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Royal Children - Time for State school?

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microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:45

Should the Royal Family children be educated in state schools? Why do they get to attend private schools on taxpayers money? Is this something the Labour government could push for?

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cupcaske123 · 18/07/2024 18:33

Sharptonguedwoman · 18/07/2024 18:28

The point is, he was elected. People make strange choices.

No the point is, he can be voted out.

Sharptonguedwoman · 18/07/2024 18:28

cardibach · 18/07/2024 18:21

You know if someone like Trump were born eldest child of the monarch we’d be stuck with him, yes? It’s 8n,y chance we don’t have Andrew.

The point is, he was elected. People make strange choices.

moaningmyrtle4 · 18/07/2024 18:25

The sovereign grant only pays for official duties. NOT the kids’ schooling. They make money off land and other investments etc so no skin of my back or any other taxpayer.

Symposium123 · 18/07/2024 18:25

YABU. It’s none of your business what they choose to spend their money on.

Getonwitit · 18/07/2024 18:21

PoliteCritic · 17/07/2024 17:49

Paul McCartneys children went to state school when he was even more famous than now.
And given the low educational attainment of most members of the Royal family, it makes me laugh the argument that they need to be better educated than the average state school can provide.

Terrorists didn't want to kill his children.

cardibach · 18/07/2024 18:21

Sharptonguedwoman · 18/07/2024 10:42

With a president like Trump?

You know if someone like Trump were born eldest child of the monarch we’d be stuck with him, yes? It’s 8n,y chance we don’t have Andrew.

cardibach · 18/07/2024 18:18

Devonbabs · 18/07/2024 07:56

Plus many teachers are quite left wing so I likely to treat any royalty fairly. They’d probably spend most of their time trying to bring the kids down.

Oh fuck off. Many teachers are left wing because they see the actual effects of right wing policies. We are still professionals though. I hope you home school if you don’t think we can be trusted. And you wonder why teachers are leaving in droves.

mathanxiety · 18/07/2024 18:16

littleorchard45 · 18/07/2024 17:49

What - like Trump 🤣

There would be no need to dump parliamentary democracy and introduce a presidential system.

An elected head of state in a parliamentary democracy would have a role more like that of the President of Ireland.

cupcaske123 · 18/07/2024 17:52

littleorchard45 · 18/07/2024 17:49

What - like Trump 🤣

Yes just like Trump. 👌

coupdetonnerre · 18/07/2024 17:51

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littleorchard45 · 18/07/2024 17:49

cupcaske123 · 17/07/2024 15:52

What about a democratically elected head of state?

What - like Trump 🤣

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 18/07/2024 16:14

Sibilantseamstress · 18/07/2024 15:50

But it is Labour’s right to price as many commoners out of PE as possible.

😏

I mean, I don't agree with the policy. But at least it is the government's right to set taxes on things in general, for everyone. By that logic we might as well set the tax to zero so even more people can afford it. Or abolish altogether. What you can't do is say these types of schools are fine and then forbid three particular kids from going to them.

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 15:55

LiterallyOnFire · 18/07/2024 10:50

Apparently the Marquess of Milford Haven is the last surviving Anglo-Saxon peer.

I thought that title was held by the Mountbattens (Battenberg) which was a cadet/morganatic line of a German royal family. Hessian possibly? The Battenberg were all descendants of Julia, the morganatic wife. German, anyway.

Earl Mountbatten, I think.

Sibilantseamstress · 18/07/2024 15:50

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 17/07/2024 23:07

Again, though, this conversation is mad. The kids don't belong to the state. It could be done, sure. But it's not our decision and it's definitely not Kier Starmer's decision.

But it is Labour’s right to price as many commoners out of PE as possible.

😏

BMW6 · 18/07/2024 15:41

The thing is OP, even if you abolished all Public Schools wealthy people, including our RF, would simply hire tutors and educate at home!

You'd have to then make it a criminal offence for children to receive any education outside a State school..........congratulations, you're now a Tyrant!

Can't you see what a dumb idea you're positing?
Very Soviet.

LiterallyOnFire · 18/07/2024 10:50

Apparently the Marquess of Milford Haven is the last surviving Anglo-Saxon peer.

I thought that title was held by the Mountbattens (Battenberg) which was a cadet/morganatic line of a German royal family. Hessian possibly? The Battenberg were all descendants of Julia, the morganatic wife. German, anyway.

Sharptonguedwoman · 18/07/2024 10:42

Precipice · 17/07/2024 15:47

There shouldn't be "royal" children at all. The UK should become a democracy.

