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CleanCityBird · 17/07/2024 18:56

Hi everyone,
ive 2 students staying with me, both 15 from France. They’re doing a 3 week language course.
Cleaning their room I found old stale sandwiches, partially rotted, yogurts, pastries. The thing is, apart from the yogurt. This isn’t the food I’ve prepared for them.Its someone else’s.
they’ve been here 2 weeks now, & all in all, they’re great kids. Up & out in the morning ( one has said she’s sick 2 out of 10days tho). They’re polite, sweet Girls.

Im annoyed that they left food to rot, it can cause all sort of problems. Im annoyed they have someone else’s food, and im annoyed because it’s disrespectful to my home.
I’ve cut them some slack because they are so young, taking more of a caring role, doing their laundry, cleaning their bathroom.
they’ll be home around 9ish tonight & I have to have a word with them.
i don’t want to upset them but I do want to get the message across that it’s not on.
I’m so annoyed I’m afraid I will over react with them. Any guidance from seasoned student host Mums might have would be greatly appreciated! ❤️

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eggplant16 · 22/07/2024 14:23

HucklefinBerry · 20/07/2024 20:40

@eggplant16

You are a liar, trying to backtrack now that you've been rightly piled on.
Are you this inflammatory irl?

Sorry? I never said those things?

HucklefinBerry · 20/07/2024 20:40

@eggplant16

You are a liar, trying to backtrack now that you've been rightly piled on.
Are you this inflammatory irl?

HS1990 · 20/07/2024 09:59

You could just nicely ask if they would prefer different things in their packed lunch.

Food waste in bedroom is a flat no for me because of damn fruit flies! In this heat?? Its a recipe for disaster. All food waste goes in an outside bin.

DilemmaDelilah · 20/07/2024 09:56

I used to have Japanese students (had them for 6 years) and found them to be unfailingly polite, they ate everything they were given (but I only have small portions of proper home cooked food and then offered seconds) and kept their room tidy. The only issue I had was with the amount of time they spent in the bathroom, as we only had one bathroom at the time. I have heard that European and American students are less likely to be polite, more likely to be entitled etc. that is a generalisation but is what put me off.

I think it is important to set out house rules or expectations at the beginning of their stay - obviously it is a little late for you to do that now, but I think you should tell them that you are going to change their sheets/clean their room tomorrow and ask them to make sure that all rubbish is in the bin, laundry is in a pile/in the laundry bin ready for you to take away, and all personal belongings put away beforehand to enable you to do that. Then you can point out that if they put their rubbish in their bin and put the bin outside their room every day/when it is full, and same with their laundry, you can deal with it as you go.

eggplant16 · 20/07/2024 08:55

PasteldeNata78 · 19/07/2024 21:54

Yes.
Have you? Why do you ask?

Yes I have, I just don't care about the squabbles on here.

Making packed lunches was a waste of time, they binned them. If young people are in my home, I think its reasonable to do a quick clean and check of the rooms.

PasteldeNata78 · 19/07/2024 21:54

eggplant16 · 19/07/2024 21:23

Have you ever hosted foreign students ?

Yes.
Have you? Why do you ask?

eggplant16 · 19/07/2024 21:23

PasteldeNata78 · 19/07/2024 09:07

@lemonmeringueno3 exactly

@CleanCityBird nobody has invented things you didn't say. It's right there in the OP. You literally said.

"I'm annoyed that they left food to rot, it can cause all sort of problems. Im annoyed they have someone else’s food, and im annoyed because it’s disrespectful to my home. "

Maybe you should use proper punctuation if that wasn't your intention but since you complained about them not eating your fabulous food and generally being very huffy. I'll wager your initial post was correct.

You are a liar, trying to backtrack now that you've been rightly piled on.

I will repeat once again, since you're hard of reading and writing.

Rotting food = your concern. Rude. Causes issues. Must be stopped.
Other food = not your concern. Their right. Not disrespect. Keep your beak out.

Simples.

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Have you ever hosted foreign students ?

Lunde · 19/07/2024 21:02

I think sometimes a standard pack lunch everyday is constricting when you are in a foreign country - sometimes teens want to try other things.

I remember our exchange student telling us not to bother with the pack lunch one day as he and some friends were going out at lunchtime to try the famous Swedish "doner kebab and fries" pizza. He seemed worried that I would be offended whereas I was fine - one less job to do.

Psychoticbreak · 19/07/2024 20:31

CleanCityBird · 18/07/2024 19:49

What is this ‘invading Privacy’ rubbish?
They are 14 and 15. It’s not their home bedroom.
it’s a room in my house that they are renting & I have a responsibility to keep it clean, and for it NOT to turn into a fly infested stink pit.
id guarantee if I didn’t go in and clean their room you would post I was neglecting them. Can’t win with some people.

I cannot believe you think going into their rooms is somthing you should do.

