they can’t get the space they need because someone is in it without the right to be.

Maybe you can only give the benefit of the doubt so many times before you get fed up.

Edited

Wrong. The culprits, as you put it, are the ones who take it upon themselves to question, and make an outing, unpleasant, for the disabled person just trying to go about their business. Why do you think that is okay?

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 09:35

Elleherd · 18/07/2024 09:32

No I just see cowards, bullies, impatience, entitlement, and excuses.
I'm sorry your brother has to deal with being paraplegic but there isn't a hierarchy of disability for parking rights as he will know.
I'm not paraplegic but also in a wheelchair with a number of issues and like your brother simply can't leave my vehicle without a hatched space, and have to either queue or go home if I can't park, and may 'need' the space your brother or the OP or any other disabled person may be using.

My needs give me absolutely no right whatsoever to ask another disabled person with a blue badge displayed."if they are entitled to be there" because I need their space.
It makes no difference if they are fully quadriplegic, bagged and wired, or look young and without viable disability, or anywhere in-between. There is no entitlement to harass other people.

What are you on about? Clearly he has priority over someone who doesn’t have a blue badge, which is what I was talking about!

And there is no harassing. It’s a simple question “do you have a badge for that space?”

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 09:34

Londontown12 · 18/07/2024 09:29

Yes i understand this !
But would I have parked there if I didn’t have a badge in front of a traffic warden 🤣

Well, he’s the traffic warden. No doubt he does his job using his experience of how people behave. He’s probably also on some sort of performance metric that says he has to check all occupied disabled spaces.

Elleherd · 18/07/2024 09:32

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 09:14

That analogy doesn’t work because other shoppers don’t care if the shop is being defrauded. The shop itself does check.

If my paraplegic brother can’t park in a space that allows him to get his chair out, he might ask the space-user if they are entitled to be there because he needs the space himself. Can’t you see the difference?

No I just see cowards, bullies, impatience, entitlement, and excuses.
I'm sorry your brother has to deal with being paraplegic but there isn't a hierarchy of disability for parking rights as he will know.
I'm not paraplegic but also in a wheelchair with a number of issues and like your brother simply can't leave my vehicle without a hatched space, and have to either queue or go home if I can't park, and may 'need' the space your brother or the OP or any other disabled person may be using.

My needs give me absolutely no right whatsoever to ask another disabled person with a blue badge displayed."if they are entitled to be there" because I need their space.
It makes no difference if they are fully quadriplegic, bagged and wired, or look young and without viable disability, or anywhere in-between. There is no entitlement to harass other people.

sentfrmmyiphone · 18/07/2024 09:29

I get glared at all the time.. i simply do not care! i have mobility issues and bowel/bladder problems which means i sometimes need to make a quick exit from the car which i need the car door open fully to do so and close to facilities if needed.

They would not hae given me the badge if when i applied they didn't think it necessary.

Londontown12 · 18/07/2024 09:29

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 09:27

Not sure what the problem is. It’s literally a traffic warden’s job to check that parked cars have the right permits. He didn’t accuse or approach you.

Yes i understand this !
But would I have parked there if I didn’t have a badge in front of a traffic warden 🤣

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 09:27

Londontown12 · 18/07/2024 09:24

It’s harassment full stop !
And it’s judgemental!
lots of people do it !
I have a blue badge I look glamorous and I had a traffic warden hover over me whilst parking and his co worker ready to pounce !! When I’d parked I displayed my blue badge !
They then both left but whilst checking me out a guy parked on double yellow lines !!!
It’s very rude ! To be judged on what u look like or your age !

Not sure what the problem is. It’s literally a traffic warden’s job to check that parked cars have the right permits. He didn’t accuse or approach you.

Londontown12 · 18/07/2024 09:24

It’s harassment full stop !
And it’s judgemental!
lots of people do it !
I have a blue badge I look glamorous and I had a traffic warden hover over me whilst parking and his co worker ready to pounce !! When I’d parked I displayed my blue badge !
They then both left but whilst checking me out a guy parked on double yellow lines !!!
It’s very rude ! To be judged on what u look like or your age !

LadyKenya · 18/07/2024 09:20

PenguinCounter · 18/07/2024 00:50

Why does it annoy you? Do people who know you doubt the extent of your illness or something?

