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Royal Children - Time for State school?

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microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:45

Should the Royal Family children be educated in state schools? Why do they get to attend private schools on taxpayers money? Is this something the Labour government could push for?

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LochKatrine · 18/07/2024 20:08

PoliteCritic · 18/07/2024 20:05

The line Royalists always say is that the royal weddings bring in masses of tourism and generate national income. Are you saying that is not the case and all their weddings and state occasions cost us, the taxpayers, lots of money?

Yes.

LochKatrine · 18/07/2024 20:07

cardibach · 18/07/2024 20:04

I don’t have a problem with them tbh.
However that is exactly what royalty means. Whether you like them or not they are entitled to the titles etc.

Not if you've left and want no part of it, and spend your life being critical. Anyway. I can't be doing with them. Nothing will stop that level of entitlement unless you stop people having silly titles and making money from them.

saoirse31 · 18/07/2024 20:07

No reason why they shouldnt have same school experience as most UK children have.

PoliteCritic · 18/07/2024 20:05

LochKatrine · 18/07/2024 20:03

Oh my god and I'd like a refund on that awful pair Harry and Meghan. That massive wedding etc then just grifting. Plus why are their children Prince and Princess when they live in California? Ludicrous.

The line Royalists always say is that the royal weddings bring in masses of tourism and generate national income. Are you saying that is not the case and all their weddings and state occasions cost us, the taxpayers, lots of money?

wordler · 18/07/2024 20:05

cardibach · 18/07/2024 19:13

Obviously. And that’s my point. They have it because of being royal. It stinks.

But that’s just how inheritance works - lots of other non royal people in the UK owe their current fortunes to some ancestor who made/fought for/worked for a big chunk of land and cash in the past.

The lucky ones have ancestors who managed the money well, increasing and protecting assets.

The less fortunate ones had ancestors who made bad choices and lost the family fortunes.

The current King and heir come by their fortune by a bizarre and complicated pathway of accidents of birth and arranged marriages.

But then so has everyone else.

Where do you draw the line on who is allowed to inherit by luck of the draw.

All inheritances are unearned - from Balmoral to someone’s parents semi detached in Coventry.

cardibach · 18/07/2024 20:04

Theunamedcat · 18/07/2024 20:04

Yes it is if your paying thousands a year for an education you want results

Sorry, that makes no sense.

cardibach · 18/07/2024 20:04

LochKatrine · 18/07/2024 20:03

Oh my god and I'd like a refund on that awful pair Harry and Meghan. That massive wedding etc then just grifting. Plus why are their children Prince and Princess when they live in California? Ludicrous.

I don’t have a problem with them tbh.
However that is exactly what royalty means. Whether you like them or not they are entitled to the titles etc.

Theunamedcat · 18/07/2024 20:04

cardibach · 18/07/2024 20:03

You think state education is the bottom?
Maybe we should do something about that, if true?

Yes it is if your paying thousands a year for an education you want results

LochKatrine · 18/07/2024 20:03

Buffs · 18/07/2024 19:47

Why stop at schools? Why should taxpayers be paying any part of their extravagant lifestyles? Prince Andrew living in his grace and favour royal 30 bedroom mansion, driving Bentleys and land rovers, his own personal security detail and riding everyday at his royal stables. That should be addressed for starters.
I’d like to vote for a republic please.

Oh my god and I'd like a refund on that awful pair Harry and Meghan. That massive wedding etc then just grifting. Plus why are their children Prince and Princess when they live in California? Ludicrous.

cardibach · 18/07/2024 20:03

croydon15 · 18/07/2024 20:00

Stupid idea it's not a race to the bottom of course royal children will be privately educated or educated at home with tutors which is probably very lonely for the children

You think state education is the bottom?
Maybe we should do something about that, if true?

BMW6 · 18/07/2024 20:01

DramaLlamaBangBang · 18/07/2024 19:51

A huge portion of their money also came from the dissolution of the Monasteries, then after that from colonialism, and then from squirreling money away in tax havens and negotiating favourable treatment on inheritance tax.

Of course - along with a lot of others including Politicians and Investors. The RF are certainly not unique in their ability to acquire wealth - especially since the Restoration.

The East India Company in particular made incredible profits (and caused untold misery) but they were Businessmen like Trump - but rather more successful. They passed on their wealth to their children just the same but I don't hear anyone decrying their inherited wealth.

croydon15 · 18/07/2024 20:00

Stupid idea it's not a race to the bottom of course royal children will be privately educated or educated at home with tutors which is probably very lonely for the children

LochKatrine · 18/07/2024 19:58

Precipice · 17/07/2024 15:47

There shouldn't be "royal" children at all. The UK should become a democracy.

