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Royal Children - Time for State school?

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microplastic · 17/07/2024 15:45

Should the Royal Family children be educated in state schools? Why do they get to attend private schools on taxpayers money? Is this something the Labour government could push for?

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cupcaske123 · 18/07/2024 22:51

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 22:46

'Republic's' not biased at all. Where are their figures, and where does that £345M come from? If it's from the Crown Estate, that belongs to the sovereign, it does not belong to the taxpayer. It is loaned to the state at the start of every reign and reverts to the sovereign on the death of the previous monarch (the sovereign never dies).
I don't think you read anything I wrote. The Crown Estate (this is the sovereign's own property - see above) provides what is now known as the Sovereign Grant, which pays for all the RF does publicly and for the upkeep of places like Buckingham Palace (which is owned by the state, not the king, and is an office more than a residence). Everything else they have comes from their private fortunes (which are large but not enormous). It's the security that costs us individually £1.50 a year. Seems a bargain, much cheaper than M. Macron or Mr Biden.

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Charles is a billionaire.

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 22:46

PoliteCritic · 18/07/2024 19:37

It costs far more than £1.50 a year. That £1.50 does not include the cost of security. Republic's own research shows the true annual cost of the monarchy is at least £345m annually.

'Republic's' not biased at all. Where are their figures, and where does that £345M come from? If it's from the Crown Estate, that belongs to the sovereign, it does not belong to the taxpayer. It is loaned to the state at the start of every reign and reverts to the sovereign on the death of the previous monarch (the sovereign never dies).
I don't think you read anything I wrote. The Crown Estate (this is the sovereign's own property - see above) provides what is now known as the Sovereign Grant, which pays for all the RF does publicly and for the upkeep of places like Buckingham Palace (which is owned by the state, not the king, and is an office more than a residence). Everything else they have comes from their private fortunes (which are large but not enormous). It's the security that costs us individually £1.50 a year. Seems a bargain, much cheaper than M. Macron or Mr Biden.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 18/07/2024 22:31

It would never happen... but I'd love to see what would happen in our local school if it suddenly had to educate the royal children...

I wonder if the toilets would still be trashed daily? If the classroom trashers would be tackled (literally)? Or maybe the 70% of the school that's been closed since September 2023 due to RAAC/asbestos would be miraculously rebuilt and opened up again?

I don't begrudge anyone anything... but my god the state of state education is a disgrace in this country. It's grossly unfair how many, many kids just don't stand a chance of getting a good education.

JustAnotherDadOf2 · 18/07/2024 22:30

Why? What point are you actually trying to make here? If youre in favour of abolishing the royals, then just say so, and I'm with you. But what does this actually accomplish?

PoliteCritic · 18/07/2024 22:13

@Bazinga007 that is a horrible way to talk about a real person.
It is true that the academic achievements of the Royal family members tend to be low. But you reveal what you really think of people with low educational achievement with what you say.

Bazinga007 · 18/07/2024 22:01

Well private school didn't do Harry any good did it, he's as thick as shit.

BMW6 · 18/07/2024 21:44

Even if the RF were abolished and we became a a Republic there will ALWAYS be people who can afford private education - in a school or in the home.

As I pointed out upthread, what can you do about the inequality? Ban Public Schools? Ban private tuition? Ban parents home educating?

How can you "level the playing field" without becoming Tyrannical??

Lovely13 · 18/07/2024 21:43

cupcaske123 · 17/07/2024 15:52

What about a democratically elected head of state?

In 2019, you’d likely have had boris Johnson as our head of state. In 1997, post Diana’s death, it would have been Earl Spencer. Both loved in the moment by British public. Our creaky out-dated method is mothy, but tested.

wordler · 18/07/2024 21:40

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 18/07/2024 21:26

You'll need to start a revolution then. Even if this country was given a vote( never going to happen), when it came to putting a cross in a box to abolish the monarchy, the majority of people would decide to keep them.

Well, we are a democracy so we do have to wait until the majority want change.

But to get the government to even propose a vote you'd have to have a party who are prepared to follow through on a very costly and lengthy process to convert our current parliamentary system to a different one. The role of the Crown is woven through so many parts of British life that it will take an army of committees and millions of pounds to convert the system.

Bonus is that once it's done it's done but it would be the work of years, maybe decades to fully convert to a Republic - making Brexit look like child's play.