My colleague is 25 and has a blue badge because of a heart condition. She looks like any other healthy 25 year old. We've been questioned before and she's just smiled and said "yes, it's my blue badge. I have a heart condition". That's it. Conversation over. Sometimes people have gone to my car to look at the badge as we've continued walking but not in an aggressive or confrontational way. They just seem to want to satisfy themselves that she's telling the truth. It doesn't bother her. It wouldn't bother me if it was mine.

Good for you, and your colleague. You obviously do realise, I presume, that we are all different? Your colleague is well within her rights to tell her private medical business to complete strangers, and others are well within their rights to ignore nosey, entitled people.

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 09:17

LadyKenya · 18/07/2024 09:15

I do not understand why people would park in BB spaces either, without a badge. I also do not understand why people think that they can confront others either. It is not their place, and could actually be dangerous. Some people have very short fuses. I am disabled, and would never dream of taking someone to task, over a BB space.

So you’d just sit in your car unable to get out if you saw someone exit a car in a BB space and stride off?

LadyKenya · 18/07/2024 09:15

planAplanB · 18/07/2024 00:16

Surely people are checking that the car owner has a BB in order to protect the disabled spaces from being used by able bodied people. I do not understand why people think they can used disability spaces when they are not disabled just because they think they'll 'only be a minute'.

I do not understand why people would park in BB spaces either, without a badge. I also do not understand why people think that they can confront others either. It is not their place, and could actually be dangerous. Some people have very short fuses. I am disabled, and would never dream of taking someone to task, over a BB space.

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 09:14

Elleherd · 18/07/2024 09:11

No, the culprits are the people who think they have the right to harass disabled people using their blue badges so they can park/get out of their vehicle. It is that simple.

Do people demand to check another shoppers credit card isn't stolen or belongs to someone else and is being misused because their appearance doesn't match up to what they're spending/buying?

Or demand to check others receipts against their shopping to see if they've genuinely paid for it all because they don't look like they genuinely have?

We all know credit card fraud and shoplifting are huge, so surely shoppers 'can only give the benefit of the doubt so many times before they get fed up.'

They just use excuses as cover to target those they feel safe to bully.

That analogy doesn’t work because other shoppers don’t care if the shop is being defrauded. The shop itself does check.

If my paraplegic brother can’t park in a space that allows him to get his chair out, he might ask the space-user if they are entitled to be there because he needs the space himself. Can’t you see the difference?

Elleherd · 18/07/2024 09:11

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 08:50

Surely it’s obvious that the culprits here are the people who steal blue badges or abuse ones belonging to family and friends?

These people are suspicious because they have seen real misuse in the past. It must be upsetting if they think they can’t get the space they need because someone is in it without the right to be.

Maybe you can only give the benefit of the doubt so many times before you get fed up.

Edited

No, the culprits are the people who think they have the right to harass disabled people using their blue badges so they can park/get out of their vehicle. It is that simple.

Do people demand to check another shoppers credit card isn't stolen or belongs to someone else and is being misused because their appearance doesn't match up to what they're spending/buying?

Or demand to check others receipts against their shopping to see if they've genuinely paid for it all because they don't look like they genuinely have?

We all know credit card fraud and shoplifting are huge, so surely shoppers 'can only give the benefit of the doubt so many times before they get fed up.'

They just use excuses as cover to target those they feel safe to bully.

Ineedaholidayagain · 18/07/2024 09:10

My son is a wheelchair user and so he has a blue badge so we can can get him in and out of the car. Also in a wheelchair he's lower down and so it's dangerous in a car park as he can't be seen.
We look like a family with teens in a normal estate car. If we are being glared at when we park DH and I jump out of the car (one to grab the chair from the boot, the other to sort out the parking charge) and wait to see if we get remarks as it happens so often until DS transfers to his chair.
Ds has a great attitude about it and doesn't pull any verbal punches. He's a lifetime of being stared at and his personality is to take it on the chin.

LadyKenya · 18/07/2024 09:10

Speckson · 18/07/2024 00:13

Yes, because the challenger has the courage to stand up and challenge someone they believe may be a criminal by abusing the Blue Badge scheme. The challenger thinks they are standing up for the disabled.
Surely it would be easy nowadays to provide disabled people with a swipe card to validate parking in disabled spaces to eliminate fraud and the unpleasantness of being doubted.