I think you don't understand how the British political system works or what a Constitutional Monarchy is.

PoliteCritic · 18/07/2024 19:57

HowIrresponsible · 18/07/2024 19:46

😄

Bless. Some people really don't get it.

Bless some people are super patronising.
It is not clever and it is not a nice trait.

PoliteCritic · 18/07/2024 19:56

Gorgonemilezola · 18/07/2024 19:50

Republic have a vested interest in negging the rf as much as possible. They use weasel words like 'likely' an awful lot.

They use words like likely because so much of the information is not available. So they try and estimate the security cost, but the actual cost is hidden.
So Republic are being very honest in the use of their words. Unlike the Royal Family who pretend their cost is £1.50 per head. That is simply untrue as it leaves out many costs.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 18/07/2024 19:51

BMW6 · 18/07/2024 19:09

Last English king to die in battle was Richard III in 1485.

His crown (and everything that went with it) was taken by Henry Tudor (Henry VII) who had a very tenuous claim, but, to the Victor goes the Spoils.

A huge portion of their money also came from the dissolution of the Monasteries, then after that from colonialism, and then from squirreling money away in tax havens and negotiating favourable treatment on inheritance tax.

Gorgonemilezola · 18/07/2024 19:50

PoliteCritic · 18/07/2024 19:37

It costs far more than £1.50 a year. That £1.50 does not include the cost of security. Republic's own research shows the true annual cost of the monarchy is at least £345m annually.

Republic have a vested interest in negging the rf as much as possible. They use weasel words like 'likely' an awful lot.

Buffs · 18/07/2024 19:47

Why stop at schools? Why should taxpayers be paying any part of their extravagant lifestyles? Prince Andrew living in his grace and favour royal 30 bedroom mansion, driving Bentleys and land rovers, his own personal security detail and riding everyday at his royal stables. That should be addressed for starters.
I’d like to vote for a republic please.

HowIrresponsible · 18/07/2024 19:46

Precipice · 17/07/2024 15:47

There shouldn't be "royal" children at all. The UK should become a democracy.

😄

Bless. Some people really don't get it.

cupcaske123 · 18/07/2024 19:46

AbbeyGrange · 18/07/2024 19:41

But we have a Prime Minister who we vote in (or out) and they wield all the power just as a President would, the reigning Monarch doesn't have any power and is just a figurehead..

First the monarch comes to their position through accident of birth, they are above the law and can also disprove laws that may affect their personal wealth. It's anachronistic and their life is a soap opera. We're also paying for their lavish lifestyle in palaces and multiple homes alongside their family.

The President would get a wage, be voted in and do a job. They would hold the position for a few years, in the case of Ireland, seven. They would be subject to the same laws as everyone else and could lose their position if they flouted it.

AbbeyGrange · 18/07/2024 19:41

cupcaske123 · 18/07/2024 19:22

I'd rather we all had a vote on our president and were able to vote them out or follow due process to get rid off them.

But we have a Prime Minister who we vote in (or out) and they wield all the power just as a President would, the reigning Monarch doesn't have any power and is just a figurehead..

VickyPollard25 · 18/07/2024 19:40

microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:45

Should the Royal Family children be educated in state schools? Why do they get to attend private schools on taxpayers money? Is this something the Labour government could push for?

It would NEVER happen.

PoliteCritic · 18/07/2024 19:37

It costs far more than £1.50 a year. That £1.50 does not include the cost of security. Republic's own research shows the true annual cost of the monarchy is at least £345m annually.

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 19:34

mathanxiety · 18/07/2024 18:16

There would be no need to dump parliamentary democracy and introduce a presidential system.

An elected head of state in a parliamentary democracy would have a role more like that of the President of Ireland.

I.e. no particular purpose most of the time. The system we have works, it costs the taxpayer about £1.50 a year per head (security) and is self-perpetuating and subject to the rule of Parliament. The sovereign is above politics but intimately entwined in the parliamentary system and our legal system. Wrenching the sovereign out would be very difficult and not worth the trouble (as T Blair found when he wanted to abolish the role of Lord Chancellor - mind he made it more subject to political influence by making the LC be an MP and subject to the PM).

And they're fun. They add to the joy of life and provide a pageantry few other countries can boast.

cupcaske123 · 18/07/2024 19:22

Gorgonemilezola · 18/07/2024 19:18

How do you know this. We voted in Boris Johnson - who's to say what sort of clown we'd vote in as HOS. Probably a Love Island winner.

I'd rather we all had a vote on our president and were able to vote them out or follow due process to get rid off them.

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