I have two spanish students. I leave their rooms alone as they are as entitled to their privacy as my own teen kids. It is,in my case, for a month. I wil deal with the room then. I am here to provide food and shelter not be in ther rooms.

SummerDays2020 · 19/07/2024 18:59

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 19/07/2024 10:11

It really has lost its meaning. My aunt worked with children and offered respite for short periods in her home. She was paid and I guarantee you nothing went to waste. They didn't have secret stashes of rotten food around the house or other people's food that's nasty. The girls sound greedy and entitled they are struggling to eat it all. Who leaves rotten food around their living space unless their nasty.

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How are they greedy when they are telling the OP she is giving them too much food? They are asking her to stop giving them all her 'fabulous' food. My guess is they're not keen on the food but are trying to be polite and asking her to give them less. Maybe other teens aren't keen on the food either and hence trying to palm it off on each other!! It's probably very different food than they are used to. Compare UK school meals to French school meals!

PasteldeNata78 · 19/07/2024 11:55

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 19/07/2024 10:11

It really has lost its meaning. My aunt worked with children and offered respite for short periods in her home. She was paid and I guarantee you nothing went to waste. They didn't have secret stashes of rotten food around the house or other people's food that's nasty. The girls sound greedy and entitled they are struggling to eat it all. Who leaves rotten food around their living space unless their nasty.

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Teddybearpicniccelebration · 19/07/2024 10:11

BlueBirdBell · 19/07/2024 03:02

Do you know anything about billeting? The op is being paid to provide board including meals. She’s not doing it for free. If the children prefer each other’s lunches, nothing is being wasted. So yes, it is controlling of the op.

It really has lost its meaning. My aunt worked with children and offered respite for short periods in her home. She was paid and I guarantee you nothing went to waste. They didn't have secret stashes of rotten food around the house or other people's food that's nasty. The girls sound greedy and entitled they are struggling to eat it all. Who leaves rotten food around their living space unless their nasty.

PasteldeNata78 · 19/07/2024 09:54

CeruleanDive · 19/07/2024 09:50

The gentle name of this site, Mumsnet, infers this is a supportive community. It’s the complete opposite and you’re contributing to it.

On the irony. Mumsnet has talk guidelines. You have had a comment removed for breaking them. On a thread where everyone else managed to converse without needing a moderator to intervene. That's your contribution.

(Not this thread, before you start a full caps rebuttal.)

ETA: Oops! Also on this thread. Perhaps refresh your understanding of the Talk Guidelines

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The irony! Mums are supposed to give you a right telling off if you do something wrong. 'Gentle' wtf

CeruleanDive · 19/07/2024 09:50

The gentle name of this site, Mumsnet, infers this is a supportive community. It’s the complete opposite and you’re contributing to it.

On the irony. Mumsnet has talk guidelines. You have had a comment removed for breaking them. On a thread where everyone else managed to converse without needing a moderator to intervene. That's your contribution.

(Not this thread, before you start a full caps rebuttal.)

ETA: Oops! Also on this thread. Perhaps refresh your understanding of the Talk Guidelines

NervousSubject · 19/07/2024 09:21

I would talk to whoever their leader/student liaison is, about both the swapped food and norms for room cleaning. My SIL hosted summer language students for about 20 years, and is still in touch with some of them, years on, and I’m pretty sure they had to bring out their laundry for her to do, and she cleaned their room, changed bedlinen etc, weekly.

(For the last few years, though, she’s only accommodated the adult group leaders, who need less input — leaving aside homesickness, communication about food, cleaning etc , she had to deal with 14/15 year olds getting drunk and, on one or two occasions, being caught shoplifting. It got a bit much.)

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 19/07/2024 09:14

Edited because 👺 doesn’t understand accents.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 19/07/2024 09:12

‘Si vous voudriez manger, mangez dans la cuisine ou la salle à manger, s’il vous plaît’. Nous ne voudrions pas encourager les insectes ou les souris!’

Janieforever · 19/07/2024 09:12

What am I reading, telling folks they are an awful bunch for putting you right whilst you start a thread about these girls and calling them disrespectful

yes they shouldn’t leave food out , tell them that, but they can eat what the fuck they please.

PasteldeNata78 · 19/07/2024 09:07

CleanCityBird · 18/07/2024 23:55

Please stop inventing things I didn’t say.
I didn’t say having other people food is disrespectful to my home. I said, and it was a question - leaving rotting food is disrespectful to my home when they wouldn’t do it in their home. Again peopl putting words in my mouth.
ans if there were indications of an eating disorder that would be very serious. I certainly wouldn’t accuse anyone of that but if I saw serious signals that were the case as the adult in the room I would have to bring it up. Not with the child. Talk to the school and they probably have a guideline & policy on that.

@lemonmeringueno3 exactly

@CleanCityBird nobody has invented things you didn't say. It's right there in the OP. You literally said.