With a president like Trump?

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 10:27

LiterallyOnFire · 17/07/2024 18:01

The ancestor who was given the original land and riches and title from William the Conqueror worked very hard for that money - he risked his life and all his family’s security fighting to secure part of the country - he could have been killed or defeated. He could have helped cause the defeat of William - in those circumstances someone else’s family line would be holding all those assets now.

Those Duchies would have long been broken up, were it not for legal exemptions and all manner of special arrangements for the BRF.

Apparently the Marquess of Milford Haven is the last surviving Anglo-Saxon peer.
Land was constantly broken up and re-assembled. The lands that Henry IV held as Duke of Lancaster are not the same as now held by Charles III.

schoolfeeslave · 18/07/2024 08:04

You know they also have their own money? I have no problem with them paying for private school - how disruptive for a state school, they would end up taking money and resources from other children.

MPs on the other hand....

clarkkentsglasses · 18/07/2024 07:59

My DC play fixtures against Lambrook. The royals are lower down for security. There are many pupils who are the children of ogliarchs and such the like. Who are more likely a target for kidnapping.

You can walk in and out of the school, have match teas and move around freely to watch the match fixtures. Kate has often been on the side lines cheering on like the other parents.

You can spot the body guards, and the cars are also very noticeable.

I did overhear something the teacher said that made me laugh "children who are going home with parents here, children who are staying in school tonight for boarding here and if you're waiting for your driver stand here!"

The best school we play against is Elton Johns kids school, security there is pretty tight as it's already in the castle grounds, now thats a good celeb spot!

I've missed the point of the thread but the personal security wouldn't be a problem in a state school as long as the bullet proof cars can park and the bodyguards can freely move around.

Devonbabs · 18/07/2024 07:56

llamajohn · 18/07/2024 07:12

I don't think state schools have the financial capacity to have security string enough to protect high status children. They'd need to find extra staff, extra security measure, extra training. Staff would need to change the way they work, students would have to behave differently etc.

Plus many teachers are quite left wing so I likely to treat any royalty fairly. They’d probably spend most of their time trying to bring the kids down.

Devonbabs · 18/07/2024 07:54

JustAVeryWeirdWoman · 17/07/2024 19:38

I'm not sure why the royals need so much security tbh. I know they think they need a lot of security but in reality they are mostly inconsequential in British politics, so why would they be a target for anyone? When was the last time any "bad guys" cared about them? They're just expensive decorations. I would think the prime minister or even a regular MP are at higher risk of terrorism or violence.

Let's face it, their private schooling is mostly about them not wanting to mix with the plebs.

Because our king is Head of State. I’m sure there are plenty of bad guys who would love to take advantage of him or his close family not have security. Surely you can work this out yourself and you just don’t like royalty as a personal preference

llamajohn · 18/07/2024 07:12

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I don't think state schools have the financial capacity to have security string enough to protect high status children. They'd need to find extra staff, extra security measure, extra training. Staff would need to change the way they work, students would have to behave differently etc.

llamajohn · 18/07/2024 07:10

JustAVeryWeirdWoman · 17/07/2024 19:38

I'm not sure why the royals need so much security tbh. I know they think they need a lot of security but in reality they are mostly inconsequential in British politics, so why would they be a target for anyone? When was the last time any "bad guys" cared about them? They're just expensive decorations. I would think the prime minister or even a regular MP are at higher risk of terrorism or violence.

Let's face it, their private schooling is mostly about them not wanting to mix with the plebs.

You're incredibly naïve to think they don't need security. They are influential people and are a huge target.

There's videos if William and family alone having a bike ride in (possibly) Sandringham and some random man was following them taking photos and wouldn't leave them alone, William called his security guy.
That's on a normal private day when nobody knew they'd be there, imagine the loonies who could easily find them as public arrangements are known well in advance etc.

Yes, they're living in a safe country on the whole, but they are a genuine target and there are credible threats to their lives.

GoFigure235 · 17/07/2024 23:59

Whenwillitgetwarm · 17/07/2024 23:50

If they did go to a state school it would be in an area/postcode so expensive and upper class dominated that there wouldn’t be a working class or even middle class child around for miles.

Many people have strange ideas around private and state education. There are state schools with a more exclusive intake than many private schools. Selection by postcode i.e wealth. Not all state schools are the same, not all private schools either. However, it’s far easier to target only private schools for perceived unfairness.

Indeed. There are state schools and 'state' schools, as Tony Blair, Nick Clegg and David Cameron all found when educating their children in the state sector was politically expedient for them.

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