So until it's an incredibly popular choice with a big majority of the public, no one is going to have the stomach for it.

PoliteCritic · 18/07/2024 21:36

The Royal Family will not be abolished yet, but it is coming. Probably after Anne and Charles die and Queen Elizabeth starts to feel like history. William shows no signs of wanting to do any work beyond football matches, mixing with celebrities and attending film premiers. It will reach a point where most people support their abolishment.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 18/07/2024 21:35

I suspect people will just become more and more apathetic about them, and theyll just limp along with no one taking any notice. I don't think William looks like he's someone who will put the work in unless he absolutely has to.

twinmum2007 · 18/07/2024 21:34

Precipice · 17/07/2024 15:47

There shouldn't be "royal" children at all. The UK should become a democracy.

It is a democracy. What you mean is a Republic, with an elected head of state. Who would you choose?

cupcaske123 · 18/07/2024 21:32

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 18/07/2024 21:26

You'll need to start a revolution then. Even if this country was given a vote( never going to happen), when it came to putting a cross in a box to abolish the monarchy, the majority of people would decide to keep them.

It's hardly going to need a revolution. The monarchy are very popular with the over 65s and least popular with young adults. How are you so sure we won't have a referendum?

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 18/07/2024 21:26

cardibach · 18/07/2024 21:09

Well quite. Let’s stop that.

You'll need to start a revolution then. Even if this country was given a vote( never going to happen), when it came to putting a cross in a box to abolish the monarchy, the majority of people would decide to keep them.

cookiebee · 18/07/2024 21:23

Precipice · 17/07/2024 15:47

There shouldn't be "royal" children at all. The UK should become a democracy.

I completely agree with you, but humans always find ways of forming some sort of hierarchy, so there would, I don’t know, be the presidents children, who would take the place of the former royal children. Or the rich would see their children as more important than us ragamuffins who come from nowhere. It just goes on and on doesn’t it. I for one would love to see titles like ‘Lord’ and ‘Lady’ scrapped for a start, it automatically fills them with importance over everyone, I just don’t get how anyone should be perceived as more important because of a made up birthright!

cardibach · 18/07/2024 21:09

LochKatrine · 18/07/2024 20:07

Not if you've left and want no part of it, and spend your life being critical. Anyway. I can't be doing with them. Nothing will stop that level of entitlement unless you stop people having silly titles and making money from them.

Well quite. Let’s stop that.

Gogogo12345 · 18/07/2024 20:39

BMW6 · 18/07/2024 20:20

I think it was the late Queens children who were first to attend schools?

Maybe. Believe the king went to Gordon something in Scotland. But I don't think the late queen and princess Margaret attended school

Undertherainbow00 · 18/07/2024 20:21

TeenToTwenties · 17/07/2024 15:46

Security for them in a state school could be a nightmare.

In other European countries, Royal children attend state schools. Follow their security planning as an example. Maybe the ‘trickle down effect’ would happen and state schools might actually start getting adequate funding… I’m sure if little George came home saying the school had run out of glue sticks, white board pens and their were no resources for his art lesson - maybe things would start to change. What would Princess Catherine have to say when she heard that the Reception class had been covered by a TA for weeks?
Come on low tax for rich is supposed to trickle down to us poor folk and improve our financial outcomes. Low education standards for the rich and all kids get a good education… Is that how it works????

CruCru · 18/07/2024 20:21

Britsfivk · 17/07/2024 19:28

The British public don't own those children - their parents get to decide where they go to school and they'd rather shit in their hands and clap than send them state!

I was going to say something like this. The Royal family are Royal but they are also a private family. They have to have some areas of their lives where they make decisions for the good of their children, rather than based on how they are perceived by the public.

BMW6 · 18/07/2024 20:20

I think it was the late Queens children who were first to attend schools?

coupdetonnerre · 18/07/2024 20:19

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Gogogo12345 · 18/07/2024 20:14

I think it's only fairly recent overall that Royal children attended school rather than home tutored

Oldster1933 · 18/07/2024 20:12

Look where all the labour MP and Peers send their children.We all want the best for our kids.
Improve the worst schools do not destroy the best.

PoliteCritic · 18/07/2024 20:10

LochKatrine · 18/07/2024 20:08

Yes.

I agree.

LochKatrine · 18/07/2024 20:09

I'd add that if you get the massive wedding then decide that you didn't want the gig after all, we should get a refund.

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