"I'm annoyed that they left food to rot, it can cause all sort of problems. Im annoyed they have someone else’s food, and im annoyed because it’s disrespectful to my home. "

Maybe you should use proper punctuation if that wasn't your intention but since you complained about them not eating your fabulous food and generally being very huffy. I'll wager your initial post was correct.

You are a liar, trying to backtrack now that you've been rightly piled on.

I will repeat once again, since you're hard of reading and writing.

Rotting food = your concern. Rude. Causes issues. Must be stopped.
Other food = not your concern. Their right. Not disrespect. Keep your beak out.

Simples.

SummerDays2020 · 19/07/2024 09:04

CleanCityBird · 19/07/2024 00:09

Unbelievable.
They come and live with us for 3 weeks as part of the family. To be treated as part of the family. It’s part of the experience. It’s not renting a room. They’re kids.

If they are part of the family should they not be cleaning their rooms? You wouldn't usually expect a 14 or 15yo's mum to go in their room to clean. Just a thought.

BlueBirdBell · 19/07/2024 05:31

lemonmeringueno3 · 19/07/2024 03:31

Presumably you've spoken to them about this by now. What did they say?

I personally feel that you should not be going into their bedroom while they are staying with you unless you've given advance notice and asked permission. If you are checking under their beds, that feels like an unusually thorough clean.

I have hosted students too and I did not go into their rooms without asking first. I would ask if they had laundry, or to bring out cups/glasses. I would offer to change the beds, or to give them fresh bedding. I would offer to clean their room once each week, or ask whether they'd prefer to do it themselves and then leave the vacuum cleaner and cleaning items by the door.

I don't know why they have food. It is rather odd because they haven't bought it or eaten it. If it belongs to another student, who doesn't want it, why didn't that student just put it in the bin? Presumably you have asked them by now. I would ask without judgment. Who does this belong to? Please put food waste in this bin.

You are saying now that you are just concerned about them, but that isn't the tone of your title or op. Initially your tone was cross, with talk of them disrespecting you. I think you would have got different replies if you'd started with 'I am worried about these children' instead of 'these children are disrespecting me.'

My mother was a homestay mum, I’ve been a student in homestays and I’ve coordinated them. Going into the rooms is fine. It’s part of your duties in fact. My mother would tidy the rooms, make the beds - basically everything. And provide 2-3 meals per day.

lemonmeringueno3 · 19/07/2024 03:40

"Im annoyed that they left food to rot, it can cause all sort of problems. Im annoyed they have someone else’s food, and im annoyed because it’s disrespectful to my home."

I think these sorts of comments at the beginning of the thread are what prompted the critical replies.

Even though you are now saying that you are just curious about where the food came from, and concerned about eating disorders, and need to know if they don't like your food, you were initially annoyed and felt disrespected. That is an odd response to the situation I think, and the reason you've collected some harsh replies.

lemonmeringueno3 · 19/07/2024 03:31

Presumably you've spoken to them about this by now. What did they say?

I personally feel that you should not be going into their bedroom while they are staying with you unless you've given advance notice and asked permission. If you are checking under their beds, that feels like an unusually thorough clean.

I have hosted students too and I did not go into their rooms without asking first. I would ask if they had laundry, or to bring out cups/glasses. I would offer to change the beds, or to give them fresh bedding. I would offer to clean their room once each week, or ask whether they'd prefer to do it themselves and then leave the vacuum cleaner and cleaning items by the door.

I don't know why they have food. It is rather odd because they haven't bought it or eaten it. If it belongs to another student, who doesn't want it, why didn't that student just put it in the bin? Presumably you have asked them by now. I would ask without judgment. Who does this belong to? Please put food waste in this bin.

You are saying now that you are just concerned about them, but that isn't the tone of your title or op. Initially your tone was cross, with talk of them disrespecting you. I think you would have got different replies if you'd started with 'I am worried about these children' instead of 'these children are disrespecting me.'

BlueBirdBell · 19/07/2024 03:04

CleanCityBird · 19/07/2024 00:09

Unbelievable.
They come and live with us for 3 weeks as part of the family. To be treated as part of the family. It’s part of the experience. It’s not renting a room. They’re kids.

You’re called a “homestay mum” in my country. It really is essentially just boarding but with a more family feel. In the ultimate end, you’re getting paid to provide this service.

BlueBirdBell · 19/07/2024 03:02

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 18/07/2024 16:05

It's not controlling this word is losing its meaning and it is her business because it coming out of her pocket not yours. The op is going out and buying food that she thought they would like. Instead of communicating with the op what they would like to eat they would rather be secret squirrel's and hide food in their room to eat. They are 15 year old girls the immaturity is there and she should speak to them about it. It's all part of life's lessons to learn on how not to take the piss.

Do you know anything about billeting? The op is being paid to provide board including meals. She’s not doing it for free. If the children prefer each other’s lunches, nothing is being wasted. So yes, it is controlling of the op.

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