"May be a criminal" I have seen it all now!

CassandraWebb · 18/07/2024 08:50

AnneElliott · 18/07/2024 08:44

I'm making the point @CassandraWebb that it's not my badge and it doesn't have to be. Nosy busy bodies normally back right off if they're challenged.

So just say that. You don't need to tell people to look at your friend's legs. That's unnecessary

TimeandMotion · 18/07/2024 08:50

Surely it’s obvious that the culprits here are the people who steal blue badges or abuse ones belonging to family and friends?

These people are suspicious because they have seen real misuse in the past. It must be upsetting if they think they can’t get the space they need because someone is in it without the right to be.

Maybe you can only give the benefit of the doubt so many times before you get fed up.

K0OLA1D · 18/07/2024 08:46

I've had a BB since my early 20s. I'm 34 now and still get looks and scoffs. It pisses DP off more than me.

I have in the past just ignored them. Completely blanked them when i heard them discuss with the person they were with ans then ask if it's mine.

It's no one else's business

willowtolive · 18/07/2024 08:46

Sunshineafterthehail · 17/07/2024 19:41

Since yous are quite young may I suggest you roll back to even younger next time? Do that teen thing where they rummage in a pocket then pull out a hand with a middle finger up? Then smile and walk away...
Def make you feel better imo.

Ha love that

AnneElliott · 18/07/2024 08:44

I'm making the point @CassandraWebb that it's not my badge and it doesn't have to be. Nosy busy bodies normally back right off if they're challenged.

CassandraWebb · 18/07/2024 08:43

AnneElliott · 18/07/2024 08:21

Ignore them op - I know it's easier said than done. I get this too when I take my friend out (it's her BB). Often when I jump out of the car I'm challenged so I tell them to go round the passenger side and have a look at my friends legs. Often they can't get away quick enough. One woman even stood in the disabled space to try and stop us parking there!

I know you mean well, but saying things like that kist reinforces the idea that real disabilities are visible

Mine is rarely obvious to the untrained eye, but profoundly disabling. (No pain, just the more I use my muscles the weaker I get)

Conkersinautumn · 18/07/2024 08:39

It is a weird feeling, but do glare right back, or raise the eyebrows or wave. My friend has used a wheelchair since her late 20s. We are both nearly 50 and I do notice the looks we get when I'm out with her. She's now in an electric wheelchair that comes out on ramp from a van, when it was the folding chair I'd be challenged before or during taking it round to her side of the car "those spaces aren't for injuries you know" . But we've still had weird comments with the electric chair (how comfy, saves walking eh? Etc). She has a range of responses, most of them quite blunt along the lines of "I'd give anything to get to old actually" being a very powerful one as her main conditions are life limiting. People (not just the elderly but I suppose there are more elderly people who have a condition requiring better access can be so caught up in a fixed view of the world and one view is that somw people used blue badge spaces needlessly.

TomeTome · 18/07/2024 08:37

I would imagine it’s bullies who do this. We haven’t experienced the bb confrontations, but I have seen people cross the road to be antagonistic to my (adult) disabled child. I’ve had people come from different parts of a shop to “correct” him. It’s not any age or sex that does this but a small subset of very viciously unkind people.

on the flip side there are people who are staggeringly kind and helpful in a way that is so touching.

Calphurnia6 · 18/07/2024 08:32

The people who think that these 'challengers' are doing some sort of public service need to broaden their perspective.

It is harassment. Imagine having to deal with, or deal with the fear of, a random and possibly hostile stranger asking for your personal medical details everytime you step out of your car. Disabled people, including those with non-visible disabilities, deserve to be treated with respect and as individuals. They are entitled to privacy. You are not entitled to their medical information.

If, for arguments sake, the 'challenger' did encounter someone misusing the badge then it's naive (arrogant?) of them to think that their interaction will prevent misuse ongoing. If they're genuinely doing it in the public interest (and not just for the thrill) they would be better reporting it through the appropriate channels so the council can deal with it.

AnneElliott · 18/07/2024 08:21

Ignore them op - I know it's easier said than done. I get this too when I take my friend out (it's her BB). Often when I jump out of the car I'm challenged so I tell them to go round the passenger side and have a look at my friends legs. Often they can't get away quick enough. One woman even stood in the disabled space to try and stop us parking there!